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Started by 928007, July 18, 2012, 08:51:01 AM

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928007

 i have a rtse that needs to be restored. i also have an original sunroof top i bought off ebay 6 years ago. should i install it in the rtse.   

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

As long as it is disclosed in the future, sure.

Paul G

No. Keep it original. Mod up a less rare one.  
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41husk

It is your car, if a RT/SE with a sunroof is the way you want it, then install it.  I wouldn't if it were mine :Twocents:  That being said, I own a Daytona clone that started life as a 69 triple black RT/SE :shruggy:
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  go for it , but do it right   :Twocents:
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XS29LA47V21

Quote from: Paul G on July 18, 2012, 09:02:41 AM
No. Keep it original. Mod up a less rare one.  

I agree, "clone" up something less rare. :Twocents:

Ghoste

One more vote for cloning up a different car.

bill440rt

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Mytur Binsdirti

A sunroof is one of those things you use a few times & when the novelty wears off you stop using it. If you have big hair or are 6' or taller, the loss of the headroom needed for the sunroof will make the car feel chopped. But, if you are "vertically challenged" that would be less of an issue. How about just selling the sunroof & using the money towards the restoration?

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Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 18, 2012, 10:38:03 AM
A sunroof is one of those things you use a few times & when the novelty wears off you stop using it. If you have big hair or are 6' or taller, the loss of the headroom needed for the sunroof will make the car feel chopped. But, if you are "vertically challenged" that would be less of an issue. How about just selling the sunroof & using the money towards the restoration?

or drive like Bones did in that movie "Gator".  :lol:
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Quote from: XS29LA47V21 on July 18, 2012, 09:31:59 AM
Quote from: Paul G on July 18, 2012, 09:02:41 AM
No. Keep it original. Mod up a less rare one.  

I agree, "clone" up something less rare. :Twocents:
Quote from: Ghoste on July 18, 2012, 09:44:40 AM
One more vote for cloning up a different car.
Quote from: bill440rt on July 18, 2012, 10:06:05 AM
And another.


Quote from: Paul G on July 18, 2012, 09:02:41 AM
No. Keep it original. Mod up a less rare one. 



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Rolling_Thunder

Do what you want to -  if the next owner (if there is one) doesnt like it he can buy a new AMD roof skin and remove the sunroof.
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Quote from: 928007 on July 18, 2012, 08:51:01 AM
i have a rtse that needs to be restored. i also have an original sunroof top i bought off ebay 6 years ago. should i install it in the rtse.   



Do it.

I started with a 69 RT SE.

Grafted a factory sunroof on it.

And then made a Daytona out of it.

crankypat

    NO.........GO COBBLE UP SOMETHING ELSE!   ....MOD UP A POS  GL! :Twocents:

Brightyellow69rtse

I wouldn't cut up a rt se myself.

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Quote from: XS29L9Bxxxxxx on July 18, 2012, 09:00:07 AM
As long as it is disclosed in the future, sure.

Interesting point but what about the future owners? It's one thing to disclose these changes after you make them but you can't control the ethics of any future owners.

Dino

Start restoring the car first, it'll take a long time and it'll be easier down the line to decide what you want to do with it.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

cdr

its your car,for me i dont like a sunroof ,so NO  :slap:
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moparmark

Leave the car as is.....save the sunroof for an actual sunroof car.....

AKcharger

I'd change it over, it's not like you're talkin' a '69 Charger 500 w/Hemi or somthing...do what ya' want.

But if you don't...PM me...I'll buy the roof  ;)

dkn1997

Quote from: moparstuart on July 18, 2012, 09:08:41 AM
  go for it , but do it right   :Twocents:

Exactly... have a new fendertag made, add the sunroof code to broadcast sheet.  In for a penny, In for a pound lol....
All kidding aside, my thoughts go right to what the other guy just said about the novelty wearing off.  I have a sunfroof in my 02 tahoe.  In 7 years I don't think Iv'e ever opened it other than to see if it still works. 
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Quote from: AKcharger on July 18, 2012, 05:23:57 PM
I'd change it over, it's not like you're talkin' a '69 Charger 500 w/Hemi or somthing...do what ya' want.

