5.0 Charger

[SmashingPunkFan]

Has anybody ever put a foxbody style mustang 5.0 in a 2nd gen charger? how many mods need to be done?

Kinda thinking about trying it. I know for fast five they put a crate 350 chevy in it

[ChgrSteve67]

[FLG]

^Agreed!

Sorry please dont...its not like its hard to find a mopar big block, and you can get em for cheap if you look around.

Ive seen a 5.0 crammed in a Mazda 626 and thought that was cool, and was worth it (fun RWD and more power) its simply not worth it in our case, put a mopar engine under the hood.

[440]

Just find a good used engine on Craigslist, best to see it running and driving in a car though before pulling it out. It would be damn sight cheaper then trying to shoehorn a 5.0 in.

I know for fast five they put a crate 350 chevy in it

Don't believe the hype.

[SmashingPunkFan]

It was a thought. Just wondered, because I have seen a lot of switcheroo mods from tuners in muscle, to diesel in tuner. Wondering if it was a good idea (aside from the love of mopar peeps) because I wanted ford power... Still do. I am a ford person at heart.

[440]

Yeah, but putting a small block Ford in a Mopar isn't going to gain you anything.. If you want to be different go for it. The expense would far outweigh the effort in my opinion, you'd need most if not all of the ford accessories, custom engine mounts, transmission adapter unless you stuck with a ford tranny, which if so will also need to be shoehorned in, then that means custom drive shaft...... Then you run into problems like headers etc, probably need to custom make a set etc... the list goes on and on....

Money better spent elsewhere.  

If anything a 460 would give you more bang for the buck, 514 strokers are fairly cheap, but again, a Mopar engine is a more logical choice.

A 5.0 in something like an 80's Quattro would be cool.

[SmashingPunkFan]

Ok. I appreciate the thought. I just didnt know if its ever been done before

[SmashingPunkFan]

What about something like the new 6.1 hemi?

[FLG]

Few forum guys have done it, Autodynamics is one that comes to mind 

Looks cool, makes good power, reliable, and is Mopar.

[Troy]

I was planning on putting one in my Toyota 4x4 but changed directions.

For a swap into nearly any car you can't get much cheaper than a 5.0 Mustang (the older ones not the brand spanking new one). You can often find the engine - including all accessories and wiring harness - with a 5-speed attached for under $1,000 (I've seen engines alone under $400). The Mustang EFI prior to about 1992 is completely standalone so it only takes a couple of wires. Parts are dirt cheap and it's super easy to increase the power. Motor and trans mounts are relatively easy to sort out (many people already put T5s in Mopars). The two biggest hurdles (assuming you don't try to use a Mopar transmission) would probably be radiator and hoses and the proper drive shaft. Hooking up cool things like power steering and A/C starts to get involved - but they aren't necessary at the beginning.

Remember that "cheap" means DON'T TOUCH IT. Once you start tearing things apart to "build it up" you're going to spend a ton no matter what motor you put in. A modified 5.0 will still cost more than a relatively stock rebuilt or used 440 yet the 440 will be much easier to install and have way more power.

Would I put one in a Charger? No. You can find 318s and 360s for free. Step up to a 5.2 or 5.9 Magnum to get EFI and you still won't spend much as there are plenty of these in junkyards (Ram trucks, Dakotas, and Durangos from 1992-2002). Grab the A500 or A518 transmission as well and you'll pick up overdrive - or use the original 904 or 727. Remember that 360 are balanced differently than a 318 and a 5.9 Magnum is different from that so you need the right flex plate! Since these are a direct swap into a Charger you'll save money over the Ford swap just because you don't need to make things fit - although some of the other Mopar specific parts (like flywheels) are stupidly expensive at the dealer. The Magnum motors make lots of power with a few mods and can be converted to carb easily.

The newer Hemis are really cool and make the most power of the engines I've mentioned but the cost of the wiring harness is the big hurdle for me. I could do two or three Mustang 5.0 conversions for the cost of the Mopar wiring alone. Yes, you can convert them to carb but that's not exactly cheap either (and you lose half the benefit of using the motor).

