Charger Prices

[Matthan]

Is it just me or have 1969 Dodge Charger prices increased in the last year.

[F8-4life]

The better question is, when are prices ever decreasing?

[Matthan]

Yeah I know.....it just seems they have been higher than last few years.

[41husk]

I think it has been a buyers market in this economy   What are some examples that make you feel prices are increasing.

[twodko]

The last few years were indeed a buyers market.....not for the last 18 months or so. Prices are going up especially for 1969's. If its a numbers matching R/T they are commanding uber dollars most notably in the dry western states. 

[bakerhillpins]

I think it's still a buyers market and will be for a few more years. However every once in a while a car hits Ebag and goes for money that I can't rationally explain.   Then again, I don't know that they actually sold. I suppose it might be the result of the car being local to the right set of folks.

There certainly aren't the bidding wars on junk like there used to be. They are still asking stupid money (which might have prompted the question) but not getting it.

[bakerhillpins]

The last few years were indeed a buyers market.....not for the last 18 months or so. Prices are going up especially for 1969's. If its a numbers matching R/T they are commanding uber dollars most notably in the dry western states. 

Really?  I guess I don't see that.     Some seemingly nice RTs on ebag that just sit and rot when non #s clones bid up to close to the same cost???

[41husk]

My clone is made from a real 69 RT/SE, so with a wing, nose cone, and window plug 75K easy

[JB400]

Well, Chargers have been hitting the silver screen more in the last decade. 

[twodko]

As I mentioned, geography has a lot to do with how these cars are priced. Original western cars sell for more because they have lived thier lives in a dry climate and tend not to be rust buckets or 10 foot cars hiding nasty rot. Cars is much wetter climes don't sell for the same money because they usually require far more extensive repairs/restoration due to salted road etc.....IMO

[Ghoste]

If this was a Road Runner forum we'd think Road Runners were crazy priced, if it was a Mustang forum we'd say Mustangs were insanely high priced and if this was the collector car sellers forum we'd talk about prices being in the dumpster.

[jasonspragg]

look up NADA classic cars and put in the information about the (your) car and you will get your price ranges. For instance my car for sale is 1969 charger with a 440 and the original 318 and comes to high retail around 55k but only selling mine for 32k which is reasonable because it is all but frame off restoration and I have looked underneath and there is very minimal rust if any at all and all original

[skip68]

There should be no rust on a $32k car unless it's a hemi or Daytona car.   

[skip68]

It is a buyers market still but prices are going up.   Five years from now (if the market goes back) we'll be wishing we could buy a nice car for $32k.  I remember several years ago when it peaked before the crash cars were going for crazy money.   You couldn't find a nice running driving car for under $25k that didn't need work.   

[Fred]

The better question is, when are prices ever decreasing?

The day the gas runs out and we all have to stop driving.

[twodko]

I have contingency plans......

Waist stripe on my wheel barrow.....

Hood turn signal on the bicycle's front fender and R/T badges on each side of the rear fender......

Hemi emblems on each side of my beer cooler!

I won't go quietly. 

[Ghoste]

NADA (or any price guide) are one of the least accurate ways to determine a cars value I can think of.

[Fred]

I have contingency plans......

Waist stripe on my wheel barrow.....

Hood turn signal on the bicycle's front fender and R/T badges on each side of the rear fender......

Hemi emblems on each side of my beer cooler!

I won't go quietly. 

  I'm sticking my badges and stripes on my chain saw for the simple reason that it's noisy and I'm also attaching a handle long enough to accommodate me and the mrs.

[cdr]

I have contingency plans......

Waist stripe on my wheel barrow.....

Hood turn signal on the bicycle's front fender and R/T badges on each side of the rear fender......

Hemi emblems on each side of my beer cooler!

I won't go quietly. 

[stripedelete]

NADA (or any price guide) are one of the least accurate ways to determine a cars value I can think of.

X 1000 

[1974dodgecharger]

they will jump even more with the new fast and furious 6 coming out next year...you better get one and flip it for the movie.....

[hawkeye]

i don't claim to be an expert on pricing, but as someone who was looking for a 68, 69 or 70 charger for several years, i can't recall anything less than 25k that looked like it was worth taking home.  very few bargains out there.  when i did buy my 70, the seller had 4 more prospective buyers scheduled that afternoon.  guess your outlook depends entirely on if you are buying or selling.

[69charger2002]

NADA is extemely unrealistic. i remember in 2008 my triple black fully restored 70 R/T SE numbers matching charger was showing high retail at $107k.. yeah ok that was realistic. i sold it in 2010 after 2 times on ebay.. overseas.. for $32k. was lucky to get that. it even had working ac and disc brakes..

