Why is everybody so FAT???

[Steve P.]

"Sorry guys, I screwed up the "quote reply" thingy all to hell and back.
I was referring to Steve P's post 69. Damn man.....I can't see the freakin' keyboard through my waterworks here. Our families could be dopplegangers..........it's like a mirror......a soul ripping mirror. It breaks and breaks an keeps breaking. You and me same same....your Mrs. MS.....mine Fahr's.
I feel you bro."

I hear ya buddy... I feel and am sorry for your pain as well...

69FINDER,  The topic is (WHY IS EVERYBODY SO FAT). It goes right into fat people in powered chairs in the stores.  My remarks are due to the many remarks I hear on a regular basis about parking in HANDICAPPED spaces and that my wife (HAS NOTHING WRONG WITH HER). She was actually turned in by an old neighbor. I had a private eye taking pictures of me and had to take a shitty deal after the threat of taking a picture to a judge of me with my arms leaning on an open hood and looking at an engine at a buddies car lot... 

Simply put, people often look at others as if we are screwing the system. Like I said, my wife was turned in. We had to bring in tons of doctors reports and fight it!! I was forced to take a shit settlement.

The people you see in powered chairs that are fat may NOT have been fat at all before they were hurt.. It is really far and few between that people are so fat that it is the cause of them not being able to walk.. Something has usually happened that they cannot exercise or they have something going on... Life is not so simple for many of us anymore...

[ACUDANUT]

But why is our wifes sooo FAT

[Steve P.]

Mine isn't at all!!! 5'8" and 126-128.... 

[ACUDANUT]

I hate you.

[moparstuart]

 

I hate you.

[Tilar]

The handicap parking and power scooter in stores is a hard one to pass judgement on because I know people on both sides of the fence. We have one bus driver that is way overweight. Probably 400lbs if she's an ounce. Her husband IS on some sort of disability and has one of those handicap placards that hang on the mirror for his truck, which she takes with her everywhere she goes so her fat ass doesn't have to walk across a parking lot. She also rides those scooters at Walmart... which by the way puts you in mind of what a pig would look like trying to ride a ground mole rodeo style.   

[Steve P.]

Well here's a fact for you. Anyone can use the scooters at Walmart or anywhere else. It is complete BS that they do if they are taking that away from someone that actually needs it, but they are provided for anyone who feels they need it.

The handicap placard is another story... If her drivers license number is NOT on the placard, she can be busted for parking there. This pisses me off more than you can believe..

Another thing that burns my ass is these people that drive their spouse to the store. Park in handicap and sit in the fucking car... The driver is the person with the handicap and if they are going to SIT IN THE CAR, they can park ANYWHERE!!!!!!!!!   I have had words with many people doing just that..

Another thing is handicapped people leaving their carts IN the parking space. Just because they have a small car does NOT mean the next handicap does. Just today I had to get out and move a cart from the woman that had just pulled out... U have a long truck and I pull all the way in. She left her cart dead in front of her little Buick.  I know sometimes it's hard to walk the carts to the return, but there is plenty of space to the sides where any vehicle can still get right in.....  MAKES ME NUCKING FUTS!!!!!!!!

[Tilar]

Only reason she rides the scooter is because she's too damn lazy to walk, which is how she got in this condition in the first place. They may make them available to everyone, but I've seen people that really needed them and ended up walking because there were none available.

[Steve P.]

Like I said, it is hard to know who really needs help and who is taking advantage. When I see someone doing the WRONG THING, I have no trouble at all giving them hell about it.. Probably once every month I see people (STANDING), (parked in handicap and sitting in the car), and I give them hell.. If this was a van with a wheelchair lift I would expect it, but for a man to sit in the car in handicap parking is outrageous. I damn sure let them know and I have called the coppers on them as well...

I am not alone either. I have had people give me hell as they saw me park in handicap and just because I wasn't on a cane or walker that day, gave me hell thinking I was using someone else's placard. Once in a restaurant a guy came in asking who owned the white F-250 in the handicap spot. I had forgotten to hang the placard. The guy even asked me to prove I was the driver and matched my license with the placard number. He then apologized and walked away. I apologized to him for wasting his time and thanked him for caring.

The fact is, when I know I am going to be hurting before I can get back to my truck I park in handicap. If I am making a quick stop and feel pretty good, (not often enough), I park where ever I can not taking that space up. I have been that guy looking for a spot for a long time and had to cut short a shopping trip on many occasions due to pain. Sometimes it's all I can do to put my goods on the conveyor and into the truck.. Once I even had to have them put my cart in a freezer so I could leave and called my daughter to go get my groceries.

Now that you know much more of my story, and I can walk, think of the guys and gals in a wheelchair.. They have it one hell of alllllot worse than my wife and I...   

