Those great 1970 V code Chargers

[Ghoste]

Very interesting suggestion.  I wonder how far back the decision was made to include a fresh air option on those cars?  Does it predate the option on the 69 B-bodies?

[nascarxx29]

  The 69 Hurst Madera Charger had a air grabber hood & door scoops.Before the Chrysler line up models

[Back N Black]

Back then ma Mopar was changing body styles every 2 years but they carried the charger over for another year. I think it was to get rid of the parts left over from the 69 daytona. Slap the hood and fenders from the daytona on the 70 and add the big chrome bumper to replace the nose. The 70 did come with more option than 68 and 69, but they also made very basic chargers, no upper door pads,bench seat and the 500 models were nothing more than an emblem. So i think they did take a risk pushing the body style another year and i'm not sure if it payed off.

[Ghoste]

Was there not some other issue about the fuselage style B-bodies not being ready yet?

[Back N Black]

Quote stolen from the internet.

(Burton Bouwkamp wrote: "The Charger sales nosedive in 1970 was caused by the introduction of the Challenger. The Dodge merchandising focus on the new Challenger reduced the marketing and merchandising efforts on the 1970 Charger.")

[Dodge Don]

My understanding was the 70 was already in development and the 69 Daytona piggybacked on that development using the upcoming 70 front clip. I think the wrap-around bumper was already part of the plan and was continued on the 3rd gen models.

[Ghoste]

Thats what I thought too.  The Daytona, although planned, was rushed ahead and made a 69 model instead of a 70?

[hemigeno]

The Daytona, although planned, was rushed ahead and made a 69 model instead of a 70?

In a whole lot of factory documentation, the Daytona was actually referred to as the "F-Series Race Car" - with the '69 Charger 500 referenced as the "E-Series Race Car".  Pushing the Daytona out as a '69 model year probably had as much to do with the fact that Creative Industries would have NEVER been able to complete the conversions between the time the '70 Charger actually went into production and the inaugural Talladega NASCAR race held on September 14th.  They couldn't have built 500 pre-production 70 Chargers any easier than they could retrofit '70 Charger front sheet metal to a '69 Charger chassis.

[Ghoste]

So basically the race car program can almost be looked on as a separate entity that has little to do with the production cars, the models they emulate are coincidence?

[jobbless]

When I was younger.. 16-17 I didn't believe they made them.. I know where there is a orange 70 R/T 6PACK 4 SPEED PISTOL GRIP CAR... I have known the guy since I was 15. I always tried to buy it. And gave him a hard time about it sitting out. At least he has it in the garage now. He also has 2 68s and a 66 hemi satellite..
He is a good guy.. just not interested in selling anything..  he always gave me hell for not hooking up my kick down linkage.. I always had it wired about 3/4 of the way back...

[hemigeno]

So basically the race car program can almost be looked on as a separate entity that has little to do with the production cars, the models they emulate are coincidence?

Well, there was a connection between production models and racecars (unlike today's version of NASCAR), but the Aero program was all about "what will it take for us to go faster via reduced drag rather than engine horsepower?".  That held true for the C500, Daytona and to some degree the Superbird programs - with the latter being somewhat hamstrung by the fact that Plymouth's styling division had a say in how the car was designed/built.

It is true, however, that apart from the front clip, no one could ever have told a '68 Charger racecar from a '69 Charger or from a '70 Charger.  There was zero connection to the street models any deeper than the exterior skin.  Nichels Engineering did make advances in their fabrication means & methods during that same timeperiod, so there are certain chassis that can be dated or identified as having been built during one particular model year or another -- but the race chassis themselves were never considered to be any particular model year's corporate offerings.  Most cars out on the track were re-skinned hand-me-downs from previous years, except for the well-funded factory teams and a few independents with deep pockets.

I'm not sure if I'm answering the question you asked or just babbling away here, so feel free to shut me up anytime...

[Ghoste]

Lol, it's quite a tangent from the original question but its an intersting one all the same so babble away.

[nascarxx29]

This letter mentions the daytona 500 as a 70 model

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=charger+daytona+classified&start=266&um=1&hl=en&biw=1422&bih=720&tbm=isch&tbnid=5Ysly-oFHoI1xM:&imgrefurl=http://www.talladegaspoilerregistry.com/2012/03/05/ford-vs-dodge-advertisements/&docid=QGkBMBDBnHjM4M&imgurl=http://www.talladegaspoilerregistry.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Dodge-Daytona-752x1024.jpg&w=752&h=1024&ei=fOcNUO6tJKfD6gGt0IBw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=857&vpy=161&dur=8743&hovh=262&hovw=192&tx=84&ty=150&sig=103379887325109179797&page=14&tbnh=167&tbnw=105&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:266,i:231

[DAY CLONA]

70 Chargers are the best of the 2nd gens...but the 70 Daytona's are the epitome of the Charger Legacy.

70 V code Daytona

Mike

[DAY CLONA]

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[DAY CLONA]

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[doctor4766]

70 Chargers are the best of the 2nd gens...but the 70 Daytona's are the epitome of the Charger Legacy.

70 V code Daytona

Mike

Forgive my ignorance, but is that a '70 Daytona without a factory flush rear window or a clone of some description?

[chargerdemetrios]

I think that the 1970 Charger is the ULTIMATE 2nd generation charger.

I used to be a fan of the almighty 1969 Charger, but not so much anymore.  I think that the 1970 Charger is the ULTIMATE second gen Charger.

With the 1970 model, you get better seats, better looking rear-end with the chrome trim wrapping around the tail lights on the non-base models (which was copied on the 2012 Chargers rear end), available high-impact colors, and lastly the 1970 is the ONLY year with the pistol grip hurst shifter (which looks incredible if ordered with the floor console).

I actually like the large-mouth grill on the 1970.  I think the split grill on the 1969 looks tired over time.

Just my $.02.

I am a cuda owner who would love to own a 70 Charger 500 4-speed, but cannot find an affordable one!

[b5blue]

Without intending to V code is kinda what I've ended up building my 70 to! 440 six pack w HP exh. manifolds, 145K TC, 8 3/4-3.23 axle, HD bars and springs (Even the little extra steel plates on the LCA bump stop pads.) and soon a conversion to front disk brakes. 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

I love 'em....  

My 1st (circa 1985)

In the late 70's, there was a guy in my town (in MA) who had a white 4 speed 6-pack Charger with no vinyl & I always thought that it was a slick color for that car.   

[nascarxx29]

I got a unclaimed buildsheet for a white V code charger

[nascarxx29]

[charger_fan_4ever]

I don't think it was left over tona parts for the 70's as if thats the case they would have used the 69 dash and sterring column and a lot of other 69 parts and not one off 70 only charger parts.

[6pkrtse]

My 70' gets plenty of attention every where I go even without any sixpack scoops.

[nascarxx29]

    Those Longitudinal pin stripes indicate your car as six pack