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Looked at this car today... ** LAST UPDATE Feb. 8th**

Started by TruckDriver, February 02, 2006, 09:07:18 PM

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I got til tuesday 2/7/06 to decied or he will cut it up for parts.

Buy it and fix it up for a driver?
38 (60.3%)
Buy it, keep the parts I need, sell the rest as parts?
4 (6.3%)
Forget about it, let the owner part it, buy what I need?
7 (11.1%)
Forget about it completely, look else where for what I need?
0 (0%)
Buy it, shine it up really well, flip it on eBay & use the proceeds for my existing Charger
14 (22.2%)

Total Members Voted: 63

Voting closed: February 08, 2006, 09:07:18 PM

TruckDriver

A few of you already knew I was thinking about this car. But, I saw this car today. The guy wants $2,500. Firm for it. I now don't know what I wanna do. I am not sure if I wanna buy it and fix it, or if I buy it and part it like I was originally going to do. It definatly looks better in the pics then it does in person. Personaly in my opinion, as a whole car in general, I'd say it is only worth about $1,500 to $1,700. As a parts car, it is worth $2,500. The guy has given me til Tuesday night to decide if I want it. If I do not, he told me right out, he is going to chop it up for the parts to put on Ebay, and scrap the rest. For those who don't know, it is a '74 ex 318 car with '72 fenders and bumpers. This car was a street and strip car. It had a 440 til he blew it up. What do you think?

1)The car looks like the pic... mean and a bit faded. The stripes are painted on. The windsheild is cracked all the way across the long way though. He does have tape between the passenger door window and the rear window cause the weather striping trim piece is gone. The car has '72 fenders on it, so they don't bolt up right. The owner said he thinks the driver side one has some bondo in it near the bottom.



2)He does still have the original blue trunk lid on a roller car now. It has 2 black racing stripes also. He took it off because of rust (not real bad) along the lip seam both sides of the lock. This silver one is a '71 lid, and does have the spoiler cut outs on the inside of the lid. It also has a small rust hole on the inside, passenger side, rear corner about the size of a quarter. The tail lights are indeed true '72 S.E. lights just missing the crome bezels that go around the lenses. (I actually own 2 bezels that didn't come with my car to make a complete set).



3)The floors are solid. The dash pad is cracked under the cover. The vinyl is not real dry, but it is not real soft any more either. Normal I guess. And the drivers seat (you see in the pic) is missing a button at the bottom close to the door, and has a silicone gobbed into a seam tear up near the head rest next to the door (minor seat issues). Otherwise, the seats are nice. If you look just behind the driver seat, where the crome trim is where the weather striping is, part of the quarter panel just below that trim piece was cut a little with a jig saw for some reason. The rallye dash is not original, and doesn't really sit right in the dash. There are a few gaps between the bezel and  the dash pad. It does however have a 150mph speedo. The bezel was cut for aftermarket radio too. The consol is nice, but it does have minor issues that you can see in the pictures. In the backseat pic, you can see the rear panel on the drive side is loose and sticking out, not sure why. The headliner is real nice yet.




4)The trunk is reasonably solid. But as you see in the pics, there is a hole in the driver side wheel well. All the drain plugs are gone too. Might be why the trunk is like it is. The first 2 pics are the drivers side of the trunk, the 3rd is  the passenger side.





5)This is one nice '72 grille yet. (first 2 pics) It is bolted to the longer '74 brackets.




6)Everything is gone out of the engine compartment. The radiator, wiring, fender tag, everything. The hood hinges were in the trunk with a set of headers. Again, he said it used to have 440 in it. The tranny is still there as you can see. There is a medium sized rust hole in the firewall from leaves building up too.



7)Driver side quarter is mostly bondo. Looks like it was fixed, then hit again.



8)The rear axle is a 3.91 posi professionally built for racing. He has the drag wheel that would go on the car when he would race it.



9)Under the car, the frame is pretty good. I didn't get down in the semi muddy grass to look real good, but it seems solid and usable yet with a lot of paint and under coating still on the underside.

EDIT; I SHOULD SAY TOO, I GET A 400 WITH THE CAR TOO, I RAN BEFORE IT GOT PULLED, THEN SAT FOR A COUPLE YEARS. STILL TURNS OVER.



PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

WM23N1

Buy it and fix it up if its not all beat up and rusted out. Hard to come by one thats not..Looks like a rallye car too.
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dd44068

If you have the funds and the time i would say restore it you could always resell it thay are becoming harder to find it looked pretty solid so i say restore it

kab69440

Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not;  a sense of humor to console him for what he is.      Francis Bacon

WANT TO BUY:
Looking for a CD by  'The Sub-Mersians'  entitled "Raw Love Songs From My Garage To Your Bedroom"

Also, any of the various surf-revival compilation albums this band has contributed to.
Thank you,    Kenny

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2fast4u

   I think any mopar muscle car that "can" be saved is worth saving if it's within' your grasp!


                   I say go for it!!!   just my  :Twocents:

2fast
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Charger_Fan

I'd keep it too. From those pics it doesn't look bad at all.

Or...buy it, spit shine it really well, flip it on eGouge & use the proceeds to paint your existing Charger. ;)

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

Brock Samson

well, i'm not that up on the current 3rd gen. values and parts prices,.. Id be asking myseld how much would she cost to get back in the shape I'd want herto be,.. off the top, looks like a cool $2oK, Min. to get her to a level of finish I'd find acceptable,.. IMO..

TruckDriver

Quote from: CHARGER_FAN on February 02, 2006, 09:28:01 PM
I'd keep it too. From those pics it doesn't look bad at all.