[A383Wing]

my wife has a handicap placard in her car, and we got 1 for the truck as well. There are times that her knee is so bad, she has to use it. When she can walk pretty good, she parks elsewhere

I was sitting at Arby's last year eating lunch, looking through the window I saw a Ford F-250 that was raised above stock. He quickly pulled into the parking lot and parked in the handicap spot, he then put his placard in his mirror, got out of his truck and headed straight for the restroom. He finished his business in there, got back into his truck, pulled the placard off the mirror, and drove away without purchasing anything from the restaurant.

people like that piss me off....he walked and got out of that truck pretty good....I guess his handicap was stupidity

Bryan  (off my soap box now)

[Kern Dog]

Since this post went off topic a little, I'll take it a step further. I'd like to read from others if you agree with my observations:
People with handicap placards are often some of the most annoying drivers. Whatever disability that many of them have must carry over to their brain. Many drive below the limit, are S L O W to respond to a green light, are afraid to merge and seem unreasonably cautious. I don't mean to pick on the disadvantaged. Maybe their pain clouds their judgement.

[TK73]

The handicap placard is another story... If her drivers license number is NOT on the placard, she can be busted for parking there. This pisses me off more than you can believe..

I have a temp WA placard due to spine surgery.

WA doesn't put plate # on temp card (red placard-blue is perm) and only ONE temp placard so I have to remember it when I switch cars. If you have perm you get one for each vehicle.
WA does give an ID card you have to carry with that matches the placard #.

I'm noticing the other "gimps" more nowadays as I sometimes run across full HC parking spaces...


I'm REALLY diggin the preferential parking spaces... just NOT the reason I have one... 

[TK73]

Since this post went off topic a little, I'll take it a step further. I'd like to read from others if you agree with my observations:
People with handicap placards are often some of the most annoying drivers. Whatever disability that many of them have must carry over to their brain. Many drive below the limit, are S L O W to respond to a green light, are afraid to merge and seem unreasonably cautious. I don't mean to pick on the disadvantaged. Maybe their pain clouds their judgement.

After surgery I have some residual numbness in my feet and a bit of a leg mobility issue. OK to drive, difficult to walk real far (causes back pain) BUT the numbness affects the pressure I have on the gas so I seem to be "hammering" the throttle a bit lately  



[ just kidding, being real cautious as I don't want to smash my cool cars into some POS Honda or chebby ]

[Steve P.]

TK, mine is the same only in the left leg. I have much damage from blown out discs and 3 big surgeries.. (Before laser).. I will sometime be walking along just fine and land on the ground due to my leg not moving as I tell it to. No more stick shifts for me... I also do not go to car shows on grass anymore. The last time I went to BIG DADDY's I spent the next two weeks in bed dropping everything I had for pain down my throat.

In Florida the placard has or drivers license number on it.. Also the stamped plate has a special registration with whomever is registered to use the handicapped space.. My wife rarely drives anymore due to not trusting her legs, so no real need for her to also have one.. Though she is on the truck plate too....

Sorry about taking this off track, sort of.

[TK73]

All in good conversation...

Both legs are a bit "off" but the right is a little worse for me... Gaining feeling back a bit at a time and for me I hope to have most back in a few months, if things don't go sideways again...  Don't want to be a Para...

Fortunately I have not fallen yet. In Physical Therapy they showed me how to do "fall recovery" then decided not to teach me as the surgery was in T4 and it is REALLY bad spot to rotate or push with arms when you try to get up. Cutting through the muscle there is bad... not to mention the cutting into the vertebrae and replacing part of it with plastic.

They just kept telling me "DON'T FALL"   



PS: No manuals for me now either... glad both cars are auto but selling my 4spd Ram...
     

[Mike DC]

The waters really get muddy when you take into account the chicken & egg issues with obesity & disability. Each is capable of causing and snowballing the other.  

After a few decades of gradually declining health, it can be difficult to judge which factor should get more of the blame for the whole picture.  

[Lennard]

Since this post went off topic a little, I'll take it a step further. I'd like to read from others if you agree with my observations:
People with handicap placards are often some of the most annoying drivers. Whatever disability that many of them have must carry over to their brain. Many drive below the limit, are S L O W to respond to a green light, are afraid to merge and seem unreasonably cautious. I don't mean to pick on the disadvantaged. Maybe their pain clouds their judgement.

[Steve P.]

Of course their will be those that are just plain lazy and those that have grown beyond the capabilities of their own bodies. Like everything there are allllways some. What my point is behind all of this is simple. None of us ASKED to be damaged. None of us TRIED to be damaged.  I can give very many more examples of things you'll never see that cause people to be they way they are.. 

