Swiss DMV not accepting Superbird wing

[moparstuart]

I've heard that after 1945, the remaining administration from Germany fled to Switzerland, and began working in the DMV.

in missouri also 

[Ghoste]

It had to withstand min. 1200Nm, and had to shear off at max. 2800Nm. I will post the graphic protocols soon. With 3 plastic bolts it withstand about 4000Nm.

What's Nm = Newton Meters?
What's that equate to in to an average human force? 
Is it about the same as a drunken bicyclist not seeing a giant orange car in front if him, slamming into your bumper at 20km/h , and launching him/her self neck first into the wing?? 

1 Nm = 0.737562 lbs ft (poundforce feet)

Ok so max sheer of is 2800Nm = about 2,065 ft/lbs, right?
That seems like an aweful lot of force. More than enought to do some damage to some unsuspecting albeit dunce-headed person throwing him/her self at the wing, no ?

Yeah, wouldn't their feared decapitation take place well below that?

[WINGIN IT]

It had to withstand min. 1200Nm, and had to shear off at max. 2800Nm. I will post the graphic protocols soon. With 3 plastic bolts it withstand about 4000Nm.

What's Nm = Newton Meters?
What's that equate to in to an average human force? 
Is it about the same as a drunken bicyclist not seeing a giant orange car in front if him, slamming into your bumper at 20km/h , and launching him/her self neck first into the wing?? 

1 Nm = 0.737562 lbs ft (poundforce feet)

Ok so max sheer of is 2800Nm = about 2,065 ft/lbs, right?
That seems like an aweful lot of force. More than enought to do some damage to some unsuspecting albeit dunce-headed person throwing him/her self at the wing, no ?

Yeah, wouldn't their feared decapitation take place well below that?

Exactly! 
But not sure exactly how much force that is.

[Dave Kanofsky]

Good job, you fought the law and YOU won !!!

[areibel]

It makes me wonder what forces the wings were exposed to when they were running 200MPH+ at Daytona or Talledega back when?   I'd bet the engineers at Ma Mopar did their homework before bolting a wing on the first Daytonas or Superbirds.

[stripedelete]

It makes me wonder what forces the wings were exposed to when they were running 200MPH+ at Daytona or Talledega back when?   I'd bet the engineers at Ma Mopar did their homework before bolting a wing on the first Daytonas or Superbirds.

Certainly.  It probably went something like: "Hey, toss me a few of those fender washers, would ya?"

[JB400]

I don't think anybody at any manufacturer were thinking about decapitating people with spoilers added to their cars.  Maybe an idea for a "Final Destination" movie or a zombie flick. 

[swissmopar]

It had to withstand min. 1200Nm, and had to shear off at max. 2800Nm. I will post the graphic protocols soon. With 3 plastic bolts it withstand about 4000Nm.

What's Nm = Newton Meters?
What's that equate to in to an average human force? 
Is it about the same as a drunken bicyclist not seeing a giant orange car in front if him, slamming into your bumper at 20km/h , and launching him/her self neck first into the wing?? 

1 Nm = 0.737562 lbs ft (poundforce feet)

Ok so max sheer of is 2800Nm = about 2,065 ft/lbs, right?
That seems like an aweful lot of force. More than enought to do some damage to some unsuspecting albeit dunce-headed person throwing him/her self at the wing, no ?

Right! I will soon publish the testing graph, it sheared off at 2781Nm - (just below 2800Nm) with only two plastic bolts. So you can imagine if you fix the wing with 4 steel bolts as the original this will shear off your rear fenders before you will loose the wing.

Yes be prepared - there will be all over "rolling heads" on the streets of Switzerland, hopefully some of the banker's heads - sorry! hahaha

[charger Downunder]

So they want it designed to fall off.
Has anybody ever been injured by a wing off a Superbird or Daytona.

[Ghoste]

Only if they fell off from sitting on it.

[Hemidog]

Lots of pinched fingers between decklid and wing?

[Ghoste]

And lets not forget the wounded egos of the non wing cars.

[WINGIN IT]

So they want it designed to fall off.
Has anybody ever been injured by a wing off a Superbird or Daytona.

Right, it's designed to "break away" . But my point is that the break away force with the fiberglass wing is still  a lot of force, and would still manage to injure someone, if in fact they impaled themselves on the wing in some freakish way. 

[Ghoste]

The whole thing is just bizarre.  Government nanny interference run amock (sic) but at least it all turned out for the good in the end.

[WINGIN IT]

The whole thing is just bizarre.  Government nanny interference run amock (sic) but at least it all turned out for the good in the end.

Oh indeed. 
Great follow through , not many car enthusiasts would go through all that trouble and hassle.
Kudos to Swiss Mopar for stickin' it out 

[odcics2]

It makes me wonder what forces the wings were exposed to when they were running 200MPH+ at Daytona or Talledega back when?   I'd bet the engineers at Ma Mopar did their homework before bolting a wing on the first Daytonas or Superbirds.

Certainly.  It probably went something like: "Hey, toss me a few of those fender washers, would ya?"

First attempt showed the need for support in the way of the large wing washer. Washer to trunk pan braces were then added.
For race use, that system failed, leading to the aluminum tubes running from inside the wing to the brackets bolted to the trunk pan.  Extra welds and reinforcements are also used. 

[hemi68charger]

Lots of pinched fingers between decklid and wing?

And bumps on the back of your head when you get something out of the trunk.....    I learned rather quickly not to stand straight up when pulling something out of the trunk...

[WINGIN IT]

Lots of pinched fingers between decklid and wing?

And bumps on the back of your head when you get something out of the trunk.....    I learned rather quickly not to stand straight up when pulling something out of the trunk...

Ha, will have to remember that ... DOH ! 

[swissmopar]

It makes me wonder what forces the wings were exposed to when they were running 200MPH+ at Daytona or Talledega back when?   I'd bet the engineers at Ma Mopar did their homework before bolting a wing on the first Daytonas or Superbirds.

Certainly.  It probably went something like: "Hey, toss me a few of those fender washers, would ya?"

First attempt showed the need for support in the way of the large wing washer. Washer to trunk pan braces were then added.
For race use, that system failed, leading to the aluminum tubes running from inside the wing to the brackets bolted to the trunk pan.  Extra welds and reinforcements are also used. 

Are there any pictures available from the race setup of the wing fixation in the trunk?

[swissmopar]

Where is Switzerland are you. My cousin lives in or near St. Galen and can see the Lake of Constance from his house. I am also a Swiss citizen although I have never been there.

I live in Zürich, the biggest City of Switzerland. population appr. 400'000. St. Gallen is 50 mls from Zürich.

[Aero426]

Are there any pictures available from the race setup of the wing fixation in the trunk?

Right side race car wing brace with safety cable.

[Aero426]

Left side wing brace on race car.    Fuel fill and overflow hoses also shown.

[swissmopar]

Are there any pictures available from the race setup of the wing fixation in the trunk?

Right side race car wing brace with safety cable.

Never seen before, thank you so much for the pictures!