Bullitt vs. Vanishing Point

[73-charger-383]

I've never seen either movie yet.....In celebration of finally being ready for paint i'm going to reward myself with watching one of them tonight....what would you suggest?

[Ghoste]

Both.  Sorry thats just the way it is.  You might as well come on here asking if you should date a brunette or a blonde.

[myk]

Exactly, the correct answer is D: Bullitt, Vanishing Point, Blond and Brunette, or all of the above...

[Kern Dog]

Bullitt was a B O R E H O L E !!!
The movie bored the hell out of me. The only redeeming parts were the chase scene. A sheet of plywood had more charisma than Steve McQueen. The movie moved slow with minimal action.
Vanishing Point? Oh, hell yeah! It wasn't just the action or the driving. The music was cool. The supporting actors were interesting. The whole "Anti-establishment" theme was well represented. I was 6 years old when Vanishing Point came out, but I first saw it on TV in the early 80s. It is my all time favorite classic Mopar related movie.
I wouldn't recomend that you skip Bullitt, just be aware that the movie got its fame from a single chase scene embedded in a mediocre movie.

[c00nhunterjoe]

I agree. Bullit bored me until theend. Vanishing point is muc more enjoyable to watch. The remake is pretty good too. There's always 2 lane black top.

[FJ5WING]

you guys dont like Bullitt because the Charger gets it butt kicked by the Lil Mussytang!

[elacruze]

Prolly too late, but VP! I've watched VP maybe 50 times, and Bullitt 10.

[69 OUR/TEA]

If you want to watch a more car action movie with a green Mustang chasing a bad guy in a black 68 Charger.......the orig "Cannonball" with David Carradine.

[Bob T]

If you want to watch a more car action movie with a green Mustang chasing a bad guy in a black 68 Charger.......the orig "Cannonball" with David Carradine.

We had a Car Club run to a movie night the other weekend and the movie was Cannonball, had'nt seen it before, the cheese was ladeled on heavy in 70's fashion but not too bad a movie for what it was. Man, they beat the Hell out of that Black 68 Charger, the club guys were calling it out as my car 

[TK73]

I agree. Bullit bored me until theend. Vanishing point is muc more enjoyable to watch. The remake is pretty good too. There's always 2 lane black top.

2 Lane Blacktop is cool... once

[Fred]

Car movies.........I enjoy them all.  I watch them for the cars and don't set my expectations too high. I except them for what they are.  
Good or bad..........I've got every one of them in my collection.

[myk]

Bullitt was a bore but I tried to look at it as an exercise in cool.  No matter what went down, people shooting at him, black Chargers stalking him, a@@hole bosses and most deadly of all: angry whiny girlfriends, Bullitt was too cool to care.  I guess you could say this was also the result of McQueen's inability to act, but whatever.

Car movies.........I enjoy them all.  I watch them for the cars and don't set my expectations too high. I except them for what they are.  
Good or bad..........I've got every one of them in my collection.

Even....The Wraith?

[tan top]

 neither !!     Dirty Mary Crazy larry  every time  



the original vanishing point is a brilliant film for challenger action  watched that prolly hundreds of times  ,  Bullit ok  , but only fast forward to the Charger stuff  

[TheGhost]

Aye, DMCL is my favorite.  I own Vanishing Point, but have only watched it once.  Never seen Bullit.

[Fred]

Bullitt was a bore but I tried to look at it as an exercise in cool.  No matter what went down, people shooting at him, black Chargers stalking him, a@@hole bosses and most deadly of all: angry whiny girlfriends, Bullitt was too cool to care.  I guess you could say this was also the result of McQueen's inability to act, but whatever.

Car movies.........I enjoy them all.  I watch them for the cars and don't set my expectations too high. I except them for what they are.  
Good or bad..........I've got every one of them in my collection.

Even....The Wraith?

Yes .  

[bill440rt]

I am one of the few that actually like the movie Bullitt.
I watched it first when I was young, didn't like it & thought it was boring. Then I watched it again when I was much older, I thought perhaps there was something else to it that I missed when I was younger. I liked it much better as I got older.

