Beautiful car, but............

[Mytur Binsdirti]

......the starting bid is just waaaay too high.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Charger-2-DR-1970-R-T-Charger-/230835749272?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item35bee20198#ht_500wt_1182


I'll leave it to others to talk about the putrid color combination.   

[cdr]

......the starting bid is just waaaay too high.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Charger-2-DR-1970-R-T-Charger-/230835749272?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item35bee20198#ht_500wt_1182


I'll leave it to others to talk about the putrid color combination.   

[1974dodgecharger]

DUDE ITS A CHARGER THEY GO UP IN VALUE DAILY 

[Brian in GA]

God bless him, another guy who's about to learn that just because you sink a bankroll into it, doesn't mean you're gonna get a bankroll OUT of it.   

[Patronus]

$65K 

[PocketThunder]

Ok i'll start.

First, if the guy calls the suregrip a "posi" thats a 
Second it looks like the corner valence caps are smoothed over, thats a 
Third, The trunk is all green, then the floor mat has black paint spray around it..   

Oh and deduct 50% off the starting price for color..     

[Benji]

Hmmm, the black spray at the edges of the trunk mat appears only on the last image.  On the image directly above it, which is a wide angle shot of the exact same area, there is no black spray???

Benji

[1970Moparmann]

This will be on Ebay for a while.  Too bad on the color outside of the price.  Nice car.......BUT.......

[41husk]

You never know some one may by it.  If I had 65k to buy a car I could get much more for my money in this economy  That being said if it were mine I would drive it proudly

[Indygenerallee]

  I wish mother Mopar had never offered that color.....

[Surf Charger]

I wish mother Mopar had never offered that color.....

You don't like the "peas and carrots" package?

[6pkrtse]

I like the color personally. It is different. Not for that price though. Everyone else has already switch every other Charger to Red, Black, Blue or orange (01).

[moparstuart]

 is it just my screen or is the wood grain way to dark in the interior also ? 

[cdr]

is it just my screen or is the wood grain way to dark in the interior also ? 

HUMMM somebody say somethin 

[Budnicks]

I like the color personally. It is different. Not for that price though. Everyone else has already switch every other Charger to Red, Black, Blue or orange (01).

Me too,   I personally really like green cars   , I had a dark green 68 Charger R/T, my 1st car, back in 1973-74, that may have something to do with it...  

[BigBlackDodge]

What is that pipe for behind the RR wheel well? California gas tank emission thingy?  

As a '70 owner I should know.....but I don't.



BBD

[BigBlackDodge]

is it just my screen or is the wood grain way to dark in the interior also ? 

HUMMM somebody say somethin 

Looks very 'golden' to me.


BBD

[Dino]

Thw woodgrain is not only dark, it doesn't even look like the usual grain.  Maybe he 'enhanced' it a bit.

What's with the tan carpet?

[twodko]

What is that pipe for behind the RR wheel well? California gas tank emission thingy?  

As a '70 owner I should know.....but I don't.



BBD

Some 70's had that pipe for vapor emission release....some didn't. I think all Cali cars had them.

That car is super clean and there are some detractions but $65k......no. $40 to $50k quite possibly. 

[68X426]

Hmmm, the black spray at the edges of the trunk mat appears only on the last image.  On the image directly above it, which is a wide angle shot of the exact same area, there is no black spray???

Benji

Two different photo sequences, taken at two different times. Clearly a before and after, and the after has had a spray painting.

Bizarre doesn't begin to describe what we see. Raises questions of what does the spray paint hide. 

[BigBlackDodge]

What is that pipe for behind the RR wheel well? California gas tank emission thingy?  

As a '70 owner I should know.....but I don't.



BBD

Some 70's had that pipe for vapor emission release....some didn't. I think all Cali cars had them.

That car is super clean and there are some detractions but $65k......no. $40 to $50k quite possibly. 

Ahhhh......thx!




BBD

[hatersaurusrex]

Hmmm, the black spray at the edges of the trunk mat appears only on the last image.  On the image directly above it, which is a wide angle shot of the exact same area, there is no black spray???

Benji

Probably a rust preventative put down after the first pic was taken

[Dans 68]

Except for the price I like it.

Dan

[Ghoste]

I'm with you, the color doesn't turn me off but the price, yikes.

[TUFCAT]

I saw this car personally at Carlisle. It's a very high level very expensive restoration and I liked the color very much in real life. The paint and bodywork is so perfect that it almost makes every other car look bad.

The car would be worthy of a 65K price if I owned it.    

