PLAYBOY DAYTONA

[dayclona]

Yeah, I'm pretty certain it says Michigan in the center, as Ghoste mentioned.



It would be interesting to know which Dealer it was registered to though...

      You didn't know?............it was "WALTER MELON" motors............home of select cars, a  Chrysler, Dodge,  and Plymouth authorized dealer!.............thought all you guys read MCG      



Mike G/ DAYCLONA

[Ghoste]

A subscriber yes, a good memory, no. 

From that assigned dealer number, was it ever determined which dealer in Motown held that plate?

[G-Series]

No, I contacted the archive dept of the MI DMV and "he" said they dump the records every three....3.......years    So I guess it's Walter Melon Dodge from now on.......

[Ghoste]

Could be true, but somebody somewhere remembers.  I'm sure you've exhausted all the practical leads when you were researching the car but somebody outside the normal reach knows.

[69_500]

I didn't get around to watching the Bud Lindeman tape today, was busy playing with my son at Chuck E Cheese all afternoon. NOw I'm too tired to do it. I'll do it tomorrow but I think it was the same plate number.

[chargermad890]

i recently heard that this car, the playboy car was wrecked at boneville quite a few years ago, and now is supposedly the reamains of it are in a junkyard in utah

[Wingnut426]

Okay, here we go. I still have my "Playboy" Daytona. I did NOT sell it to buy my Hemi Superbird.  According to records kept by the Daytona/Superbird Auto Club, there were 34 F6 Bright Green Daytonas built, only 3 had green interior. Of the 3, 2 had black wings and one had white. Rusty Cummings owned the 2 with black wings, he said both cars had fender scoops. I put scoops on my Daytona in 1984 but never cut the holes in the fenders. The Playboy pic was shot at the University of Wisconson. I don't believe the plate is a dealer plate, probably a plate that Chrysler Corp. used to drive their cars.  My car was sold through a dealership in Kansas City Mo.
Hope this clarifies a few things. Pete Veight

[Ghoste]

Cool, that helps a bunch.

Does this mean you didn't wreck it at Bonneville?

[69_500]

Welcome to the site then Pete. Nice to have another wing car nut to chime in on a few topics.

[nascarxx29]

Nice to see Pete V on this board he has the 69 daytona convertible .Used all real parts in its construction .As did Gary Lazar did on his 426 superbird convertible.

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

got any pics of that superbird vert?-MATT

[nascarxx29]

I will have to Look it was in some magazines for it to scan .Gary Lazar used to own the green 69 daytona of wingnuts

[mustanghater]

I think the first 2 letters are DA on the plate

[nascarxx29]

The daytona of wingnuts is on the daytona list as car # 372 .Shows also as being prior owned by Gary Lazar New City NY

[maxwellwedge]

You do make a good point there ghoste .With your half kiding reply.Wonder if you knew Dan Gurney was cut and pasted back on Jan Motor Trend cover.Where hes shown sitting on a orange superbird .He originally sat on a 69 green daytona.Might have been that playboy car .Who knows it may have been used for Chrysler publicity purposes.As this daytona is green with white stripe

Hey Guys - What Issue of Motor Trend has this pic of Dan on the Daytona wing?

[UFO]

Hey Guys - What Issue of Motor Trend has this pic of Dan on the Daytona wing?
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Best of motor trend 50th anniversary.
Cover pic.

[maxwellwedge]

Thank you!

[BigBlockSam]

Okay, here we go. I still have my "Playboy" Daytona. I did NOT sell it to buy my Hemi Superbird.  According to records kept by the Daytona/Superbird Auto Club, there were 34 F6 Bright Green Daytonas built, only 3 had green interior. Of the 3, 2 had black wings and one had white. Rusty Cummings owned the 2 with black wings, he said both cars had fender scoops. I put scoops on my Daytona in 1984 but never cut the holes in the fenders. The Playboy pic was shot at the University of Wisconson. I don't believe the plate is a dealer plate, probably a plate that Chrysler Corp. used to drive their cars.  My car was sold through a dealership in Kansas City Mo.
Hope this clarifies a few things. Pete Veight

i seen the playboy daytona in wingnut's  garage and it looks great, beautiful machine    but a like his white hemi bird better . outstanding car .  hope all is well Pete  

[nascarxx29]

The playboy daytona was a early car lacking fender scoops and had late 68 early 69 black button door handle push buttons

381546   372   mo      Ray Rixman St Louis, Mo   8/30/1969  515 SPD  J#926590 .