[Kern Dog]

Maybe I'll sit through Bullit when I turn 60. That leaves me 14 years to mature.

[36 Dodge Brothers]

I was born and raised in San Francisco and for that reason I would say Bullitt but like Tan Top mentioned Dirty Mary Crazy Larry is the way to go

[Mike DC]

            
Aside from the chase, "Bullitt" was probably more notable for its influence on future work than the movie itself.  The realism of the whole movie and the too-cool attitude of McQueen were new things at the time.  
         
     
"Vanishing Point" ages better but it was always a B-movie.  It's a product of the days when pro film crews could do weird artsy things.  It's more fun than "Bullitt" but the story doesn't make a lot of sense.  

[myk]

           
Aside from the chase, "Bullitt" was probably more notable for its influence on future work than the movie itself.  The realism of the whole movie and the too-cool attitude of McQueen were new things at the time.  
         
     
"Vanishing Point" ages better but it was always a B-movie.  It's a product of the days when pro film crews could do weird artsy things.  It's more fun than "Bullitt" but the story doesn't make a lot of sense.  

100% agree with that; personally I couldn't stand Vanishing Point-the first one OR the second one!

[Cooter]

It kills me how many actually look for meaning in ANY film, car or otherwise from the early 1970's. WTF? You had to be high in order to enjoy them. That was the whole point.

[moparstuart]

bullet

[67440chrg]

Bullitt. The Charger was the faster of the two real cars used in the movie.

[moparstuart]

yup they had to de tune the motor so it didnt out shine the hero

[Kern Dog]

DEtune?
Uhhh, no they didn't. Get the facts straight. Bill Hickman simply drove slower to allow the Mustang to catch up.

[Cooter]

Wonder what woulda happened if they had used a 1967-68 Shelby Mustang? I wonder if the Charger would have had to be driven slower then.....Hmmmm.

3800 LB. Charger 440 4-speed.

3200 LB Mustang....428 4-speed.

[Mike DC]

They didn't detune the Charger, but the tire contact patch was a lot smaller than stock.  Under those conditions it would slow the Charger down as effectively as several hundred pounds of ballast.  


As for a 428 Mustang?
Nearly the same cubes as the Charger + 600 lbs less curb weight + wider wheels/tires . . . it damn well oughtta be faster.

I think they should've had a smaller lighter 351 in that Mustang to tell you the truth.  The Mustang's front chassis was giving out under the weight of the 390.  And even if it wasn't, handling tends to help stunt cars more than horsepower.  



And from what I've read, both of the stunt cars were actually automatics, contrary to common belief.

[mauve66]

if your into smoking dope and driving circles out in the desert watch VP
if your into bad color, slow action, and waiting an hour for the reason you rented the movie in the first place, watch B

either way you have to cringe when a great mopar gets munched in the end

oh yeah, and its all because of a mustang in both of them (i read somewhere that a mustang towed the chally into the doxer)

[moparstuart]

if your into smoking dope and driving circles out in the desert watch VP
if your into bad color, slow action, and waiting an hour for the reason you rented the movie in the first place, watch B

either way you have to cringe when a great mopar gets munched in the end

oh yeah, and its all because of a mustang in both of them (i read somewhere that a mustang towed the chally into the doxer)

not true  the chally doesnt get hurt its a camaro

[Mike DC]

           

Yeah, they actually used the 383/727 Challenger to tow a '67 Camaro into the bulldozers.  They wanted to use an auto-tranny tow vehicle so the cable wouldn't go slack when the driver shifted it.  


The other four Challengers were all 440/4spds.  The 383/737 was also the only car still running by the end of the shoot.

[68X426]

I've never seen either movie yet.....In celebration of finally being ready for paint i'm going to reward myself with watching one of them tonight....what would you suggest?

So. What did you watch?

[mauve66]

if your into smoking dope and driving circles out in the desert watch VP
if your into bad color, slow action, and waiting an hour for the reason you rented the movie in the first place, watch B

either way you have to cringe when a great mopar gets munched in the end

oh yeah, and its all because of a mustang in both of them (i read somewhere that a mustang towed the chally into the doxer)

not true  the chally doesnt get hurt its a camaro

oh, i thought the chally got towed into the dozer

[Ghoste]

Definitely a 69 Camaro, if you watch closely at the end it becomes pretty apparent.