[myk]

Alright I'll say it: it's only worth what someone's willing to pay.  If this 'resto job is everything that it's hyped up to be I'm sure there's some Mecum or Barrett Jackson junkie that would be willing to buy that thing...

[1974dodgecharger]

Alright I'll say it: it's only worth what someone's willing to pay.  If this 'resto job is everything that it's hyped up to be I'm sure there's some Mecum or Barrett Jackson junkie that would be willing to buy that thing...

the misinformed will buy it thinking they got a deal and then try to sell it for 250k quoting a jackson auction awhile back

[hemi*guy]

        In my book. a Chargers a Charger ! I love it!!!!!!

[ACUDANUT]

I agree with most here. Pea green really kills the car. I hate that color. IMO green belongs on tanks, Jeeps and Tractors.

[twodko]

" IMO green belongs on tanks, Jeeps and tractors."


Now that's funny right there!

[69 OUR/TEA]

I will be the one who dares to be different,we all have dif tastes,food,beer,cars,colors,etc.......but I actualy LOVE triple green Chargers 68's,69's,and 70.By my monitor,looks to be a very nice resto,and as some said,it is worth what someone is willing to pay.

[Chargen69]

when mine is done, it'll take 100k to get it out of my hands...  course I won't be putting a for sale sign on it either, just saying, if somebody is stupid enough to ask me at a show, thats what i am going to tell them.  haha

[bakerhillpins]

I will be the one who dares to be different,we all have dif tastes,food,beer,cars,colors,etc.......but I actualy LOVE triple green Chargers 68's,69's,and 70.By my monitor,looks to be a very nice resto,and as some said,it is worth what someone is willing to pay.

Cool, so you will want to dump that o-so difficult to maintain 3x9 car of yours. I will miss mine when I take it back to Q5 so you should just send it up here. 

Looks like a VERY nice car. However, I am one of the masses that doesn't like 3F cars. Mostly it's the green interior and tops. I guess the 70's just scarred me. 

[A383Wing]

I actually like the darker woodgrain on the dash..but that's just me

Bryan

[Stretch]

I like the color but I like green. One of the things I like about green is you just dont see it and it looks great with black accents.

Ok, thats two things but you get my point.

[Scaregrabber]

Nice car. If I see another orange one I'm going to hurl.

Sheldon

[A383Wing]

Nice car. If I see another orange one I'm going to hurl.

Sheldon

orange "one" below

Bryan

[Budnicks]

Nice car. If I see another orange one I'm going to hurl.

Sheldon

orange "one" below

Bryan

now that's funny

[Cooter]

SO, Now I'm really confused.....

I see numerous threads asking [IE Begging] for a Charger. Have money. Ebay is loaded with what I would call very nice cars. Granted, they could be roaches under all that paint and chrome, but that's why you go look at it BEFORE buying. Yet, When I see ads for Cheaper Chargers, everybody refuses to buy because of the cost to rebuild/restore them...Yet, when a VERY nice one comes up that is clearly priced in the realm of what the owner has already spent on a restoration and the ones buying clearly know (as they would have bought the roach if they didn't), they claim the asking price is too much knowing it would take way more to restore the same car?

Hmmmm, so maybe the underlying thinking here is A Rust free, original everything Charger, has 10K original miles on it, every option known to mankind, for $3500.00??

I haven't found that one yet either.

[Budnicks]

SO, Now I'm really confused.....

Hmmmm, so maybe the underlying thinking here is A Rust free, original everything Charger, has 10K original miles on it, every option known to mankind, for $3500.00??

I haven't found that one yet either.

Me either, I only wish I could...LOL... Most people seem to want to buy the biggest POS they can find, trying to save a buck, then spend years on a project, or then spend a couple years restoring it & have still $50k plus when done, if it's done right, accounting for electricity, Internet & Phone connection {for parts ordering}, tools, storage, time, parts, labor, body & paint, trim peices, interior, suspension, wiring hack jobs, not to mention all the aggravation in finding &/or ordering parts for 40 year old cars, let alone the shipping costs & fuel costs running back & forth to some parts store or swap meets, etc... But wont pay the same price for a quality restoration, already done... Go figure, I like to do my own builds & stuff, but I also can respect all the time & effort in some of the nicer already restored cars too....

[Scaregrabber]

I think it's obvious that a four barrel Charger is not a $50k car. Ten years ago you could sell a car for what you had into it but not now. This isn't really terrible because for decades you almost always sold a car at a loss, we've just gotten back to that point is all. What is comical though is the $10k project cars that should have been crushed years ago. Those guys can't figure out why they don't sell either, of course they aren't ever going to restore them after they add up what it would cost, but I guess they hope the new buyer won't add it up.

