1968 RT VIN/Ebag

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I am getting ready to list rusty/pretty complete  RT on ebay?  What are the pros/cons of putting the entire VIN in the add.  I always see people blocking the last digits of the VIN.  Any thoughts?

[JB400]

I am getting ready to list rusty/pretty complete  RT on ebay?  What are the pros/cons of putting the entire VIN in the add.  I always see people blocking the last digits of the VIN.  Any thoughts?

Pros:  It would allow people to know it is a legit R/T. It would verify it has the correct type engine, trans. where it was built.
Cons: The smart person down the street from you can get another title to your car, put it in their name, and claim your car is theirs.
My suggestion is do what other people are doing. Post all but the last 6 digits.  The last 6 digits are the serial number.
Another suggestion is to post pics on here. Someone might want to buy your car, or know someone that does.  Good luck selling your car.

[1974dodgecharger]

how common is that, that someone steals a vin and then tries to claim at DMV is their car without the DMV looking at the car with the VIN.

Then to claim it as theirs the car when another person has the title in hand with car with vin etc....

sounds like a fast and furious movie....

I am getting ready to list rusty/pretty complete  RT on ebay?  What are the pros/cons of putting the entire VIN in the add.  I always see people blocking the last digits of the VIN.  Any thoughts?

Pros:  It would allow people to know it is a legit R/T. It would verify it has the correct type engine, trans. where it was built.
Cons: The smart person down the street from you can get another title to your car, put it in their name, and claim your car is theirs.
My suggestion is do what other people are doing. Post all but the last 6 digits.  The last 6 digits are the serial number.
Another suggestion is to post pics on here. Someone might want to buy your car, or know someone that does.  Good luck selling your car.

[JB400]

Gone in 60 Seconds
Either way, it's strongly recommended not to post the last 6 digits. 

[Ghoste]

Yeah, its easy to block the last six and no one needs that part to know the car is legit.

[bakerhillpins]

So as much as I like to succumb to everything on the internet is true I just don't buy this. I can walk down the street and grab all the VINs I want all day long, so how come I don't constantly hear reports of this occurring. Not to mention all of the VINs that I see walk across this and other sites.

Gonna play devils advocate here and go with 

[Ghoste]

It might be bs but it takes so little trouble to block them out why take the chance?   Not apples to apples by any definition but how often do you hear of someone putting for sale signs on other peoples cars too and trying and sell them from their driveway?  Now how often do you see scammer ads on the internet where they try to sell someone elses car?

[1974dodgecharger]

So as much as I like to succumb to everything on the internet is true I just don't buy this. I can walk down the street and grab all the VINs I want all day long, so how come I don't constantly hear reports of this occurring. Not to mention all of the VINs that I see walk across this and other sites.

Gonna play devils advocate here and go with 

That was my point also about the 'fast and furious' I just dont see this happening either. I give my vins out all day I dont care personally Its the title thats important and I have it safe away.

Its not like I can walk into a DMV with all digits of a car and say its mine and get it registered and then get a title for it. Its not that easy to do based on my experience. Even at all the car shows they show their vin on the car as is and yet no issues there either.

[Ghoste]

Dont  be so sure.  Some states it nearly takes an act of God but there are other states where it is pretty easy to get a title reissued.  Anyway, suit yourself.  Me?  I don't give out any more info than I have to.   FWIW, I'm also one of those people who shreds any documentation that leaves my home in the trash with personal information on it.

[bakerhillpins]

It might be bs but it takes so little trouble to block them out why take the chance?   Not apples to apples by any definition but how often do you hear of someone putting for sale signs on other peoples cars too and trying and sell them from their driveway?  Now how often do you see scammer ads on the internet where they try to sell someone elses car?

Because it's just buying into the scare tactics.  Selling a car you don't own by putting a sign on it and/or using photos to sell something that they don't have isn't the same thing. Well ok, it's all dishonest so it is. But IMHO you are going out of your way to make your self worry about something that you can't control anyhow. 

It's the same issue with License Plates.. They are publicly displayed anyhow so what's the big deal?   

[JB400]

I'd rather not go through identity theft.  Sounds like a pain the ---.    

[Ghoste]

I did say it wasn't the same, that point was more about the fact that some crimes are easier by internet.  Anyway, it really does come down to individual choice.  If you're comfortable with it, go for it.  Some buying into scare tactics work on me I guess and this happens to be one of them.

[JB400]

I did say it wasn't the same, that point was more about the fact that some crimes are easier by internet.  Anyway, it rally does come down to individual choice.  If you're comfortable with it, go for it.  Some buying into scare tactics work on me I guess and this happens to be one of them.