[200MPH]

vanishing point Barry Newman

[Cooter]

Definitely a 69 Camaro, if you watch closely at the end it becomes pretty apparent.

Watch closer, it's actually a 1967-68..in Chevy world, that would be like saying a '66 Charger is a second gen.

[Bobs69]

1.  Bullitt has a story line, it was lost on me because I just watched it for the cars.

2.  Vanishing point is like a porno.  Lots of fast driving and even a naked chick.

3.  Dirty Mary Crazy Larry.  That movie had it all.

You want to see an awesome car chase?  You got 8minutes and 11 seconds to watch it?  Not muscle cars but holly crap this guy is determined.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE2i08S3YeY

[Ghoste]

Definitely a 69 Camaro, if you watch closely at the end it becomes pretty apparent.

Watch closer, it's actually a 1967-68..in Chevy world, that would be like saying a '66 Charger is a second gen.

I'll take your word for it, not a big enough deal to me to watch it again.  I was sure it had the scallops behind the doors and ahead of the rear wheels there.  Unquestionably its a first gen Camaro but as for the comparison, I'd say mistaking a 67 Camaro for a 69 with a three second viewing window is a lot more like mistaking a 69 and 70 Charger from behind with the same amount of viewing time. 

[Bobs69]

Definitely a 69 Camaro, if you watch closely at the end it becomes pretty apparent.

Watch closer, it's actually a 1967-68..in Chevy world, that would be like saying a '66 Charger is a second gen.

I'll take your word for it, not a big enough deal to me to watch it again.  I was sure it had the scallops behind the doors and ahead of the rear wheels there.  Unquestionably its a first gen Camaro but as for the comparison, I'd say mistaking a 67 Camaro for a 69 with a three second viewing window is a lot more like mistaking a 69 and 70 Charger from behind with the same amount of viewing time. 

I've also heard it said that the used a camaro.

[Mike DC]

   
You can see vent windows on the doors of the Camaro during the credits.  That nails it down as a '67. 

 

[moparstuart]

1.  Bullitt has a story line, it was lost on me because I just watched it for the cars.

2.  Vanishing point is like a porno.  Lots of fast driving and even a naked chick.

3.  Dirty Mary Crazy Larry.  That movie had it all.

You want to see an awesome car chase?  You got 8minutes and 11 seconds to watch it?  Not muscle cars but holly crap this guy is determined.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE2i08S3YeY
[/quote hey was that max headroom   

[Robert96]

 Dirty Mary Crazy Larry was the best all around to watch. Vanishing Point, you gotta love a movie that has Leslie West's Moutain in it. Bullitt nothing but the car chase. Funny car chase movie, The Flim Flam Man. Dodge dart convetible chased by your standard Mopar police car of the 60's. Funny movie.

[68pplcharger]

Watch both... I've seen both more times than i can count. that's not very high lol. I've never watched the entire bullit movie. Fast forward to the moment under the bridge when McQueen gets in the mustang. Chase scene lasts about ten minutes, then switch to vanishing point.

[Ghoste]

I'm inspired to watch VP again from this and I think I'll do it tonite.  Just because. 

[1974dodgecharger]

i agree bullit was boring as hell....The only scenes people remember from that movie is the chase of the mustang and charger THATS IT!!! you ask what the movie was about people dont even know. All they say is....

'hey remember that chase between that badass charger and mustang'

Bullitt was a B O R E H O L E !!!
The movie bored the hell out of me. The only redeeming parts were the chase scene. A sheet of plywood had more charisma than Steve McQueen. The movie moved slow with minimal action.
Vanishing Point? Oh, hell yeah! It wasn't just the action or the driving. The music was cool. The supporting actors were interesting. The whole "Anti-establishment" theme was well represented. I was 6 years old when Vanishing Point came out, but I first saw it on TV in the early 80s. It is my all time favorite classic Mopar related movie.
I wouldn't recomend that you skip Bullitt, just be aware that the movie got its fame from a single chase scene embedded in a mediocre movie.

