Going to look at a 68

[DadsCharger00]

Going to take a look today at an "unmolested " 68 today. Any words of wisdom before I go? I'll post pictures and results when I get back this afternoon!

[bakerhillpins]

If you can get pics of all the major rust areas:

Lower rear window, lower rear quarters, rear frame rails, rockers, torsion bar cross member, inside trunk, rear valance.  Grab a few of the interior and engine bay. Fender tag and VIN if you can.  Does it run? Turn it on and note gauges, lights, etc that don't work..

Can you take it for a spin? - Have someone follow you and see if it crabs. (rides sideways) Test the brakes, Sit in traffic and see how it does in the heat...

Are you interested in its #s?  Read here - http://andy440.com/other.htm

Lots of stuff.  Good luck    and we love pics!!!   

[1970Moparmann]

Look at -

VIN
Fender Tag
Radiator lip
frame rails
body lines
rear and front valance

Good luck.  Report your findings!

[DadsCharger00]

Ok. So I went to look at it and here's what I have to report. Car isn't perfect but hey its 44 years old. The good news is this.....it's all original metal with very solid panels. From what I could tell everything is there. Only concern is he said it was an unmolested 383 original engine. if ya decode the vin it is supposed to be a 318. Few spots of surface rust and to holes in the trunk but rest of trunk is solid. Here is a few specs that I do know.

New hemi torque flight transmission.
Power steering. VERY LITTLE play in the steering. Drives very straight and right down the middle of the road.)
Power breaks. (Disc front)
AC works.

Rebuilt radiator
Electronic ignition
New carpet inside (seats need redone but are usable)
Rebuilt front end (ball joints, tie rods, idler arm pitman arm)
New shocks around
U joints replaced
New fuel sending unit and comes with a new gas tank
Correct side mirrors
Rebuilt heater core
New spark plug wires
Recent alternator and fan replacement
Replaced rest glass chrome trim

Car came from Arizona. It's got a few dents and bumps and bruises. Tail lamps all good.  All front plastic grill good  everything inside works except the clock, and the blinkers are iffy.  But the pictures can tell a better story then I can. Doors open and close smoothly. No slam. Trunk and hood open and close smoothly. Body lines are good. Look at the pictures and let me know what ya all think. Is it a good one or should I pass and move on?!?! 16k is the price I got him too.

[DadsCharger00]

Trying to post pics.....sorry. Won't give me the option!!!!!

[Daytona R/T SE]

Ok. So I went to look at it and here's what I have to report. Car isn't perfect but hey its 44 years old. The good news is this.....it's all original metal with very solid panels. From what I could tell everything is there. Only concern is he said it was an unmolested 383 original engine. if ya decode the vin it is supposed to be a 318. Few spots of surface rust and to holes in the trunk but rest of trunk is solid. Here is a few specs that I do know.

New hemi torque flight transmission.
Power steering. VERY LITTLE play in the steering. Drives very straight and right down the middle of the road.)
Power breaks. (Disc front)
AC works.

Rebuilt radiator
Electronic ignition
New carpet inside (seats need redone but are usable)
Rebuilt front end (ball joints, tie rods, idler arm pitman arm)
New shocks around
U joints replaced
New fuel sending unit and comes with a new gas tank
Correct side mirrors
Rebuilt heater core
New spark plug wires
Recent alternator and fan replacement
Replaced rest glass chrome trim

Car came from Arizona. It's got a few dents and bumps and bruises. Tail lamps all good.  All front plastic grill good  everything inside works except the clock, and the blinkers are iffy.  But the pictures can tell a better story then I can. Doors open and close smoothly. No slam. Trunk and hood open and close smoothly. Body lines are good. Look at the pictures and let me know what ya all think. Is it a good one or should I pass and move on?!?! 16k is the price I got him too.

Can you post the VIN?

