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Why is everybody so FAT???

Started by RECHRGD, July 23, 2012, 09:38:35 AM

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RECHRGD

When I was growing up in the 50's & 60's I don't remember many obese people.  Today it seems to be the norm (at least in Spokane) and I don't get it.  People get handicapped parking permits because their fat.  They use the little electric carts in stores because their fat.  I see 300 pound women with their 150 pound 10 year old kids all the time.  Fat teenagers are everywhere and seem to think they look good.  I guess there's no P.E. in schools anymore and people spend more time on computers than doing anything physical, but geeeeze people need to wake up.
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chargerboy69

I will be the first to admit I am a wee bit on the husky side. For me the ease of running through McDonalds drive though while working or grabbing a pizza on the way home is handy. 

I agree there seems to be more people out there with weight issues than there used to be.  I am guessing the ease, cost and taste of fast food helps contribute to the weight gain.
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Todd Wilson

Life is much easier then it used to be. Most of us are not working as hard as people did in the 50's and 60's.
We have tv and computers/internet now. We all have AC in the house.  No need to go outside and do anything in the summer.

I also think the chemicals and preservatives in foods are also causing bad things. In the old days stuff was made fresh.
I also think fast food has caused a lot of it as well.

We as a people are also not doing anything in moderation anymore.  My grandma has told stories of back in the day of going to town from the farm on a saturday evening and get a soda pop as a treat. Now we buy cases of pop and stop at the conv. store for a big giant 44oz pop and drink that stuff all the time instead of maybe one small glass every week or 2.


Todd


RECHRGD

All true Todd.  I remember walking about two miles to the local burger joint with my best friend to split a huge order of greasy, salty fries for 25 cents.  I bet the walk burned more calories than what the fries put into us....
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Cooter

For the same reason the Chinese live longer than us...They get a 2 hour "Nap break" in the middle of the work day..Try that here and see how that works out for ya'.

Back in the 50's  you didn't have to come into work every day looking over your back to see who had the next knife, or whether or not you were gonna lose your job after 35 years on it.

STRESS leads to people wanting to "Get back to the office before anybody sees me having a good time on my lunch break" and eating all kinds of Bullsh*t food for lunches.
Most only get 1/2 hour.

Then, you didn't go home and have to hear about how your daughter/son just went to their High school and attempted to shoot the place up because some off the bastard kids were frickin' picking on them. I can remember growing up, I was the biggest of the kids, so I got to be the one everybody used as a "Guage" so to speak.
Most figured if they showed the other little helliuns that they could beat up the big kid, then they'd leave them alone for sure. Most times it backfired as they tended to get their asses kicked anyway.

And last but not least, if your born with a big ass, your gonna die with one. You can fight it all you want, your destiny is to NEVER be as thin as that little prick that relentlessly f*cked with you back in the day, just take solace in the fact, you do the best you can.

I eat sometimes four times less than my brother. He weighs 180 Lbs and is 6ft tall. i'm 6ft. tall, came from the same parents, yet, I'm 280 Lbs. You tell me? I guess Brother took after Pops side of family and i was the unlucky opne to have mama's short and round features. I gave up giving anything resembling a sh*t what the hell others thought of me a long time ago. A female taught me a valuable lesson. I lost 80 lbs and was wearing my brothers size 30 jeans back in high school over a 3month period. Starved myself damn near to death...the B*tch wouldn't have anything to do with me anyway, even though I suddenly became popular after that. So be happy if your a little "Husky" and f*ck what everybody else thinks.
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RECHRGD

Cooter, there has always been bullies and just plain mean people.  People have always had employment concerns and stress.  Yes, genetics is a factor in some cases, but the ever increasing numbers of obese would lead me to look at life style choices as the main factor...
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Cooter

