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Installing New Fuel Line and Brake Line with Rail Connectors

Started by 4402tuff4u, March 27, 2006, 09:33:07 AM

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4402tuff4u

Wondering if anyone on the board has installed new fuel lines and new brake line running from front to rear feeding the rear brakes after rail connectors were installed on a 1968 Charger R/T. The rail connectors I had installed by my body shop are 2" x 3" steel tubing. There is an approx. 1" space between the floor and the top of the rail. The problem I see is that somehow you have to maneuver this 8' long tube in that space, through a hole on the cross rail and keep in mind that this tube has all sorts of bends on it and can easily kink and also, you don't want to scratch the new paint job!!!  I kick myself for not thinking this out before giving the body guy the go ahead to install them. I should have thought about this before the rail connectors were installed. I have brand new stainless steel lines to install. My body shop guy that builds stretch limos said he always splices lines to make them to proper length and that could be an option for me. I'm not to crazy about splicing brake lines and/or fuel lines - flaring stainless steel might be a problem. Any help and ideas would be appreciated.  :icon_smile_sad: :icon_smile_sad: :icon_smile_angry:

What was I thinking of?!!!! :brickwall: :RantExplode:
"Mother should I trust the government?........... Pink Floyd "Mother"

4402tuff4u

"Mother should I trust the government?........... Pink Floyd "Mother"

Chryco Psycho

I have had problems properly flaring SS lines in the past so that would not be my first choice , care fully massaging the bends & feeding the lines into place is what I would try , or get a bender & start making some new lines

lasvegas69charg

I know this is a old thread but I am in the same situation. I welded subframe connectors without thinking about routing the fuel line. Now I have 5/16" sst fuel line and get around the subframes. I was thinking about cutting and splicing with a piece of rubber fuel line. Any ideas?
69 dodge charger 383/727/3.55 (my dad is the original owner-matching number) stroked to a 496😉

tan top

 what type of frame connectors have you got ?    i bent up copper 3/8" & 1/4" lines  as close to factory as possible  , 
for that very reason , was not sure the factory lines would  be able to fit round the frame connectors &  torque boxes ,
but they did !!
still not got OEM type lines on yet ,  the jury is still out on fitting a electric fuel  pump again  :scratchchin:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

BrianShaughnessy

The uscartool ones I got in Sinnamon have slots cut up front...   I guess I'll find out how difficult this job is when I get around to installing the lines later on.

http://store.uscartool.com/66-70-B-Body-Frame-Connectors_p_13.html

It wasn't really a problem with the MP connectors in Black Betty.
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

bill440rt

Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on August 31, 2012, 06:30:18 AM

It wasn't really a problem with the MP connectors in Black Betty.


I didn't have a problem with mine, either.  :shruggy:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

lasvegas69charg

the subframes  are made by auto rust restoration. Basically its 2x2 tubing. I will take a pic today and post.
69 dodge charger 383/727/3.55 (my dad is the original owner-matching number) stroked to a 496😉

BrianShaughnessy

Quote from: lasvegas69charg on August 31, 2012, 09:00:55 AM
the subframes  are made by auto rust restoration. Basically its 2x2 tubing. I will take a pic today and post.

I know it can be done...  just don't know exactly how.    This is a late friend's 68 gtx around '07.

Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

lasvegas69charg

Here is a pic of what I'm talking about.  I may have to go around the bottom of the subframe connector.

69 dodge charger 383/727/3.55 (my dad is the original owner-matching number) stroked to a 496😉

BrianShaughnessy

Quote from: lasvegas69charg on August 31, 2012, 07:42:53 PM
Here is a pic of what I'm talking about.  I may have to go around the bottom of the subframe connector.



Kinda looks like the front of the SFC was mounted a bit high.    :scratchchin:    I think they were supposed to be flush with the bottom of the T-bar crossmember.

Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

lasvegas69charg

yeah I think your right. If they would of flush mounted I would of been ok. Do you think I can just go around the bottom of the sfc?
69 dodge charger 383/727/3.55 (my dad is the original owner-matching number) stroked to a 496😉

tan top

 yes maybe  , but  lot of tight bends to put in the fuel line  :scratchchin:

just for referance to what i mentioned in my above post , this is the tempory lines i have (  been on there 10 years, well the 3/8 " one has   ;D :scratchchin: )  :-\ ::)
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

lasvegas69charg

what I ended up doing was drilling another hole above the existing, cutting the fuel 4" past where it goes thru the crossmember to make it easier going thru the hole and reconnecting with a piece of fuel line. I didn't want to cut it but really didn't have any other option. 
69 dodge charger 383/727/3.55 (my dad is the original owner-matching number) stroked to a 496😉

HeavyFuel

Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on August 31, 2012, 06:30:18 AM
The uscartool ones I got in Sinnamon have slots cut up front...   I guess I'll find out how difficult this job is when I get around to installing the lines later on.

http://store.uscartool.com/66-70-B-Body-Frame-Connectors_p_13.html

It wasn't really a problem with the MP connectors in Black Betty.
I have the US Cartools subs, and put in the new lines a while back.  

The brake line was OK to rework the bends and get it wrigled through.  They were new and the metal is soft.

The fuel lines had to be cut to get them in, and I'll end up flaring them and using rubber hose to splice.  The original metal line is just too hard to work through those slots.