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JB400 · October 01, 2012, 07:52:31 AM

Don't know if anyone else follows F! or not. Found out Lewis Hamilton is leaving McLaren AMG and is going to replace Michael Schumacher in the Mercedes. Personally, I find it stupid. Why in the heck would you want to leave a 1st rate team? He's had 20 wins in less than 3 years. Whatever makes him happy I guess.

Ghoste · October 01, 2012, 07:58:34 AM

Money?

JB400 · October 01, 2012, 02:43:00 PM

Quote from: Ghoste on October 01, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
Money?

I think there was a mention that he wanted to develop himself off the track as a brand. Kinda like Michael Jordon has done with himself.

Ghoste · October 01, 2012, 02:45:23 PM

That was pretty much what I was thinking.

Ponch ® · October 01, 2012, 05:13:27 PM

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 01, 2012, 07:52:31 AM
Why in the heck would you want to leave a 1st rate team?

because F1 dominance is cyclical. Today's first team is next year's mid-packer. Just look at the past 5 years or so - pretty much a different team dominates every year: Ferrari, Renaul, McLaren, Sauber, Red Bull, and so on. He might as well play the odds and take the money.

aussiemuscle · October 01, 2012, 08:05:05 PM

given m.shoey is in 12 position, mercedes are looking for a better driver. Also mclaren are not the top team atm, it's red bull

http://www.formula1.com/results/team/

JB400 · October 02, 2012, 12:03:02 AM

Schumacher should have stayed retired. Comebacks rarely don't work out to well.

Ghoste · October 02, 2012, 05:40:45 AM

Superstardom is one of the toughest drugs to kick though.

JB400 · October 02, 2012, 01:23:39 PM

Quote from: Ghoste on October 02, 2012, 05:40:45 AM
Superstardom is one of the toughest drugs to kick though.

The guy could have done a few limited edition Ferraris and made a buck or two. I hear Ferrari test drivers make more than $1.95.

Ghoste · October 02, 2012, 05:20:24 PM

It's not so much about the money as the adulation and the feeling of being the biggest badass on the block.

JB400 · October 02, 2012, 05:25:49 PM

Quote from: Ghoste on October 02, 2012, 05:20:24 PM
It's not so much about the money as the adulation and the feeling of being the biggest badass on the block.

He retired at his peek. He was the biggest badass. Like I meant to say, he could have been a test driver for Ferrari and still had it easy for the rest of his life. There is rumor he might go back, replacing Masa.
Hamilton should have stayed with McLaren. He was getting close to being as big as Shumacher. Best of luck to him at Mercedes.

Ghoste · October 02, 2012, 06:02:23 PM

Yes, he could have but its not the same as standing on the podium and having everyone cheer you like a rock star and the worlds hottest women throwing themselves at and all of your peers resenting their second place-ness. Its why boxers try one more fight, rock bands reunite in their 50's, hockey players lace up in their late 30's. The list goes on and on. It isn't about the money or taking it easy or having it made, it's about being a celebrity.

JB400 · October 03, 2012, 12:24:06 AM

I think the proper term is reliving the "glory" days.

Fred · October 03, 2012, 12:50:56 AM

Exactly. It's an addiction. Once you've had a dose of it it's hard to break free. It feeds your ego and I think he's like all the rest of them, is pretty big.

JB400 · October 03, 2012, 01:50:24 AM

Here comes the problem of reliving the glory days. If you aren't as good as you were, you become a decrepid old hasbeen. And this part of your career tarnishes all of the accomplishments of your career. I think it is actually better to quit while you are at your peak. Then, you can get a side career that relates to your old career. Every once and awhile, get back in to make an appearance, and get the old thrill. Do that, and your still at your peak. No one is going to criticize you if you don't succeed at your old career.
I feel the same way about staying in it too long. If you stay in too long and don't live up to the younger you, you'll tarnish your career. It will be that way until you quit, and go to a side career. Look at Richard Petty and Darrell Waltrip. Once they both got over their peaks, they went downhill. It wasn't until Petty became car owner and Darrell became broadcaster, that they became stars again.
Schumacher should have stayed retired. Became a test driver or broadcaster. This Mercedes ride was a joke to his career. Hopefully, he'll see that soon before it's too late.

Fred · October 03, 2012, 02:18:33 AM

I completely agree. He retired on a high and I remember thinking how clever he was to do so and that he would always be held in high esteem.
And then he spoilt it all. And now he's just another hasbeen.

JB400 · October 07, 2012, 03:32:37 PM

Well, Schumacher is hanging up his helmet again. We'll see how long that lasts. Glad to see Massa do better this weekend. About time Ferrari rallies around him and puts him back in contention. Nothing wrong with Alonso, but Ferrari has been playing favorites ever since Massa got back in the car.

Ghoste · October 07, 2012, 03:57:31 PM

Ferrari has always done that.