[1974dodgecharger]

NADA (or any price guide) are one of the least accurate ways to determine a cars value I can think of.

then people resort to the craig barrett jackson auctions 

[1974dodgecharger]

i don't claim to be an expert on pricing, but as someone who was looking for a 68, 69 or 70 charger for several years, i can't recall anything less than 25k that looked like it was worth taking home.  very few bargains out there.  when i did buy my 70, the seller had 4 more prospective buyers scheduled that afternoon.  guess your outlook depends entirely on if you are buying or selling.

you must be looking only on Ebag then alot of forum members have gotten really nice 2nd gens for 25k....you need to do some searches on here. We DC members scour the craigslist ads and go far and wide for the best deal. I would rather pay 25k for a nicely done up 2nd gen vs go on Ebag and try to convince a seller his 50k or 75k rust bucket is not worth what he is asking for.

[Cooter]

IMO, alot of it has to do with the new repop metal that is out there for these cars. Look at the 69' Camaro. Those cars ALWAYS bring money because people can buy the panels/parts. Well, same can be said for the second gen Charger now. Before AMD, you had to patch  panels, repair metal, and do things the hard way..Today, you just need a good credit Card balance.

[cdr]

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1969 Dodge Charger
2 Door Hardtop (318)

Pricing
   Original
MSRP    Low
Retail    Average
Retail    High
Retail
    $3,126    $8,600    $16,100    $27,100
Options: (add options)
ADD-440/375 HP V8 ENG         35%    35%    35%
ADD-FACTORY AIR CONDITIONING         5%    5%    5%
TOTAL PRICE    $3,126    $12,040    $22,540    $37,940




A CONVERTED FROM 318 TO A 440,AVERAGE PRICE 22,540,LOOKS ABOUT RIGHT TO ME

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1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2 Door Hardtop (440)

Pricing
   Original
MSRP    Low
Retail    Average
Retail    High
Retail
    $3,592    $17,200    $28,600    $52,000
Options: (add options)
ADD-FACTORY AIR CONDITIONING         5%    5%    5%
TOTAL PRICE    $3,592    $18,060    $30,030    $54,600




THE AVERAGE PRICE ON NADA LOOKS ABOUT right to me a 69 R/T 30,000

[Dino]

I have an R/T clone (originally 318/904 white hat special), all hardware plus stripe minus badges.  Cop drivetrain, bigger brakes, bigger sway bar, extra leaf, the works.  Power steering and brakes, a/c, light package.  It has small bubbling behind the wheels, rear valance was hit and covered in bondo and the trunk floor will eventually need to be replaced although it'll last for quite a bit more time.  Interior is original aka worn out although the headliner, dash pads and door panels are still very nice.  I just received my fourth offer this season and had three offers last year.  All offered $25K, the last went up to $28.

Guidelines are nice but these offers are more than what they go for these days.  Why?  maybe because these people see my car run several days a week and never see it on the side of the road with the hood open.  I don't know.  the last guy that offered actually lives in my sub so he knows my car.  He has a mint 67 Camaro and he said he'd sell it today if he can buy mine.  I had to decline but it's nice to know that I can sell it in a pinch if I had to.

[Iron Chef]

Wneh I bought my 3rd Gen Super Bee a few years ago, I paid $21K which I thought was a fair price for what it was and the condition it was in.  Now, when I bought my '70 Challenger R/T I paid $65K.  I still think I did well on that one because it was a truly rust-free California car (spent its entire life in the high-desert above LA in a garage), numbers matching, original body panels that were never hit, and loaded with a 440 Magnum, A/C, PS, PB, PW, light monitoring, etc.

It's all about what kind of car it is, how it's equipped and the condition it's in.  And then there's how badly someone wants it.

[41husk]

Wneh I bought my 3rd Gen Super Bee a few years ago, I paid $21K which I thought was a fair price for what it was and the condition it was in.  Now, when I bought my '70 Challenger R/T I paid $65K.  I still think I did well on that one because it was a truly rust-free California car (spent its entire life in the high-desert above LA in a garage), numbers matching, original body panels that were never hit, and loaded with a 440 Magnum, A/C, PS, PB, PW, light monitoring, etc.

It's all about what kind of car it is, how it's equipped and the condition it's in.  And then there's how badly someone wants it.

It all comes down to weather you feel good about the deal.

[JB400]

Wneh I bought my 3rd Gen Super Bee a few years ago, I paid $21K which I thought was a fair price for what it was and the condition it was in.  Now, when I bought my '70 Challenger R/T I paid $65K.  I still think I did well on that one because it was a truly rust-free California car (spent its entire life in the high-desert above LA in a garage), numbers matching, original body panels that were never hit, and loaded with a 440 Magnum, A/C, PS, PB, PW, light monitoring, etc.

It's all about what kind of car it is, how it's equipped and the condition it's in.  And then there's how badly someone wants it.

It all comes down to weather you feel good about the deal.