Sheldon

[Mytur Binsdirti]

SO, Now I'm really confused.....

I see numerous threads asking [IE Begging] for a Charger. Have money. Ebay is loaded with what I would call very nice cars. Granted, they could be roaches under all that paint and chrome, but that's why you go look at it BEFORE buying. Yet, When I see ads for Cheaper Chargers, everybody refuses to buy because of the cost to rebuild/restore them...Yet, when a VERY nice one comes up that is clearly priced in the realm of what the owner has already spent on a restoration and the ones buying clearly know (as they would have bought the roach if they didn't), they claim the asking price is too much knowing it would take way more to restore the same car?

Hmmmm, so maybe the underlying thinking here is A Rust free, original everything Charger, has 10K original miles on it, every option known to mankind, for $3500.00??

I haven't found that one yet either.

I am looking for a '68 4-speed  R/T & I have a brick of cash available for the right car. Personally, I don't want a #1 perfectly restored car, rather, I prefer a solid #2 car & there just doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for at this juncture in time.

But getting back to the 70 R/T, seeing as there are no bidders on it, a 65,000 STARTING price is just way out of line. Personally, I feel that right now, he'd be lucky to get 65K for it IF it were a high impact color. The car's got 4 strikes against it; light green exterior, green vinyl roof, green interior and tan rugs. It doesn't get any more visually undesirable than that. If it had a 4-speed, the car could somewhat  be redeemed, but because of that color combination, I see that as a $55,000.00 car at best.

[Cooter]

I won;t argue that that is YOUR opinion of said 1970 R/T, however, he isn't ness. aiming at you. He might be aiming at someone looking for a correct car, be it not the more common Orange/Purple/red/etc.
Doesn't mean it's less of a car because it has a not-so-popular color on it. Simply paint it if it makes one that sick to look at it. Green is like caviar. An aquired taste. But I'm not gonna say that fish eggs aren't worth what they cost because I don't like them. Someone, somewhere will pay the cost for this car if it is in fact, as good as it looks.

Point I was trying to make is the fact that there are NO MORE "perfect" cars at affordable prices. Thanks to BJ, Gas Monkey Garage, Mekum, and the like. This has brought out all those who want to cash in on these cars instead of just enjoying them. IMO, that is the real travesty in this whole hobby, not the fact that there just aren't any "Good" cars left.

I can remember buying running and primarily rust free 1969 Charger R/T for $2000.00 back in 1987. These cars have Jumped 30 times that because people have sold a few at those prices. Not all have sold at those prices, but those few seems to dictate the market for the rest. I have no problem with anybody selling cars. It's the ones that don't do anything to a car they bought, but because it is in their posession, it jumps 50 times in value. At least half ass clean the cobwebs out of it. If it was sold to dude at a fair market price, WTF makes him think it should sell for WAY more once HE owns it? This is the real problem. How do we know this guy didn't buy said '70 and thinks it should cost way more than the $55K he paiid for it on EvilBay. Good luck on your hunt, as I will be eager to see what you deem as a good deal.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

. Good luck on your hunt, as I will be eager to see what you deem as a good deal.

As a second choice, I am looking for a 1969 1/2 A12 4-speed car. Right now, I'm finding more of those around than '68 Chargers.    Currently, I've got my eye on two similar non-matching numbers 4-speed F6 cars; one's a coupe & ones a hardtop. The hard top is in the neighborhood of mid-high 50's & unfortunately, I have to wait a week to find out the scoop on the coupe.

Trust me, that price range isn't scaring me, but I'm finding zero '68 4-speed Chargers out there for the quality that one would expect in a vehicle that's in that price range. In fact, other than 3 overpriced stick hemi cars, I can't find any halfway decent '68 4-speed R/T right now.    

[1969chargerrtse]

I saw this car personally at Carlisle. It's a very high level very expensive restoration and I liked the color very much in real life. The paint and bodywork is so perfect that it almost makes every other car look bad.

The car would be worthy of a 65K price if I owned it.    

Once again I agree with you.  I had 45k in mine and the motor wasn't correct, no tag or build sheet.  It wasn't restored to that condition even close.  My under side was 40 years old as most of the original parts.  You'd pay that price if it was mine also.  I don't care for green, but I like that car 100%.
I know 65k is a lot in this economy but I think the price reflects the condition.

[ChgrSteve67]

Its called a fishing expedition

If it was a HEMI car he might have a shot at that amount.

[Cooter]

I think we all are kinda suffering from what everybody that is trying to sell these days is suffering from. "This is a bad economy, you should give me that car because I waved a wad in front of you and I don't care how much you have in it"....