[DadsCharger00]

Vin is

XP29G8B182699

Fender tag is there. Got pictures. Can't post em!!! Grrr

[cdr]

Vin is

XP29G8B182699

Fender tag is there. Got pictures. Can't post em!!! Grrr

383 2 barrel

[cdr]

f is 318,g is 383 2b,h 383 4b,

[DadsCharger00]

Ok. So I was wrong....good deal. It's a 4 b now. Original 2 comes with it.

[cdr]

to post pics they cant be larger than 199 kb     WE NEED PICS

[DadsCharger00]

I'm trying. So how do I get the pics to not be to big! I'm losing my mind here!

[Daytona R/T SE]

Vin is

XP29G8B182699

Fender tag is there. Got pictures. Can't post em!!! Grrr

383 2 barrel

Yep

[DadsCharger00]

Post when I get home. Darn iPads.

[cdr]

i can edit mine on the program called paint on my pc?

[twodko]

You must embrace your frustration Grasshopper.

Download a free program called "ResizePic" or "Pic Resize", I don't recall at the moment.....it's on my laptop. Super easy to use....you can decrease the size up to 25%.

Picture posting you will be one with. Let the farce guide you cdr.

[DadsCharger00]

try this link for now....grr...


http://s1149.photobucket.com/albums/o592/Scheinom/

[cdr]

another jj1 poop gold like mine,if you want a driver to drive & restore ? thats alot of money, there is a lot of hidden rust on that car

[1974dodgecharger]

another jj1 poop gold like mine,if you want a driver to drive & restore ? thats alot of money, there is a lot of hidden rust on that car

how can you tell? I looked at the pics (untrained eye) and it looks pretty good to me. Interior is shot no biggie there, but exterior looks 'ok'? What price you thinking?

surface yes I see, but major?

[marshallfry01]

Dang, I sure wish I could find a 69 in that kinda shape.  It looks like a good driver that you can work on while you drive it.  I like it!

[cdr]

another jj1 poop gold like mine,if you want a driver to drive & restore ? thats alot of money, there is a lot of hidden rust on that car

how can you tell? I looked at the pics (untrained eye) and it looks pretty good to me. Interior is shot no biggie there, but exterior looks 'ok'? What price you thinking?

surface yes I see, but major?

pic 2 deck lid is rusted on underside at the crimp seam,looks like filler in the left upper channel,pic 9 something got covered on that seam.pic 15 windshield been leaking if you can see rust take it apart & thats all you will have,pic 39 rust is under the factory lead .47 pull the vinyl up rust.60 61 looks like rust to me just sayin

[cdr]

need more pics under car,rockers,trunk drop offs,under rear window,if they will let you pull rear seat,& pull carpet back in the front

[carsnguitars]

Looking at pics, seems a tad high to me as well.
I just picked up a XP29G in Febuary for 8500. It had been sitting since 92 in backyard under a tarp. Of course the original engine and tranny were replaced wiht a 440/727, but all esle was there and the interior other than carpet, and one tear in drivers seat, was very good condition. It does need some patches on both lower quarters, and had small dent in fender. I had the 727 rebuit cleaned up engine and put nw carb on it, and drives pretty darn good.

BTW not trying to discourage you...it looks nice....and I talked the guy down a few thousand cuz he really wanted to get rid of it.....if you like it, that is all that matters....you have fun with it...it looks like a good driver, restore as you go type car, which is what I was looking for.

[DadsCharger00]

I certainly appreciate all the input. I don't know what I'll end up doing. Have a couple phone calls to make tomorrow on it. He was asking more then enough, but said 16. I figured I'd shoot him 14 and see what he says. Really I'm looking for a driver for my dad. I won't get my hands on it per say till my dad passes. The car is for him. Relive the golden years ya know. Just want him to have one to drive for awhile with my mom. I thought it was pretty nice but my eye is not trained for this. That's why I posted. Should I take the car somewhere have it looked at? Move on find another one?