I agree 110%

[bakerhillpins]

Fair enough guys.  Oh and while I make the point with you all on this issue, I do make the same "why take the chance?" point of view in other situations.

[Ghoste]

I'd rather not go through identity theft.  Sounds like a pain the ---.   

I know two people who went through it and one of them is still fighting to regain his name after several years, many dollars and countless headaches.  The other one it took her over a year and less money and headache but still brutal to watch from the sidelines.
My wife had an atm card get the info swiped from what was otherwise a legitimate machine and even that took a month to correct. 

[JB400]

It definitely ain't hard anymore to get someones private info.  That old saying " Better safe than sorry" needs to be practiced more now than in years past.

[Ghoste]

Yes, and the irony is that its so easy to steal it and so hard to get it rectified.

[JB400]

Yes, and the irony is that its so easy to steal it and so hard to get it rectified.

So true. Indeed

[68X426]

Fair enough guys.  Oh and while I make the point with you all on this issue, I do make the same "why take the chance?" point of view in other situations.

I'd worry way more about ex-wives and ex-girlfriends than I'd worry about strangers and a VIN.

Can you trust a pair of ovaries that you broke up with?

[cdr]

Fair enough guys.  Oh and while I make the point with you all on this issue, I do make the same "why take the chance?" point of view in other situations.

I'd worry way more about ex-wives and ex-girlfriends than I'd worry about strangers and a VIN.

Can you trust a pair of ovaries that you broke up with?

now that is a sobering thought 

[Ghoste]

Technically the ovaries were dating my, oh never mind.  It doesn't matter whose little brain your talking about irrational decisions are made on both sdes.

[1974dodgecharger]

Dont  be so sure.  Some states it nearly takes an act of God but there are other states where it is pretty easy to get a title reissued.  Anyway, suit yourself.  Me?  I don't give out any more info than I have to.   FWIW, I'm also one of those people who shreds any documentation that leaves my home in the trash with personal information on it.

still have a hard time believing not saying it cant happen since anything can happen (first black president), but it would take some 'connections' such as my grandma sisters, brother, uncle who works in the DMV I know can do some tricks for me and get me a title of some sort here in arizona for sure.

Here in arizona they check your car first by check it means they run a vin check, then get a ticket, then register it. So the car needs to be seen in person first and this is before getting an emissions (not for 1974 and older).

[Old Moparz]

New York State has a way to gain ownership of a vehicle, all you need to do is have possession of it for one year........ or lie to them.......

PDF file of the NYSDMV form.....the instructions are on the form & it seems so easy it's scary. 
http://www.dmv.ny.gov/forms/mv51b.pdf

There are no titles for 1974 & older so you get a "non-transferable registration" until they determine that a "transferable registration" will be issued. If the car is not in the system, such as a barn find that's been off the road for 30 years, who at DMV can say that you're lying to them?  

Is there a chance it'll work? Maybe, but it's a big gamble in my opinion, but I'm looking at it from a point of view of myself being honest. Would a dishonest POS thief give it a try? Probably, & they won't care whether it's right or wrong. If they fill out the form & lie about being the owner, all they need is the VIN.

I would never post the VIN on the internet.  

[JB400]

Same inspection here in Missouri as well.  But here's the kicker, the inspector writes his info on a ticket book he bought at Wal-Mart.  So, in other words, I can walk up to your car, get the vin, write it in a store bought ticket book, forge an inspectors' signature, go to the DMV and file for a lost title.  One month later, I get the title,  I come and get your car, and with a quick repaint,  I legally own your car.  What goes on at the DMV at Jeff City, I don't know, but I know people that do.

Would I actually do it, NO NO NO NO!!!!!!  But, I'm trying to prove a point.  Can your female friends do the same thing, it wouldn't surprise me.  Pick your friends carefully.  Like they say, "Keep one eye on your enemies, keep both eyes on your friends."

[1974dodgecharger]

As with anything 'LIFE' is a gamble hell you have parents claiming kids from other parents saying switched at birth, you have people steeling wifi from others, so in the end nothing is sacred.

The more you think you are being sacred from anyone is the day you will be found out that you are not so sacred........


My personal opinion I dont give a 2 sheits of me trying to hide things such as VINs in fact people hate it that I dont hide the VIN of a car in fact they think im trying to hide more VIN numbers after the 6 and I have sold 3 chargers in my lifetime. Told the truth about VIN among other things and they hate it that I tell the truth....


When peole realize that other people try to hide things and when a person tells the truth they want to be lied to sometimes....