After coughing up 65k, I'd feel under the weather.

[1974dodgecharger]

same here.....

Wneh I bought my 3rd Gen Super Bee a few years ago, I paid $21K which I thought was a fair price for what it was and the condition it was in.  Now, when I bought my '70 Challenger R/T I paid $65K.  I still think I did well on that one because it was a truly rust-free California car (spent its entire life in the high-desert above LA in a garage), numbers matching, original body panels that were never hit, and loaded with a 440 Magnum, A/C, PS, PB, PW, light monitoring, etc.

It's all about what kind of car it is, how it's equipped and the condition it's in.  And then there's how badly someone wants it.

It all comes down to weather you feel good about the deal.

After coughing up 65k, I'd feel under the weather.

[Fred]

Wneh I bought my 3rd Gen Super Bee a few years ago, I paid $21K which I thought was a fair price for what it was and the condition it was in.  Now, when I bought my '70 Challenger R/T I paid $65K.  I still think I did well on that one because it was a truly rust-free California car (spent its entire life in the high-desert above LA in a garage), numbers matching, original body panels that were never hit, and loaded with a 440 Magnum, A/C, PS, PB, PW, light monitoring, etc.

It's all about what kind of car it is, how it's equipped and the condition it's in.  And then there's how badly someone wants it.

It all comes down to weather you feel good about the deal.

That's exactly right.  If it's going to leave you with a smile on your face... go for it.

[41husk]

Wneh I bought my 3rd Gen Super Bee a few years ago, I paid $21K which I thought was a fair price for what it was and the condition it was in.  Now, when I bought my '70 Challenger R/T I paid $65K.  I still think I did well on that one because it was a truly rust-free California car (spent its entire life in the high-desert above LA in a garage), numbers matching, original body panels that were never hit, and loaded with a 440 Magnum, A/C, PS, PB, PW, light monitoring, etc.

It's all about what kind of car it is, how it's equipped and the condition it's in.  And then there's how badly someone wants it.

It all comes down to weather you feel good about the deal.

That's exactly right.  If it's going to leave you with a smile on your face... go for it.

I keep telling my wife that in more things than buying cars and she just aint having it

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

I think it has been a buyers market in this economy   What are some examples that make you feel prices are increasing.

agreed.

[1974dodgecharger]

big difference between talk and actual transaction.....I had a guy the other day offer me 36k for my old land cruiser its a 77 he said its rare to have 4 disc brakes and most valuable. 

I have an R/T clone (originally 318/904 white hat special), all hardware plus stripe minus badges.  Cop drivetrain, bigger brakes, bigger sway bar, extra leaf, the works.  Power steering and brakes, a/c, light package.  It has small bubbling behind the wheels, rear valance was hit and covered in bondo and the trunk floor will eventually need to be replaced although it'll last for quite a bit more time.  Interior is original aka worn out although the headliner, dash pads and door panels are still very nice.  I just received my fourth offer this season and had three offers last year.  All offered $25K, the last went up to $28.

Guidelines are nice but these offers are more than what they go for these days.  Why?  maybe because these people see my car run several days a week and never see it on the side of the road with the hood open.  I don't know.  the last guy that offered actually lives in my sub so he knows my car.  He has a mint 67 Camaro and he said he'd sell it today if he can buy mine.  I had to decline but it's nice to know that I can sell it in a pinch if I had to.

[Dino]

big difference between talk and actual transaction.....I had a guy the other day offer me 36k for my old land cruiser its a 77 he said its rare to have 4 disc brakes and most valuable. 

I have an R/T clone (originally 318/904 white hat special), all hardware plus stripe minus badges.  Cop drivetrain, bigger brakes, bigger sway bar, extra leaf, the works.  Power steering and brakes, a/c, light package.  It has small bubbling behind the wheels, rear valance was hit and covered in bondo and the trunk floor will eventually need to be replaced although it'll last for quite a bit more time.  Interior is original aka worn out although the headliner, dash pads and door panels are still very nice.  I just received my fourth offer this season and had three offers last year.  All offered $25K, the last went up to $28.

Guidelines are nice but these offers are more than what they go for these days.  Why?  maybe because these people see my car run several days a week and never see it on the side of the road with the hood open.  I don't know.  the last guy that offered actually lives in my sub so he knows my car.  He has a mint 67 Camaro and he said he'd sell it today if he can buy mine.  I had to decline but it's nice to know that I can sell it in a pinch if I had to.

Definitely but that's not the point.  Why are these people offering roughly the same amount?  It's academic if they actually would show up with cash but it's peculiar that this is the number these people come up with.

It's not going anywhere, this car would only be sold if some tragedy happened and I needed the money.

[1974dodgecharger]

As you know we as a society LOVE TO TALK....hence when no actual cash is involved we just talk...

thats why alot of forum members who sell their cars say, "please no talking about your history about the charger' etc....BRING CASH!