And as long as people look at it that way they will forever be asking the same question you did....
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

nvrbdn

i remember back in the day (50's & early 60's) that the hamburger joint was a treat. i grew up in a home where both parents worked and were not struggling. born in 56, so most of the memories were the 60's, but a hamburger was a treat. a milk shake on sunday night on the way home from church was a treat. complete home cooked meals ate at the dinner table with the whole family. then out to play. you could let your kids run till dark without the fears we have today. now its grab a snack of pizza rolls in the microwave. doughnuts instead of ceral for breakfast. families dont do sit down meals. i see the way my own kids do it. eat in front of the t.v. snack all night. if kids dont see koolaid or soda in the fridge, there is nothing to drink. oh my god, i cant drink water. :rotz:
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RECHRGD

I think economics play into it as well.  The price of healthy food to take home and cook has skyrocketed to the point that it's probably cheaper to eat the junk food....
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nvrbdn

not just probably, it is more expensive. dang, go buy fruit and vegies. its through the roof. then wheat bread over white. low fat foods are expensive. all the healthy stuff is much more. you can go to the dollar store and get a package of cookies  and feed three kids breakfast for a buck and a half. try to feed them good food and see what it costs. and its easy. doesnt take any time to toss the cookies on the food bar. :shruggy:
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RallyeMike

Though all food costs have risen lately, gotta disagree with that: Pounds per pound, my grocery bill is much less when walk out with lots of fruits and veggies vs. beer, chips, and cookies. All pre-prepared foods are expensive, especially low fat, etc. The fresh produce is a bargain compared to anything else in the store.

I think the answer to why obesity is rising has been given and is pretty much accepted: Economic and social changes which have reduced physical activity and created more access to, and acceptabilty of crappy food:

1970: Kick ball and mom's home-prepared meal.

2012: Computer games and Dad brings home McDonalds becasue mom is working late again.

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I'm posting something that makes sense, to me at least. You can choose to agree or disagree, because what it comes down to is that everyone is entitled to their own opinions & choose what they want to believe as valid info or discard it as a crock of s**t. Having said that, I'll eat something healthy that could be organic, or if I feel like it, I'll eat a big hamburger with a side of fries & a few cold beers. There has to be a balance, you can't survive simply on eating processed garbage that's been genetically altered by Monsanto in a lab.

Food companies are large corporations that exist to make a profit that will "design" their goods to sell, not sit on a shelf in a store or be given away as a charity. If you sell fried pork skins for a living you're going to put the most of whatever the government declares "safe" in your snack food to make it more appealing to whoever might buy it. If you sell deep fried oreo cookies dipped in monkey lard, but you can sell more if they're covered with bacon & caramel, then that's what you sell. It's up to the people buying & consuming to do what is best for their own health.

The unfortunate part, is that people should be more aware & have easier access to the true info regarding what they're shoving in their mouths, but they don't.


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Secrets of the Processed Food Industry Revealed

http://www.thefoodenvironment.com/2011/12/secrets-of-the-processed-food-industry-revealed.html

On a recent of episode of 60 Minutes, reporter Morley Safer visits a company you've probably never heard.  The company called Givaudan it turns out is the world's largest flavoring company.

Flavoring is an incredibly important component of creating processed foods, because it allows the industry to create products with the flavors of delicious high-quality ingredients, despite none being present.  The better a product tastes, the more likely we will be to buy it, so it's no wonder that creating these flavors is a big business.

As the 60 Minutes story reveals companies use sugar, fat, salt, and other flavors created in chemistry labs, that human biology craves, to create pleasurable experiences for eaters.  Employees of the company, out on a trip to look for the next new flavor for soda, admit to Safer that they are trying to create flavors that are irresistible and addictive.

For this reason many in public health argue that the processed foods industry is a big part of the reason for our world's obesity epidemic.  Processed food companies make more money by selling more products and they do this by designing these items to be irresistible.  Consuming more processed foods of course means more calories and that leads to weight gain.  This is why many public health advocates would like to place limits on companies' abilities to use sugars, fats, and salt in their foods.