[cdr]

its very hard to find a good driver for a good price,i would take it to a good mechanic & pay him to ck it out,i have seen some pretty nice 68s in the low 20s,this car is not even close to that, maybe 12 in this economy 

[DadsCharger00]

Well I don't want to waste my time with this one or his time either if it's not worth it....maybe I'll just have to move on....

[1974dodgecharger]

its very hard to find a good driver for a good price,i would take it to a good mechanic & pay him to ck it out,i have seen some pretty nice 68s in the low 20s,this car is not even close to that, maybe 12 in this economy 

even in this economy based on what you guys saw I dont think he would get 16k for it. Unless a new Fast and Furious comes out this summer then I dont see chargers jumping in price, yet, based on what folks have said it does look like a 12k car.

I base everything off a recent seller on here who sold his car for 15k, no rust, 440 non original, all it needed was brakes bled. It was such a good price a person from overseas bought it. I still believe a nice daily driver can be had for 15k and dont let others tell you other wise because they want to sell theres to you for a higher price etc.....

[DadsCharger00]

So I should move on and keep looking....

[DadsCharger00]

Oh...and where the he!! Was I when that car was sold....would've jumped all over that. Day late dollarS short

[Cooter]

Need to take a knowledgable person with you and go look at it in person. Asking everybody here will only give you mixed results. Some will call Bullsh*t, and some will tell you it's a steal. If the car is legit and as described expect to pay at least 15-$20K for a driver.

[DadsCharger00]

 I was going to show a body man the pictures and see what he thought. Not sure if I'll ge there today or not. I guess my thoughts after listening is that if I wait and can get one better for the same dollars maybe that's what i should do. I dont want to get in over my head but I do want something dependable that can be a driver. To be honest if this one didn't have the big dent on the passenger side I'd be very interested despite the rust etc. but I can see how it would be a project to get a lot of it to the specs I guess of a "good" driver.

[chargerboy69]

After looking at the pictures is I would consider dropping $14 on it.  If it is solid, I think it is worth $14 all day long.  I watch these cars too, and from the 2008, 2009 low, prices are starting to rise again, slowly.

Yea, the interior is bad, but that is not hard.  Paint, thats where it will get pricey.

May want to send a PM to Travis( 69charger2002 ).  He sometimes has a extra Charger or two laying around, and is always fair on his prices. 

Good luck.

[NHCharger]

The car is all there and complete. Yes it has it's share of bumps and bruises and some rust issues are starting to show and the interior is pretty beat. Offer him 12k cash, never know.
How long have you been looking for a 68? How old is your Dad? Can he wait five more years? The "great deals" are usually the one where someone is in the right place at the right time. Doesn't happen very often. At least not to me.

[1974dodgecharger]

Oh...and where the he!! Was I when that car was sold....would've jumped all over that. Day late dollarS short

there will be more....be patient and wait for the right one.....did he say how much he sold it for?

[DadsCharger00]

I've only been looking about three months. ONLY, lol! My dad is 64 but was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer in October. He's been in chemotherapy once a week since. I'm not really concerned with the year. My dad actually had a 69. I don't think sadly he has 5 years. He hasn't sold it but I told him today thanks but no thanks. I think I agree with you all....I can find a better one. I just have to try to be patient. Lol easier said then done. thanks guys for all your help. It's really appreciated. I'll be bugging you that's for sure!

[surmanajaja]

good decision.

I have seen rust free, original paint cars sell for under 20k in this summer, its always better to spend a few grand more when you buy if you can, because fixing the issues in a car like that wont be cheap and fast.

changing an engine, trans or suspension is a weekend job for an average guy, fixing body and paint will take a whole winter for most of us. and takes effort to get it right.
just wait a while, I see good deals all the time, and economy is just getting worse, u havent seen nothing yet, so these cars WILL get cheaper.

[Homerr]

Compare to the car I restored (though for future reference now):

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,91842.0.html

The rust around the rear window is the biggest concern on that car, it will probably be a major project at some point.