Or...buy it, spit shine it really well, flip it on eGouge & use the proceeds to paint your existing Charger. ;)

I thought about that too. I had to addt hat to the poll. You can change your answers too buy the way.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

Silver R/T

interior looks pretty nice, $2500 is a bit too much for that particular car. Id offer him $1900 cash and go from there
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My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

Highbanked Hauler

  Get it running and driving and cleaned up,put a FORSALE sign in it and go from there.
69 Charger 500, original owner  
68 Charger former parts car in process of rebuilding
92 Cummins Turbo Diesel
04 PT Cruiser

Daytona R/T SE

You're getting a power bulge hood, cutout rear valance, hide-away headlight set-up, bucket seats, console, slapstick shifter, rallye dash AND the rest of the car for $2500.....BUY IT!    AND THEN SELL ME THE ALUMINUM SLOT MAGS OFF OF IT!!!!   ( IF they're in good shape  ;) )

hemihead

Lots of people talkin' , few of them know
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Pistolpete

I gotta agree with the rattle can fix up and flip it on ebay, doesn't look in that bad a shape and someones always lookin for a 3rd gen. driver !! Use the dough to fix up your existing charger, no brainer for me.

just my  :Twocents: though
'68 440 4 spd - Pro Tour
'69 R/T 440 4 spd

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DC_1

Buy and fix it up........It was meant to be....it already matches your avatar!

bill440rt

Unless a car is really rusted to dirt and falling apart, it would be a shame to cut it up. Finding a car that hasn't already been restored, with little rust nowadays in almost impossible. There's some good parts still on that car. The hardest thing is dealing with the cut out shock towers, the rest looks very buildable.
Good Luck with whatever you decide.
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

1972Rallye

I say buy it!... but only for selfish reasons (I need a NICE '72 Pass fender)  :icon_smile_wink:

Might be a little steep for fixing up - OK if you're going to part it.

greenpigs

  $2500 doesn't get much even if it is a 3rd gen  ;D When the first picture came up I said wow out loud and that doesn't happen often. Buy the car and do a re-ring on the 400 and drive it then if you ever get in a pinch you can sell it. I don't know what your other Charger looks like but that one is the cats ass even if it is probably rougher than it looks.


BUY IT!
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Old Moparz

Ask yourself if there are a lot of parts on it that you need for your car. If there is, & if it doesn't kill you financially, maybe it's worth it. I also think $2500 is a little high, but then prices have been all over lately so I'm not so sure. I was in the same situation a few years ago with a '69 Charger I bought & eventually parted. My '68 had absolutely nothing when I bought it as a rust free shell, so instead of buying a gazillion parts one by one on ebay & at swap meets, I bought the '69 in pretty much the same shape as the car you are contemplating. They're both restorable, well not mine anymore, & in my opinion could be done since it's not a total rot box.

Buying it to intentionally part out & resell the shell is a lot of work & won't happen fast. The same with making it better to resell as a driver, beater or whatever level you take it to. Other factors for me would be having the space & time to do it, so maybe that means something in your decision. If you're comfortable with the firm price of $2500 & have the time & space, then I say buy it, keep what you need if you really do need it, & resell the rest. I would definitely get down & dirty in the mud & stab the frame rails with an awl or something to make sure the structure is sound. Remember, there is NO such thing as "surface rust".
               Bob               



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twilt

I would have already paid for that car and made plans to drag it home.  Because of the desirable parts on the car, no matter what you decide to do with it, you cant lose. stop bleepin around and get it! 

TeeWJay426

I'm with the majority on this one.... it's definitely not that far gone; lots of good points to it, and definitely worth saving. It would be a shame for it to be broken up for parts. I'd try to get it for 2K, but it's probably worth the 2500 he's asking, especially in this screwy market.
74 Charger SE, 400 HP, 4-speed

TruckDriver

Quote from: 1972Rallye on February 03, 2006, 09:16:12 AM
I say buy it!... but only for selfish reasons (I need a NICE '72 Pass fender)  :icon_smile_wink:

Might be a little steep for fixing up - OK if you're going to part it.

He has some NOS '72 fenders to sell to. I seen them, doesnt look like they were ever used on a car either. He thinks he will get around $800 for them on Ebay. It wouldn't supprize me. That guy has so much 3rd gen. stuff, I could easily spend $5,000. after the blue Charger. He has got a small barn full he is selling off. Has a bunch of '73-'74 stuff too. Grilles, bumpers, seats, rear quarters, hoods including a '71 R/T hood near mint condition with the correct metal insert for sale. I do have a pic of the hood without insert installed.



This is his Ebay stuff http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZonefast300lQQssPageNameZSTRKQ3aMEFSQ3aMESOI

He's also got a Colorado '79 Plymouth Trailduster 4x4 that he is going to sell after he puts the 440 in a nice '75 3/4 ton.

He also has what is left of a '71 Super Bee 4spd car. He said it was a 383 car. If I had a plasma cutter, He would give me the trunk floor I need for my '72.


PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

41husk

It is a shame many of these cars are worth more in pieces.  I personaly couldn't cut it up but you have much more than that in parts.  I would either fix it or flip it, just can't bear to part out a repairable car.  Heck at HLPG that would be a fast easy father and son project and could be bought for $5,999.99  :icon_smile_big:
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

PURTBOY

BUY IT AND FIX IT UP, TO NICE LOOKING IN THAT SEXY PETTY LOOKING BLUE TO SCRAP!!!! :yesnod:

andy74

i would be all over that,cash in hand-and i would find room for it somewhere,a lot of good usable stuff,and i would use the extra parts from my other cars to put this one back together as a street beater