Yes, a few might be willing to give their 426 Hemi car away at $25K, but just because one guy is hurting/sells for peanuts, I don't think everybody's hurting. Some are still pricing from 5 years ago, as that was when they invested the money in it.

[1974dodgecharger]

Cooter,
There are the sellers who think their own chargers are worth so much becuase like I have said over and over they give the line, 'Its a charger they go up in value daily' or the other one, 'well on barret jackson sold for 200k and you have have the same value also' these people are essentially delusional and you find many of them on ebay.

Then you have buyers who want a 5k car worth well 20k!!!

Then you have the middle fair ground folks (far and few) that a 15k to 20k car is a runner with very few problems and YES they are out there. You can ask forum members here they got them from other forum members. These cars are the sweet spot price range 15k to 25k or so is a sweet spot and hardly no rust or bondo work on it and YES they are out there.

So when a forum member tells you they got cash (such as me) Im not rushing to buy a rust bucket either or Im not rushign to buy a customized car based on the previous owners liking either. Most would agree...in this price range...

-mostly rush free minor surfacer rust
-runs great
-guages dont work so what
-engine rebuilt awesome
-tranny also rebuilt awesome

etc...

SO, Now I'm really confused.....

I see numerous threads asking [IE Begging] for a Charger. Have money. Ebay is loaded with what I would call very nice cars. Granted, they could be roaches under all that paint and chrome, but that's why you go look at it BEFORE buying. Yet, When I see ads for Cheaper Chargers, everybody refuses to buy because of the cost to rebuild/restore them...Yet, when a VERY nice one comes up that is clearly priced in the realm of what the owner has already spent on a restoration and the ones buying clearly know (as they would have bought the roach if they didn't), they claim the asking price is too much knowing it would take way more to restore the same car?

Hmmmm, so maybe the underlying thinking here is A Rust free, original everything Charger, has 10K original miles on it, every option known to mankind, for $3500.00??

I haven't found that one yet either.

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[1974dodgecharger]

If I flashed 40k in his face I bet he would take it in heartbeat and sign that title over in a quickness 

[Ghoste]

I don't think he would.

[1969chargerrtse]

65k is a lot but cars in that condition cost at least that in restoration to look like that. Chances of getting the 65 is slim. It's the cost of the fallen economy.  I had to keep that in mind when I lost my 15k in selling mine. People are losing 100's of thousands in the housing market. It sucks. I don't think he'd take 40k either. Maybe 55?
If you want to move on you have to take the hit. I'm sitting in my TA now at DD enjoying the morning before work. No regrets.

[1974dodgecharger]

I don't think he would.

yes I blame the economy, but YES if I flashed 45k in my hands well in a suitace since I did have once in my hands 40k and YES its a lot in ones hands literally. He would take it and no offense to someone selling their car that was restored in such presitine condition to only sell it means to me the person needs money.

YOu do not spend 100k on a car or whatever how it costs to then want to sell the car unless you are pathetically rich and bored and that still points me back to him wanting to sell it to someone flashign that much money since he would care less.

Reminds of this guy that buys cars brand new off the lot such as an FJ cruiser and then sends it over to super duty headquarters here in arizona and spends 300k on fabriacting to fit a LS3 in the engine bay among other goodies and then to send it to sema for kicks and giggls to show off and then selli t of r 75k he does this eyarly. Has too much money on hsi hands he tell sme....

[Ghoste]

I suppose we'll find out in a day when the auction ends.  You could put a bid in for 40k and see if it hits his reserve.  I still think he would refuse your offer, you are assuming he is selling the car because he has to when it could very well be that he just wants something else.

[1969chargerrtse]

Ya never know?  Watch those pawn stars shows. Things are worth a 1,000.00 and they offer 300.00 and eventually most people take it. Amazes me how many people fold. I thought several times I could of gotten 40k and I ended up taking 32.5 from someone because I just wanted to move on.
When I had my 57 Nomad high school car I wouldn't of sold it for any price. Every year this kid stopped by my house asking me. Every year I said no. One year he stopped stopping by.  That's when I finally wanted to sell. I almost gave the thing away. It's all timing.

[Ghoste]

I would say that anyone going into a pawn shop though is doing so because they NEED the cash.

[Dino]

I would say that anyone going into a pawn shop though is doing so because they NEED the cash.

There's a reason that place is in Vegas.   

[1969chargerrtse]

Agree on both counts.

[1974dodgecharger]

its actually PORN this car when you look at it...seriously its a sexy car...

[Ghoste]

14 hours to go and no bids yet.  I will be interested to see how it ends tomorrow.