[wingcar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpU1RB-WXgc

(This is the way Vanishing Point should have ended.......)    

[aussiemuscle]

Bullitt was a B O R E H O L E !!!
The movie bored the hell out of me. The only redeeming parts were the chase scene.

i think you'll find that's the case for all our favorite 'car movies', like Gone in 60 seconds (1974), Dirty Mary Crazy Larry, Mad Max, Road Warrior, Deathproof. That's why DVDs come with a chapter/skip forward buttons.

[Kern Dog]

GONE in 60 was boring during the plot sequences. At least the chase was a L O N G  one. Mad Max? Road warrior? Not really car movies in my opinion but i liked the plots of those, DMCL was a decent flick without the chase.
DeathProof? The movie sucked ass. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much cliche Tarantino dialog. I swear that guy is a hardcore tweeker. THOSE types blab on and on about the stupidest things.

[Cooter]

Bullitt was a B O R E H O L E !!!
The movie bored the hell out of me. The only redeeming parts were the chase scene.

i think you'll find that's the case for all our favorite 'car movies', like Gone in 60 seconds (1974), Dirty Mary Crazy Larry, Mad Max, Road Warrior, Deathproof. That's why DVDs come with a chapter/skip forward buttons.

[bill440rt]

You want to see an awesome car chase?  You got 8minutes and 11 seconds to watch it?  Not muscle cars but holly crap this guy is determined.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE2i08S3YeY

That was great! 

[myk]

Whaaaa?  Mad Max and Mad Max 2 are some of the greatest movies in all of creation; they certainly don't deserve to get piled in with truly bad movies like Gone in '60 (both of them!), Junkman, Death Proof and the likes of those......"films."

[GOTWING]

just go on utube and watch bullitt's chase scene, the movie is boring. Vanishing point is very cool but dark. DMCL is my favorite, if you like these watch "Brewster McCloud" 

[wingcar]

 Wow, it's amazing how different the cars look in Bullitt when you slow the film down.........

[Fred]

    

[Ghoste]

I do not remember that scene in Cars.

[1974dodgecharger]

I do not remember that scene in Cars.

slow it down frame by frame its there........

[Ghoste]

How far in?

[Bob T]

How far in?

( sound of Ghoste's chain getting pulled ) 

Just some internet pic mashup
There is a Bullitt Charger and Mcqueen slot car set though
And this one a mate got me recently on a trip over there

[Ghoste]

Ah, I couldn't think of any city scenes but I didn't sit riveted through the entire thing either. lol

[GOTWING]

 

[rayderluvr]

Anyone remember Hot Rod (aka  Rebel of the Road)? I remember loving it when I saw it as a kid.....

[Cooter]

Anyone remember Hot Rod (aka  Rebel of the Road)? I remember loving it when I saw it as a kid.....

Are you referring to the 1979 Flick starring Gregg Henry, and the '41 Willy's coupe with 426 Hemi?

If so, I watched it and have it on DVD...Love that flick..."Munns Root beer"...

[Ghoste]

I think my favorite part of that movie has to be the opening sequences when he brings the Plymouth in on the hook and then makes her beautiful.  Then a little tuning on the carb and out to the sunlight and drive off.

[Cooter]

I can't tell you how many actually thought Krylon Spray bomb paint could shine like that 'ol black '65 did in "Hot Rod"...Um...Yeah, and Hollywood had nothing to do with it..

[Ghoste]

Haha, yeah too true.  You have to admit it's the gearheads version of a warm fuzzy scene though.

[Cooter]

One of My favorite scenes from that movie was when he pulls out on the street against the purple car and dude says "Hey, how much we goin for Brian?"...Brian says "$100/gear"...


Damn have I used that line more than once in my old mustang back in the day.

Another scene favorite of mine is when he's in the bar and dude comes up and asks Brian "Hey whatcha runnin in that willys out there?"
Brian, Says "Black and Decker aquarium pump, J2"...