The best thing I can tell all who really question those of us in chairs or fat or fatter than you are is, be happy it is not you and don't be too awfully surprised if some day you aren't hurt and in the same position.. I was in great shape before I blew 2 discs out working my ass off... There wasn't anything I couldn't or wouldn't do... Count your lucky stars.....

[TK73]

I was in great shape before I blew 2 discs out working my ass off... There wasn't anything I couldn't or wouldn't do... Count your lucky stars.....

It is a reality check when something happens and you get plenty of time to re-appraise your situation.  No more 6'6" and bulletproof for me... just 6'6"

This is one of the reasons I get SO hacked at people who think everybody on welfare/disability is just lazy.  Some of my neighbors are disabled vets who can't work AT ALL and have to rely on our social programs to pay rent and eat.  

Saw a bumper sticker: "Work harder, millions on welfare need you too" or some BS like that.  Just plain IGNORANT.  That attitude shows you either don't know people who need help or have never had an issue yourself.  HOPE to hell somebody like that gets to EXPERIENCE what those with serious medical issues have.


Then the whole citing of those ripping of the system is not incredibly valid. Those who scam the system are such a SMALL number they don't really impact the overall help given.

The last year I have been waking up Grateful I woke up !!  The last 3 months I also add that I am fortunate to be walking too !!  


"I just wanna celebrate another day of living..."

[Steve P.]

I hear ya TK.. It was a big wake up for me as well.. After 2 surgeries and tons of therapy, I thought I was going back to work. I was feeling pretty good and doing more therapy than they said to. Before the doctor would let me go back to work I had to take a test. Physical Capacity Test. (SPT for short). 5 hours of lifting and walking weighted down. Lots of hand to eye stuff and laps around the facility. The very last thing I had to do was crawl across the floor and get up. Hands to my side and back down across the floor again. This was to be done 5 times... I told the woman testing me that doing so was not a good idea for me as I knew it would put me in pain.. She said: You have to at least try it or I cannot evaluate any part of the test!  So I got down and crawled across the floor. Just as I got to the bookshelf I was to get up at, her phone rang. She turned to answer the phone as I was using the bookshelf to get up. It came over on top of me.... It took 2 people to get me up. I left there in tears full of pain...

After another MRI, I had not only blown out the 2 discs that I had previously had fixed, but another above them...  3.5 years ago I was fused. It took much of the pain away for some of the time, but still have more than I can deal with about half of the time...

Dr. told me I would NEVER work again.. This same surgeon quit his practice and went to school to study law so he could go after insurance companies that lead people down the road I was stuck with.. Yes, it's a much longer story, but even the surgeon wanted me to sew.....

[TK73]

Oh man... that so SUCKS you're going through a painful, exhausting eval and that happens... Hard to not get PISSED about that kinda thing.  THEN not able to work anymore...

I'm fortunate that I can still work at least PT with all the treatment and meds.  My job is SO COOL, they do a lot to help when somebody gets sick.  Been a year this week and maybe another year before we see remission, IF we see remission.

If I recover from this I will be able to work FT again and walk like before. Near-death medical issues really wake ya up to a new view...

[Steve P.]

Absolutely......

[nvrbdn]

since i have aged, things dont work as well. and im pretty healthy. arthritis here and there. every day i wake up with a new sore area that wasnt there yesterday. when i work on something and take a break, it gets hard to get back up. the feet hurt, the back hurts, the legs hurt.  i cant go jogging any more or my feet will be so sore i cant walk the next day. so naturally the exercising has slowed down alot. then when i go camping like i did this last weekend its BBQ all weekend with ribs and burgers. had 4 kids and 6 grandkids camping. running the smoker all weekend and keeping the grills going. horseshoes doesnt take alot of physical action, but in needs alot of brews to keep the stamina up. potato salad with baked beans, fried potatos with chopped up ham and seasonings for breakfast for the whole crew. and a plate full of toast. yea, i may have put on a couple, but i had a great time with all my family in the camp ground.

[Cooter]

I was in great shape before I blew 2 discs out working my ass off... There wasn't anything I couldn't or wouldn't do... Count your lucky stars.....

It is a reality check when something happens and you get plenty of time to re-appraise your situation.  No more 6'6" and bulletproof for me... just 6'6"

This is one of the reasons I get SO hacked at people who think everybody on welfare/disability is just lazy.  Some of my neighbors are disabled vets who can't work AT ALL and have to rely on our social programs to pay rent and eat.  

Saw a bumper sticker: "Work harder, millions on welfare need you too" or some BS like that.  Just plain IGNORANT.  That attitude shows you either don't know people who need help or have never had an issue yourself.  HOPE to hell somebody like that gets to EXPERIENCE what those with serious medical issues have.

Amen. Amen....

[Vainglory, Esq.]

I don't think anybody reads my articles anyway, but whatever.

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