But if you don't...PM me...I'll buy the roof  ;)

Man, that actually sounds like a good idea to do to my C500.. I also have a factory decklid with a luggage rack up in the attic, maybe I can make that work too..  :icon_smile_big:

Quote from: Ghoste on July 18, 2012, 09:44:40 AM
One more vote for cloning up a different car.

If he's like me, he may not have the luxury of having enough money to fix the R/T SE and get another car just to use the sunroof. If you're saving this R/T SE from the brink, I say go for it.. Life's too short... Put the roof on it.............

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What, no poll?  :shruggy:
I guess I'd cut it in or sell it...
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Quote from: AKcharger on July 18, 2012, 05:23:57 PM
I'd change it over, it's not like you're talkin' a '69 Charger 500 w/Hemi or somthing...do what ya' want.

But if you don't...PM me...I'll buy the roof  ;)

Put me second in line for the roof.

I've got another '69 waiting it's turn...


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Is your RTSE matching #'s? Not sure I would cut a numbers car such as that. But it is your car, do what you want.
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Quote from: NHCharger on July 18, 2012, 08:58:20 PM
Is your RTSE matching #'s? Not sure I would cut a numbers car such as that. But it is your car, do what you want.

That's what I was waiting to say.  If you have the tag/sheet & the #'s drivetrain than absolutely no.


If your car is like Rod's in that all you have is a VIN proving it's an R/T & nothing more than by all means mod it up.

nvrbdn

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AirborneSilva

Another vote for keeping the R/T-SE original  :yesnod:

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Quote from: mauve66 on July 18, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
don't sell it to him , he may not be around, we're waiting day by day here........................

this is true, we are on the call list to haul the junk away. :smilielol: :smilielol:
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Years ago I'd have easily considered installing a sunroof, but seeing how difficult it is finding parts for the sunroof itself these days, I don't feel the same way about it. If the car is rusty enough to need a roof, then that would make it easier to still consider it as long as I had EVERYTHING for the roof. As far as the car being a less expensive base model or a RT/SE, that wouldn't matter to me or be a deterrent from doing it.

One last thought, is it something you'd be doing yourself, or having a shop do it? The cost of that mod may never justify the desire to have it.   :Twocents:
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Quote from: hemi68charger on July 18, 2012, 07:30:33 PM
Quote from: AKcharger on July 18, 2012, 05:23:57 PM
I'd change it over, it's not like you're talkin' a '69 Charger 500 w/Hemi or somthing...do what ya' want.

But if you don't...PM me...I'll buy the roof  ;)

Man, that actually sounds like a good idea to do to my C500.. I also have a factory decklid with a luggage rack up in the attic, maybe I can make that work too..  :icon_smile_big:

Quote from: Ghoste on July 18, 2012, 09:44:40 AM
One more vote for cloning up a different car.

   Troy, isn't a 500 deck lid to short for a luggage rack ?

If he's like me, he may not have the luxury of having enough money to fix the R/T SE and get another car just to use the sunroof. If you're saving this R/T SE from the brink, I say go for it.. Life's too short... Put the roof on it.............


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Quote from: moparmark on July 18, 2012, 04:43:22 PM
Leave the car as is.....save the sunroof for an actual sunroof car.....

I could use some parts from it if you decide not to use it  :2thumbs:

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six-tee-nine

I'd say do what you want if you like it.

If I would do such a mod, then you should be 100% factory appearing. Who will notice? if you keep your original fender tag in the car then only people who know all feder tag codes will see the difference.
If you can live with the fact that anyone asks you on a cruise or meet if it is original, and you say "naah, I added the sunroof myself but hell I like it alot" then where's the problem...