I doubt however, that many would argue that food companies want consumers to be overweight.  Weight gain instead, is simply an unintended consequence of maximizing sales through the creation of cheap, high calorie, hyper-palatable addictive foods.  Safer asks Givaudan VP of Global Strategy and Business Development, Bob Pellegrino, about this issue.  Referring to obesity, Safer asks if the food industry wants his company to create flavors so that people want more.  Pellegrino answered, "I don't think it's creating a desire for moreness, as well as it's a desire for memorability, so that people will repeat the purchase of the product and enjoy them."  Do you see the difference?  I don't either.

I recently had the opportunity to visit the McCormick Company.  When you hear the name McCormick, you probably think about the small jars of powdered spices that are permanent residents in your kitchen cabinets.  You might be surprised to learn though, as I was, that spices make up only half of McCormick's business, the other half is devoted to developing flavors for the processed food industry. 

Our guide was sensitive to criticism of her companies business-after all did we want them to be making foods that taste bad.  She was also very upset about rules that were limiting companies' abilities to use trans-fats and plans for regulations on salts, because they would make her job so much more difficult.  We were told that the company also works on creating healthy processed foods and would love to be doing more, but despite what people say they want, they just don't want to buy them.

Understanding how our biology works and how food companies use this knowledge to create processed foods is an important first step to becoming healthier.  By cooking our own foods using real whole ingredients, we can develop flavors and make delicious healthy dishes that can't be rivaled by all of the food technology in the world. 

Despite this our society relies heavily on these processed products that are a major contributor to the risk for disease.  Unhealthy processed foods are highly prevalent in the food environment and cooking and eating healthy is decidedly more difficult.  Certainly companies have the right to make processed fodos taste good, but when they purposefully make unhealthy foods addictive do we need to draw a line?  What do you think?
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BananaDan

Quote from: nvrbdn on July 23, 2012, 11:29:28 AM
i remember back in the day (50's & early 60's) that the hamburger joint was a treat. i grew up in a home where both parents worked and were not struggling. born in 56, so most of the memories were the 60's, but a hamburger was a treat. a milk shake on sunday night on the way home from church was a treat. complete home cooked meals ate at the dinner table with the whole family. then out to play. you could let your kids run till dark without the fears we have today. now its grab a snack of pizza rolls in the microwave. doughnuts instead of ceral for breakfast. families dont do sit down meals. i see the way my own kids do it. eat in front of the t.v. snack all night. if kids dont see koolaid or soda in the fridge, there is nothing to drink. oh my god, i cant drink water. :rotz:

We only keep water in the house for ourselves (except for the occasional beer or wine).  Our son (3 1/2 y.o.) drinks 2% Milk 3x per day and either water, apple juice or orange juice in between.  We dilute his juices 50/50 with water.  Drinks are one of the main culprits in my eyes filled with empty calories from all of the sugar (both natural in juices and high fructose corn syrup added to sodas and other drinks).  Excessive salt/sodium is the next issue which is mainly high in fast food and take-out/restaurant food.  We try to keep it down as much as we can when we cook, but we do take-out probably twice per week and we always find ourselves drinking tons of water afterwards from all of the sodium.  It stresses your heart and causes you to retain water.  Lastly there's the carbs and fat, again - high in fast food and restaurants/take-out.

To be honest, it's easy to know what's right/wrong, but tough to implement.  I'm a big guy and I know what's right/wrong but like others have said, eating healthy is more expensive and time consuming and difficult to pull off when both parents are pulling 50-60 hour work weeks.  My biggest issue is lunch, we typically eat healthy at home as much as we can.  The extent of my lunch "break" is usually the time to run down to the cafe in our complex to grab a sandwich or a couple of slices of pizza and run back to my desk. I also know I should be at the gym at least 4-5 times per week, but when I get home with my son @ 6:30, make his dinner, feed him, bath, stories, bed, we usually are eating dinner around 9:00-9:30.