[1970Moparmann]

NADA (or any price guide) are one of the least accurate ways to determine a cars value I can think of.

Agree!

What I have seen are restoration projects seem to be commanding more money- especially if clean.

[Mopar Nut]

Found this site the other day, shows the value.

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch

[1970Moparmann]

Found this site the other day, shows the value.

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch

In looking at a couple of cars, it's high by at least 15 - 20%.   

[Mopar Nut]

Found this site the other day, shows the value.

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch

In looking at a couple of cars, it's high by at least 15 - 20%.   

This is an insurance company, so they must balloon the value to get more money out of their customers.

[41husk]

Not an insurance Co.

[Mopar Nut]

Not an insurance Co.

Click on the insurance or home tab, shows this.
Hagerty Collector Car Insurance
At Hagerty, we provide specialty insurance for more classic cars than anyone else in the world.

[41husk]

I used to have Hagerty   No matter how many classics they insure, they still make a real good proffit

[1974dodgecharger]

but but but my incuranse company loves me I been with them over 20 years, I know the salesman, he would never ever ever lie to me..NO WAY 

Found this site the other day, shows the value.

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch

In looking at a couple of cars, it's high by at least 15 - 20%.   

This is an insurance company, so they must balloon the value to get more money out of their customers.

[41husk]

 

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Most Charger prices are still inflated.  The one car a fella wanted me to pay mid-20s for his rusted junk, sold at an estate sale for 1/2 that ammt. once he died. 

Also, most cars are at least ONE condition greater than reality. Excellent cars, seldom are... 

[Mopar Nut]

but but but my incuranse company loves me I been with them over 20 years, I know the salesman, he would never ever ever lie to me..NO WAY  

Found this site the other day, shows the value.

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch

In looking at a couple of cars, it's high by at least 15 - 20%.  

This is an insurance company, so they must balloon the value to get more money out of their customers.

What is a incuranse company, of course they will love you, sounds like you need the loving.

[Iron Chef]

Wneh I bought my 3rd Gen Super Bee a few years ago, I paid $21K which I thought was a fair price for what it was and the condition it was in.  Now, when I bought my '70 Challenger R/T I paid $65K.  I still think I did well on that one because it was a truly rust-free California car (spent its entire life in the high-desert above LA in a garage), numbers matching, original body panels that were never hit, and loaded with a 440 Magnum, A/C, PS, PB, PW, light monitoring, etc.

It's all about what kind of car it is, how it's equipped and the condition it's in.  And then there's how badly someone wants it.

It all comes down to weather you feel good about the deal.

After coughing up 65k, I'd feel under the weather.

I didn't cough up anything, nor did I feel badly about it.  There wasn't a second of buyer's remorse.  I've been buying and selling collector cars for many years and after doing some homework, it was the right deal for me.  To this point, I've been made two cash offers for more than I paid for the Challenger, so I must have been right.

If one can't afford to make a purchase, they shouldn't.  Unfortunately, that's not how a lot of people do things and they overextend themselves, leading to them feeling as though they made a mistake.

[1970Moparmann]

If one can't afford to make a purchase, they shouldn't.  Unfortunately, that's not how a lot of people do things and they overextend themselves, leading to them feeling as though they made a mistake.

Your absolutely right!

[JB400]

I'm going to clarify my statement in case you got rubbed the wrong way.  My statement was more of a joke at the previous statement than anything that you posted.  Please notice the word weather.  It was supposed to read whether.  It was a just a joke.  Sorry if I ruffled some feathers.  But, your 110% correct on your statement.

[41husk]

I agree, and even though I could afford the car, I have had buyers remource in the past, but much more often have suffered sellers regret.  I love many different mopars and have found it is much easier to make a purchase my own, than let go of the cars I have done the way I wanted.

[six-tee-nine]

It is a buyers market still but prices are going up.   Five years from now (if the market goes back) we'll be wishing we could buy a nice car for $32k.  I remember several years ago when it peaked before the crash cars were going for crazy money.   You couldn't find a nice running driving car for under $25k that didn't need work.   

I bought my 69 r/t restoration project in 2006. Prices were trough the roof compared to these of today. I could easily have bought a good driver maybe no r/t but anyway... If prices go back to that level i can only advise people to buy now.

[Iron Chef]

I'm going to clarify my statement in case you got rubbed the wrong way.  My statement was more of a joke at the previous statement than anything that you posted.  Please notice the word weather.  It was supposed to read whether.  It was a just a joke.  Sorry if I ruffled some feathers.  But, your 110% correct on your statement.

Nope...didn't take it the wrong way.  I was just expanding on the fact that I felt I made a solid purchase.  This doesn't happen all the time.  No worries.