Will it hurt the value? Probably for some it will but more than enough others wont matter.
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Ghoste

I disagree somewhat.  As these things get older I see value being placed on originality more than ever.  You could be correct in that there will be "enough" others that there is still a decent buying market for it but I see that group shrinking over time.  It will never disappear completely but it gets smaller over time.  There are a lot of high quality original equipment cars out there and buyers with money are becoming more reluctant to invest it in cars they are less assured of seeing their return.  Look at the price drop of clones compared to real cars and then consider that just before the bubble popped some of those clones were beginning to get pretty close to bringing the same money as the cars they were emulating.  Just my opinion though.

Dino

Quote from: Ghoste on July 25, 2012, 07:50:06 AM
I disagree somewhat.  As these things get older I see value being placed on originality more than ever.  You could be correct in that there will be "enough" others that there is still a decent buying market for it but I see that group shrinking over time.  It will never disappear completely but it gets smaller over time.  There are a lot of high quality original equipment cars out there and buyers with money are becoming more reluctant to invest it in cars they are less assured of seeing their return.  Look at the price drop of clones compared to real cars and then consider that just before the bubble popped some of those clones were beginning to get pretty close to bringing the same money as the cars they were emulating.  Just my opinion though.

I was thinking about that recently.  I'm not so sure that the amount of Chargers out there is shrinking.  Would it not make sense that with the availability of parts it is now easier to bring an old car like a Charger back to life compared to 10-20 years ago?  Also these cars will start to move around more when owners are forced to sell or when they reach an age they no longer use it and then of course when the aging owner is no more.  I think we may be seeing more driver or better condition cars than we used to.  It's just a guess though, I may be way off the mark.
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Ghoste

I wasn't really meaning the amount of Chargers but rather the amount of buyers who are spending without a care.  Without a care is a bit over the top maybe but it points to my intent I hope.

Dino

Quote from: Ghoste on July 25, 2012, 08:29:37 AM
I wasn't really meaning the amount of Chargers but rather the amount of buyers who are spending without a care.  Without a care is a bit over the top maybe but it points to my intent I hope.

Oh, my bad!
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Ghoste

Actually your point about cars and aging owners is one I agree with too as I think that is also going to be more and more of a factor in buyers having the option to be choosy.  And yet in spite of what I jsut typed out, I don't know that I think there will be a glut of cars either.  Those two statements contradict but who knows?  It will be interesting for sure.
I still think the sunroof stitched onto a non sunroof car that is desirable in its own right would hurt that car but the sunroof on a lesser car would help the lesser one.  My wife would quickly point out to all of you that I am almost always wrong though so take it how you wish. :lol:

AirborneSilva

Quote from: Ghoste on July 25, 2012, 09:00:56 AM
  My wife would quickly point out to all of you that I am almost always wrong though so take it how you wish. :lol:

Your wife and mine must be long lost sisters  :icon_smile_big:

but I do agree with your statement that putting the sunroof on the SE would lessen the value but on a run of the mill Charger it could only enhance the value.

Dino

I agree with both of you and I think I may have the long lost third sister here...
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Ghoste

I call female conspiracy, we can't all be wrong all the time. :lol:

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Quote from: tan top on July 18, 2012, 11:27:06 AM
Quote from: XS29LA47V21 on July 18, 2012, 09:31:59 AM
Quote from: Paul G on July 18, 2012, 09:02:41 AM
No. Keep it original. Mod up a less rare one.  

I agree, "clone" up something less rare. :Twocents:
Quote from: Ghoste on July 18, 2012, 09:44:40 AM
One more vote for cloning up a different car.
Quote from: bill440rt on July 18, 2012, 10:06:05 AM
And another.


Quote from: Paul G on July 18, 2012, 09:02:41 AM
No. Keep it original. Mod up a less rare one. 



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Quote from: Ghoste on July 25, 2012, 10:09:18 AM
I call female conspiracy, we can't all be wrong all the time. :lol:

I just checked with my wife and she says we can...I thought you had something there for a moment but alas.   :lol:
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