But, if any of you were wondering, yes - I do eat a banana every morning for breakfast.   :2thumbs:
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Quote from: Cooter on July 23, 2012, 11:15:57 AM
For the same reason the Chinese live longer than us...They get a 2 hour "Nap break" in the middle of the work day..Try that here and see how that works out for ya'.

Back in the 50's  you didn't have to come into work every day looking over your back to see who had the next knife, or whether or not you were gonna lose your job after 35 years on it.

STRESS leads to people wanting to "Get back to the office before anybody sees me having a good time on my lunch break" and eating all kinds of Bullsh*t food for lunches.
Most only get 1/2 hour.

Then, you didn't go home and have to hear about how your daughter/son just went to their High school and attempted to shoot the place up because some off the bastard kids were frickin' picking on them. I can remember growing up, I was the biggest of the kids, so I got to be the one everybody used as a "Guage" so to speak.
Most figured if they showed the other little helliuns that they could beat up the big kid, then they'd leave them alone for sure. Most times it backfired as they tended to get their asses kicked anyway.

And last but not least, if your born with a big ass, your gonna die with one. You can fight it all you want, your destiny is to NEVER be as thin as that little prick that relentlessly f*cked with you back in the day, just take solace in the fact, you do the best you can.

I eat sometimes four times less than my brother. He weighs 180 Lbs and is 6ft tall. i'm 6ft. tall, came from the same parents, yet, I'm 280 Lbs. You tell me? I guess Brother took after Pops side of family and i was the unlucky opne to have mama's short and round features. I gave up giving anything resembling a sh*t what the hell others thought of me a long time ago. A female taught me a valuable lesson. I lost 80 lbs and was wearing my brothers size 30 jeans back in high school over a 3month period. Starved myself damn near to death...the B*tch wouldn't have anything to do with me anyway, even though I suddenly became popular after that. So be happy if your a little "Husky" and f*ck what everybody else thinks.


Cooter is there anything positive in you life??  :D

Dino

Quote from: Old Moparz on July 23, 2012, 01:13:59 PM
I'm posting something that makes sense, to me at least. You can choose to agree or disagree, because what it comes down to is that everyone is entitled to their own opinions & choose what they want to believe as valid info or discard it as a crock of s**t. Having said that, I'll eat something healthy that could be organic, or if I feel like it, I'll eat a big hamburger with a side of fries & a few cold beers. There has to be a balance, you can't survive simply on eating processed garbage that's been genetically altered by Monsanto in a lab.

Food companies are large corporations that exist to make a profit that will "design" their goods to sell, not sit on a shelf in a store or be given away as a charity. If you sell fried pork skins for a living you're going to put the most of whatever the government declares "safe" in your snack food to make it more appealing to whoever might buy it. If you sell deep fried oreo cookies dipped in monkey lard, but you can sell more if they're covered with bacon & caramel, then that's what you sell. It's up to the people buying & consuming to do what is best for their own health.

The unfortunate part, is that people should be more aware & have easier access to the true info regarding what they're shoving in their mouths, but they don't.


--------------------------------------------------------------

Secrets of the Processed Food Industry Revealed

http://www.thefoodenvironment.com/2011/12/secrets-of-the-processed-food-industry-revealed.html

On a recent of episode of 60 Minutes, reporter Morley Safer visits a company you've probably never heard.  The company called Givaudan it turns out is the world's largest flavoring company.

Flavoring is an incredibly important component of creating processed foods, because it allows the industry to create products with the flavors of delicious high-quality ingredients, despite none being present.  The better a product tastes, the more likely we will be to buy it, so it's no wonder that creating these flavors is a big business.

As the 60 Minutes story reveals companies use sugar, fat, salt, and other flavors created in chemistry labs, that human biology craves, to create pleasurable experiences for eaters.  Employees of the company, out on a trip to look for the next new flavor for soda, admit to Safer that they are trying to create flavors that are irresistible and addictive.