JB400 · October 07, 2012, 04:10:22 PM

I know, if they'd concentrate on both cars, they could be up there with Mclaren and Red Bull. It's always which driver is doing better that gets the attention.

I'm curious as to what they have going on next year. They're shutting down their windtunnel for "calibration". They have something up their sleeves.

Ghoste · October 07, 2012, 04:22:53 PM

I rarely try to armchair their decisions. I don't always understand what they are up to but over the course of their existence, their track record has come to pretty much speak for itself.

JB400 · October 07, 2012, 04:30:21 PM

Whatever works, works. No sense in arguing with success, no matter how they do it.

Ghoste · October 07, 2012, 04:35:32 PM

Truth be told, in spite of the number of unbelievable Ferraris that I encounter in the course of a year, I still find it a little satisfying when the powerhouse is knocked down at the track. They always seem to come back but its good for the series to have other teams kick their ass once in a while.

JB400 · October 07, 2012, 04:41:56 PM

Yeah, for quite a while, they dominated. Then McLaren stepped up, and now Red Bull has done so as well the last 2 years. I still route for Ferrari. More for Massa than anything.

JB400 · October 14, 2012, 02:41:58 AM

Well, Red Bull one two. I think Massa could have got up there if Ferarri would have let him pass Alonso.

Fred · October 14, 2012, 02:46:32 AM

Just saw it live. Good win.

JB400 · October 14, 2012, 02:56:01 AM

Yeah, Vettel scored #4 of the season.

Fred · October 14, 2012, 02:59:57 AM

And that makes him the championship leader.

JB400 · October 14, 2012, 03:04:02 AM

Quote from: Fred on October 14, 2012, 02:59:57 AM
And that makes him the championship leader.

Unfortunately

Marck · October 14, 2012, 03:07:31 AM

I'm a selfdeclared Vettel fan, so todays result is more than welcome with me..

It will be very interesting to see what the teams will look like in the 2013 season with the drivers changing teams.. Notning will change here though, we will be cheering for Redbull and Vettel in particular..

JB400 · October 14, 2012, 03:10:23 AM

Sorry, I favor Ferarri. Massa in particular. I was hoping he could get up there and challenge Red Bull a little bit. Damn team orders. Should have just let him chase them down.
Nothing wrong with Red Bull.

for them. At least it wasn't Hamilton.

Marck · October 14, 2012, 03:24:56 AM

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 14, 2012, 03:10:23 AM
Sorry, I favor Ferarri. Massa in particular. I was hoping he could get up there and challenge Red Bull a little bit. Damn team orders. Should have just let him chase them down.
Nothing wrong with Red Bull. for them. At least it wasn't Hamilton.

I get what you're saying.. Massa seems to be a very nice person, and has struggled hard since he took that spring to his helmet a couple of years ago.. I'm more than happy to see him comming around again and taking som points in the championship..
On the other hand I'm no fan of Alonso, Hamilton or Schumacher..

JB400 · October 14, 2012, 03:26:45 AM

Too bad Kimi Reikenen wasn't able to get back on with Ferarri. He done pretty good until he went Rally.

Fred · October 14, 2012, 03:57:16 AM

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 14, 2012, 03:26:45 AM
Too bad Kimi Reikenen wasn't able to get back on with Ferarri. He done pretty good until he went Rally.

Until he got involved with Dannii Minogue you mean.

JB400 · October 14, 2012, 03:59:48 AM

Quote from: Fred on October 14, 2012, 03:57:16 AM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 14, 2012, 03:26:45 AM
Too bad Kimi Reikenen wasn't able to get back on with Ferarri. He done pretty good until he went Rally.

Until he got involved with Dannii Minogue you mean.

He quit Ferrari and went to the Ralleye cars. Everytime I saw him, he ended up on his head. After 2 years, he went back to F1

Fred · October 14, 2012, 04:05:00 AM

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 14, 2012, 03:59:48 AM
Quote from: Fred on October 14, 2012, 03:57:16 AM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on October 14, 2012, 03:26:45 AM
Too bad Kimi Reikenen wasn't able to get back on with Ferarri. He done pretty good until he went Rally.

Until he got involved with Dannii Minogue you mean.
He quit Ferrari and went to the Ralleye cars. Everytime I saw him, he ended up on his head. After 2 years, he went back to F1

He woke up to himself

JB400 · October 21, 2012, 10:53:11 AM

Glad to hear Ferrari give Massa another year. I guess the last few weeks were the deciding factor.

JB400 · November 04, 2012, 12:14:11 PM

Was the race today any good? I didn't get to watch it. I did here that Kimi won.

Too bad Lotus is going in debt just to win though.

JB400 · November 12, 2012, 12:31:50 PM

Anyone going to the Gran Prix of the Americas at the new Texas track?

JB400 · November 18, 2012, 06:21:08 PM

How was the race at Texas? Didn't get to watch it. Didn't get to watch Nascar either. I did hear the Texas race was full of passing and Hamilton won

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