If you have access to a big block transmission the best "bang for the buck" swap is either a 383 or 400 since people will practically give them away and the big block torque is the best way to get a heavy Charger moving.

Troy

[1974dodgecharger]

Has anybody ever put a foxbody style mustang 5.0 in a 2nd gen charger? how many mods need to be done?

Kinda thinking about trying it. I know for fast five they put a crate 350 chevy in it

I was thinking of putting a honda civic 4 banger engine in a 68 charger the other day and then adding turbos, NOS, and some wings, lowerered, and rev it at all the lights I see.

What do you think a good idea?

[GOTWING]

 

[Cooter]

just keep the 5.0 in the Mustang a be faster than any 2nd Gen. Charger with one. 302 isn't that big of an engine.

[Troy]

just keep the 5.0 in the Mustang a be faster than any 2nd Gen. Charger with one. 302 isn't that big of an engine.

Or that. Best idea so far! You can buy a strong running 5.0 fastback around here for under $4k. The joke at the track is "if you have a 5.0 and aren't running in the 10s you're doing something wrong". It's that easy and that cheap to do! (Full disclosure: there's an 89 in my driveway.)

However, the Charger is by far the cooler car. I care less about speed than I do about what I like. I have no intention of racing any of my Chargers. I will beat the heck out of a Mustang though - much easier to replace!

Troy

[Patronus]

What about something like the new 6.1 hemi?

add to cart  $6K

[Bobs69]

It was a thought. Just wondered, because I have seen a lot of switcheroo mods from tuners in muscle, to diesel in tuner. Wondering if it was a good idea (aside from the love of mopar peeps) because I wanted ford power... Still do. I am a ford person at heart.

Put a flat head for into one.  They're basically hemi's aren't they?  At least it would look proper.  People would really have to look twice.

5.0.  Give your head a shake!

[Cooter]

It was a thought. Just wondered, because I have seen a lot of switcheroo mods from tuners in muscle, to diesel in tuner. Wondering if it was a good idea (aside from the love of mopar peeps) because I wanted ford power... Still do. I am a ford person at heart.

Put a flat head for into one.  They're basically hemi's aren't they? 

Um,....No. Flatehead is set up Valves in block kinda like your Briggs and Stratton lawnmowers. Only after an "Ardun" [Arkus Duntov] Cylinder head replacement, will it "look" and "be" a HEMI Flathead. Of course, it would be like the early small block HEMI's with their "Massive" 270 C.I.

[71bee]

sacrilage!!  just thinking that someone out there would want to disrespect a MoPar in such a manner, makes me wanna hurl!  

Now prying a good ol' 440 into a Rustang?  ....hmmmmmmmmmm...

[FLG]

sacrilage!!  just thinking that someone out there would want to disrespect a MoPar in such a manner, makes me wanna hurl!  

Now prying a good ol' 440 into a Rustang?  ....hmmmmmmmmmm...

Your not helping with that Thermojunk 

[GOTWING]

 

[tan top]

[Chryco Psycho]

the biggest downside is you could never sell the car with a ford engine , Mopar guys would not touch it & ford guys would have no interest .
New Hemi swap is the way to go for sure

[GOTWING]

In the town i live in there was a guy in the 80's that dug gravesights that owned a red 70-71 Chevelle SS beater, he put a 440 Mopar in it, i was like why?? he made it work and sounded weird with a mopar starter coming from a Chevy

[71bee]

sacrilage!!  just thinking that someone out there would want to disrespect a MoPar in such a manner, makes me wanna hurl!  

Now prying a good ol' 440 into a Rustang?  ....hmmmmmmmmmm...

Your not helping with that Thermojunk 

I beg to differ! nothin' says MoPar like a good ol' plastic fantastic! now slappin' a sweet Thermo-quad on a 302? that would be wierd...

[bull]

Remember this thread? He caught hell for doing (sort of) the opposite.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,51402.0.html