For this reason many in public health argue that the processed foods industry is a big part of the reason for our world's obesity epidemic.  Processed food companies make more money by selling more products and they do this by designing these items to be irresistible.  Consuming more processed foods of course means more calories and that leads to weight gain.  This is why many public health advocates would like to place limits on companies' abilities to use sugars, fats, and salt in their foods.

I doubt however, that many would argue that food companies want consumers to be overweight.  Weight gain instead, is simply an unintended consequence of maximizing sales through the creation of cheap, high calorie, hyper-palatable addictive foods.  Safer asks Givaudan VP of Global Strategy and Business Development, Bob Pellegrino, about this issue.  Referring to obesity, Safer asks if the food industry wants his company to create flavors so that people want more.  Pellegrino answered, "I don't think it's creating a desire for moreness, as well as it's a desire for memorability, so that people will repeat the purchase of the product and enjoy them."  Do you see the difference?  I don't either.

I recently had the opportunity to visit the McCormick Company.  When you hear the name McCormick, you probably think about the small jars of powdered spices that are permanent residents in your kitchen cabinets.  You might be surprised to learn though, as I was, that spices make up only half of McCormick's business, the other half is devoted to developing flavors for the processed food industry. 

Our guide was sensitive to criticism of her companies business-after all did we want them to be making foods that taste bad.  She was also very upset about rules that were limiting companies' abilities to use trans-fats and plans for regulations on salts, because they would make her job so much more difficult.  We were told that the company also works on creating healthy processed foods and would love to be doing more, but despite what people say they want, they just don't want to buy them.

Understanding how our biology works and how food companies use this knowledge to create processed foods is an important first step to becoming healthier.  By cooking our own foods using real whole ingredients, we can develop flavors and make delicious healthy dishes that can't be rivaled by all of the food technology in the world. 

Despite this our society relies heavily on these processed products that are a major contributor to the risk for disease.  Unhealthy processed foods are highly prevalent in the food environment and cooking and eating healthy is decidedly more difficult.  Certainly companies have the right to make processed fodos taste good, but when they purposefully make unhealthy foods addictive do we need to draw a line?  What do you think?

I used to live on junk food but never got fat because I didn't eat much and there's really no nutrition in this stuff.  My wife, who's a health care professional, knows all about nutrition and the lack thereof so all we eat now is whole, recognizable foods.  All the meat we buy comes from local farms, grass fed beef, no corn.  Most all our veggies come out of our own garden as well.  Sometimes I think that if you take all the products out of the store where the first or second ingredient is high fructose corn syrupe, the place will be empty.

Stuffing your face with designed foods while going for the next 5 hour tv marathon usually spells trouble.
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Tilar

It's simple. Todays lifestyle does away with physical labor. There are machines to do this and that and then there are machines that will do it all. NOTHING in todays life is hard to do. Life is just waaaayyyy too easy these days. Want to put on a new roof? DON'T swing a hammer, Get yourself a nail gun. It does the hammering for you!

To prove my point, have you ever seen a fat amish man?
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bull

One factor is a lack of self control combined with portion sizes. Eating out is a big one too. They plop a 1,600 calorie meal the size of a bowling ball in front of you at Carl's Jr. and it tastes so good you don't want to stop until it's all gone. Then you down 40-some-odd ounces of Coke on top of it. You don't have to run 10 miles a day to maintain a healthy weight if you're not downing 3,500 calories worth of corn sugar crap every 24 hours.

Todd Wilson

Quote from: Back N Black on July 23, 2012, 01:21:54 PM
Quote from: Cooter on July 23, 2012, 11:15:57 AM

Cooter is there anything positive in you life??  :D



HAHA!  Poor guy! I almost cried reading that!
:'(

Todd

nvrbdn

i just went to mcdonalds last night and got the bacon angus burger. and yep, i king sized to get the extra fries and super size soda. there must be 2000 calories there. it was  a big sandwich. but, ill just sweat it out in the garage. :rofl:
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