Doesnt appear to me to fit as a early press release magazine exposure car timeline .

Earliest daytona build dates are 427  -612  But the playboy recharging the charger article is Sept 69

[maxwellwedge]

Usually magazine issue dates come out a month or 2 earlier.....does that fit with a timeline?

[hemigeno]

What we still do not know is the order in which cars were converted at Creative Industries - or exactly what happened to them once Creative finished the conversions... were they shipped back to Hamtramck as some documents suggest?  Stored at Creative?

The only reason those questions matter in relationship to this topic is because the possibility exists Dodge Marketing guys could have nabbed a completed car from Creative or whatever storage area and used it for the photo shoot prior to it ever having been shipped to the dealership.  There is no guarantee that because Pete's car is #372 on the shipping list that it was the 372nd car converted - or that its conversion wasn't completed until sometime in August shortly before its ship date.  According to the paperwork I have, conversions were slated to start in mid-June, so it's still plausible that an early-converted (not necessarily early-shipped) car could have been used.  FWIW, 1969 Missouri dealer plates did not have that color scheme (they were black letters on a white background) so any connection to Pete's car would simply mean the photos were taken prior to dealership delivery... certainly possible.

I'm still not 100% sure about the door handle button thing (as in I can't tell for certain what button is in the ad photo).  I'm wondering if the lighting conditions and/or lens filters didn't make it appear black when it's really chrome - but I'm not a good judge.  By the time even the earliest Daytona - 287970 - was made at Hamtramck, most if not all cars came with the chrome buttons.  My January-built Charger had chromies.  The lighting doesn't help much in identifying the interior color either, although it does appear to my untrained eyes to be green rather than black.  

As I mentioned to another interested party just a few weeks ago, I wouldn't lean too heavily on the timeframe to determine which car was or was not used in this ad shoot.  We just don't have (or at least I don't have) enough info of what happened back then to make definitive statements.  Pete's car fits what you can see in the photo, so I personally think it's the best fit - but that's just my opinion which carries no more weight than anyone else's.

[69 DAYTONA]

...many years ago I owned the 1st HEMI Challenger ever built (JS29R0B100015)...it was the Car and Driver road test car in Nov 1969...I was told years ago the magazines usually came out approximately 1 month before the date of the magazine and a there was a  6 week lead time for the articles before that...there was approximately an 8-10 week time span from the written article to the news stand...I would guess the car in Playboy would have been built approximately 1 July or earlier

...my Daytona is a 4-27 build date with a 8-16 ship date from Creative

[nascarxx29]

   

Did a shiplist listed daytona ever leave creative to a dealer designation in this case a dealer in MO. Even if dealer was swapping cars with one and the other .To be built shipped without fender scoops and sent to a dealer?Or use a incompleted car for national photographic exposure.I kinda recall hearing or reading that Dr Hoens F6 daytona was suspected to been missing fender scoops when his car was brand new.But nothing conclusive.On another note isnt Mo a state that has vehicle archives back to day one.
Of all the magazines I collected over the years the playboy daytona appears to be a different plate number from the usual seen one through out other magazine featured daytona But what dealer was it registered to.But with nothing definitive we can only arrive at he conclusion in what happened to the mod top daytona installation .It could have happened but no overwhelming proof on either side
. License plates colors and numbers on other magazine featured daytonas.

[nascarxx29]

Did some photo ehancing the interior appears green .I can still see the black door button no chrome glare

[held1823]

what about the possibility of the car being photographed in a studio, and the background added afterwards? while it's unlikely, there is nothing definitive that states the scene was shot on location, is there?

the shadows from the benches (the couple are running past) fall to the left. the shadow underneath the car is almost too uniform looking, like would be produced by studio lighting coming from multiple directions. for sunlight to cause such uniform and complete shadowing underneath a car, it seems the sun would have to be pretty low on the horizon. which it isn't, judging by the shadows from the benches. and if the sun was high in the sky, how did it cause such complete shadowing behind the rear tires?