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Started by Gary42, August 30, 2012, 12:55:13 PM

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Gary42

I am kicking around the idea of selling my 1972 Dodge Charger. Its a Rally car with a 340, and its numbers matching car. Hemi orange with a black interior. I have a ton of used and new OEM parts that will go with it if I decide to sell this car. Here is the problem. It is a running car, but here in "lies," used its spelling this way because that's all I feel I have been given, sry, don't want to offend anyone on here. Now, as for road worthy now? No! When I bought this car 5 years ago it was. I contracted with a local guy to do some quarter panel and other work for me, not the body work or paint. After a thousand dollar deposit, of the $3500 we agreed on, pallet of sand blasting sand, and two and three year wait, I now have a car that is short of the drivers side quarter panel and a front windshield. Like I said I have about everything it needs for a complete resto and then some. I also have the complete rear of another car that was to be used for parts if necessary. I guess I've just reached that boiling point as to where I lost interest in it, and now want to move onto something else. Since I sold my Hummer and bought a new Challenger with the Rally package, my interest has changed. I know what I have invested in this car and have been watching the sales continue to rise, but I'm not interested in making any money on it, just what I have in it. Could anyone given me a round about figure as to what its actually worth. Keeping in mind it does need to be restored but is not a basket case as I have seen on eBay or craigslist. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
V/R
Gary
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Troy

It's tough to sell a project - especially one that's disassembled and missing large chunks of sheet metal. I'd guess less than 10% of its finished value. Sad. I've tried selling project cars - and generally given up. It doesn't seem to matter what all you have or how easy it is to reassemble - the people who buy these generally do so because they can get them for pennies on the dollar.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

41husk

Are you looking for a value?  If so I would start at trying to get back what you have in it.  Give that a little time.  ask a little more than that so you have some room to negotiate.  Try to be patient.  If you can not get what you have in it or a reasonable offer, you will have to decide what you can afford to lose or finish the job and enjoy the car :Twocents:  I love the 72 rallye and I am sure there are others out there who feel the same and may want to finish the work!  Good luck!
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

Ghoste

I agree with Troy, projects are tough to sell without taking a bath it always seems.

Gary42

Surely I agree with Troy and I am seeing this reaction more and more each day. Dang thing is.......if it were still looking like it did when I purchased it (not good at all) then they would buy it. They are going to have to do what I have, or as I say "have not" had done, eventually, but they just cannot seem to get beyond the sheet metal issue. Even when I show them what I have and how much I have invested in all the parts. I love this car and I truly think it would be a great looking car sitting next to my new Challenger, but I guess since all this happened I feel like just giving up. I have a chance to buy a good 70 Charger shell to clone into a Daytona like I had planned a couple of years ago. I can purchase most everything I need from a friend to do this, but I feel that I might need to move forward and let go of this project before starting a new one. Value? I wish I could say. I am sincerely grateful for the advice, and it is well taken from those who have taken the time to post their opinion.
V/R
Gary
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Daytona R/T SE

Can you post some pictures?
:popcrn:

myk

Well definitely don't start another project when you're still wrestling with one at the moment.  You'll feel ripped off if you sell the car as it is, but if you're no longer feeling anything for the car it might be just as good to cut your losses.  Look at it this way: even if you finished the car you'd be that much more into the project financially and you still won't get what you feel you deserve for the project.  So, it's decision time: wash your hands of it and cut your losses, or build it and cut your losses then, but with the sense of accomplishment and who knows?  You may even like the car enough to keep it.  Good luck, 'OP...

Gary42

I will post some pics this weekend, just hate to uncover it and look at the mess I am left with. I truly thought I was doing well when I had found the build sheet and the double fender tags, Although it is a numbers matching car, seeing the Daytona that Hotrod is going to start on next week sincerely brought my decision to "maybe" one step closer to selling this car and begin on a clone. After seeing the most amazing document I had ever seen today, even Larry had never seen a document like this, some sort of Chrysler document found under the rear carpet of this Daytona. Some guy, not sure of this spelling, T. Guzneck made notes on it about building this Daytona from a Charger 500. Its to the Henneck division? And it talks about the Federal standards, the deleted items, and even states that (400), not 378 units will be built. Larry Roper knows more about this, but I actually held this document in my hands and was able to read most of it. It has the upper part of the vin for the Daytona and the letter attached to it.
Seeing all this pushes me closer to a new avenue of approach with this build, then again like you said, it would be either a hit or miss with the sale or build. If completed.......I'd probably keep it, then again spending over $12,000.00 to restore it plus what I have in the purchase and parts, I should get back what I have invested......MAYBE. I truly like the body style and the unique added features of the 72 B body Rally, then again it puts the clone build two more years. I just don't know I guess.
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Ghoste

And of course you are the only one who can decide.  The 72 does sound like an interesting car.  This document you saw, that is kind of fascinating too.

Gary42

Yes it was. I should have gotten pics of it, but I'm sure Larry has some. I had never seen this document in any mag, post, or paper. I couldn't believe what I was reading, and the amazing part is....this guy was from Washington state. It is a Y2 Yellow Daytona? Bought in 71 by this guys dad, been in a garage most all its life. The dad passes away and leaves it to his son. The new owner is now the third owner. It was on eBay I believe and then it was gone. Come to find out, the new owner is from NY, just 35 miles from where my folks live. I'm sure you will be hearing and seeing it soon posted on here.
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Ghoste


Gary42

Funny part is......the build sheet had a build sheet for some other four door car attached to it that was to be built. Didn't think that there were any other cars build on the Daytona line at the sametime. Some how it was attached to it with a piece of tape.....makes an interesting find. It also had what the Henneck division was to do in order to change the vin code to xx. Dang, wished I had taken pics of this, but like I said, it will probably be posted some where soon for everyone to see.
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Ghoste

Daytonas started on the line as regular Charger RT's before being sent to Creative Industries for the conversion so yes, there were other cars on the line.

Gary42

Trying to post a few pics,,,,,grrrrr,,,,,,can't figure it out........HELP, lol
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Ghoste

Some good pic posting tutorials in the suggestions forum.

Gary42

Lol, don't see the pics.......duh.....computer dummy here.....
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Ghoste

Are you getting any kind of error message?  Once you know it, its a fairly routine process.

Gary42

Dang....how did you know that? Yup, it keeps telling me that the file has the same name as I posted? What the heck.....lol
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Gary42

Some pics of what I'm dealing with......sorry if they are not the best......lol
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Gary42

Step two?
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Gary42

Step three?
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Gary42

Step four?
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Gary42

And step five.......lol, what a dummy I am....
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Gary42

Just finishing up with my 1979 Dodge D100 pickup, it looks great for not being repainted or destroyed in the bed. No rust, new 318 and trans. This is why I'm trying to decide what direction I truly need to go in next....bummer,,,,,,this is tough!!!!!!! :'(
1972 Dodge Charger, Rally edition
2010 Dodge Challenger, Rally package
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest."


- Mark Twain

Cooter

See, IMO, buying a car like that in that condition(Missing half the car, even though that makes it that much easier to replace quarter), people are all looking to hear "Wow! Good SCORE! Car looks GREAT!".....Instead, buying something that looks like that is gonna get 'em the ol "Damn, you paid how much for that???"



Sorry, but your gonna have to put in some time on that thing in order to get paid for it.
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