2nd gen lowered look....

[1974dodgecharger]

Im assuming to get this looked these are bagged?  Unless he never drives the car on the roads since it might hit the road and harm the under carriage area?

I liked the 'little bit of tire' under the body, but I know if I go over speed bumps im gonna scrape the buttom somehow unless I had the abliliy to raise it.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=86094.0

[Mike DC]

  
Never underestimate people's willingness to build good looking cars too impractical to drive in the real world.


If you bring a car down by more than a couple inches, the unibody's front subframe itself gets low enough to hit the pavement on bumps.  At that point it won't matter what you do with the exhaust & suspension, the car is just too low.  

IMHO any car going really low needs the whole undercarriage sunk a few inches upwards into the body like the early NASCAR Chargers.  At least if you want it to be a REAL street car and ride that low.      



   airbags = bling

[myk]

As long as it's functional and lends to the performance potential of the car I see nothing wrong with it.  Ricers do similar things, scraping tires on the actual fenders and whatnot AND THEY THINK ITS COOL.  Again as long as the performance potential of the car isn't sacrificed and hopefully improved the setup is at the discretion of the owner. 

And honestly, what I truly find ridiculous is that stock looking '68 on the other thread; does that thing still have teeny weeny bias-play tires?  Drum brakes?  The ammeter wired up and ready to go up in flames?  Probably...

[Cooter]

AMEN Mike once again. Things that look cool are almost always impractical in the real world. Very few actually have a cool look and function. Lowered cars IMO, as I've had/have a few, SUCK to drive in the real world. However, the cool factor and how long you put up with it, all depends on your patience.

[Ghoste]

Imagine some of the exotic sports cars like the Porsche Carrera GT where they are scraping level ground just about and its the way they come from the factory.  Pay all that money for something and have to plot out the route each trip to avoid road conditions that are otherwise normal.

[1974dodgecharger]

I guess I just like the look where the rear tires lip is stuffed in the wheel well, but at the same time for everyday driver also where I dont have to worry too much about some dinky speed bumps at the mall or something to scrape my under carriage.

I found out it requires alot of suspension work to get this look. I will lower it low as possible with the smallest shackles one could find.

[Mike DC]

Just to clarify, 

The post I made above was directed more at the MAJOR lowering jobs.  Its usually not a big deal to bring a car down an inch or two below stock.


But these days, most of the cars in the Mopar hobby are already riding around with the front end slightly lowered compared to the true stock height.  So when someone talks about wanting to lower their Mopar down, they are usually picturing something pretty far below the factory intended setting on the front end. 

[twodko]

I hear the intent of your post and thank you for it. With that said the Chip Foose Bagged look has always seemed ghetto to me. 

[c00nhunterjoe]

I hear the intent of your post and thank you for it. With that said the Chip Foose Bagged look has always seemed ghetto to me. 

What, you don't think 2nd gen's look good with 24 inch rims?? 

[1974dodgecharger]

I hear the intent of your post and thank you for it. With that said the Chip Foose Bagged look has always seemed ghetto to me. 

What, you don't think 2nd gen's look good with 24 inch rims?? 

I personally would take up to max 20s...

[c00nhunterjoe]

I hear the intent of your post and thank you for it. With that said the Chip Foose Bagged look has always seemed ghetto to me. 

What, you don't think 2nd gen's look good with 24 inch rims?? 

I personally would take up to max 20s...

Depending on the style they don't look bad. Chip foose wheels are horrific in my opinion.  The torque thrusts look really good in big sizes and if they made a vector in a 16 or 17 I would probably buy it. The low profile tires would make a world of difference.

[Cooter]

Can't stand big wheels on older cars. Need to be on newer cars with those HUGE fender openings. Big wheels IMO on these cars looks "Ghetto" as well.


Personally, even if the wheel is model'd after an existing one, it still looks stupid. Like those 18-20" Plymouth Rallye wheels in chrome. Damn, that looks sh*tty. Low profile tires will cause all kinds of headaches when it comes to ride quality. Ever hit a pot hole with those things? Yep, bent wheel.

[c00nhunterjoe]

My 07 RT has the road and track package, part of the upgrade is the 20 inch rims and I don't have any problems.

20's on the 2nd gen look ghetto, I agree, but I think some of the 17's I've seen look pretty good.

[1974dodgecharger]

Can't stand big wheels on older cars. Need to be on newer cars with those HUGE fender openings. Big wheels IMO on these cars looks "Ghetto" as well.


Personally, even if the wheel is model'd after an existing one, it still looks stupid. Like those 18-20" Plymouth Rallye wheels in chrome. Damn, that looks sh*tty. Low profile tires will cause all kinds of headaches when it comes to ride quality. Ever hit a pot hole with those things? Yep, bent wheel.

yeah the thin profile tires are horrible for daily driver.  Had rid in one before and man let me tell ya feels likes crap. I do believe in a happy medium though....though not too beefy sidewalls either like some guys like it sorry I dont go to the track daily.....

[c00nhunterjoe]

There are some happy mediums in this thread. I like the look on hitman's post.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,40025.50.html

[1974dodgecharger]

There are some happy mediums in this thread. I like the look on hitman's post.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,40025.50.html

hitman does have that look that I like seems he didnt alter his suspension drastilly....gonna PM him

[Cooter]

16-17" would be bout the maximum for me. "Hitman's" post with the black Dodge looks tarded. Not enough backspacing on the wheels. Looks to "Hot wheels" to me.

I like the look of the "Fiske"(I think?) wheels Cody posted though.

[twodko]

Agree.

[chargerboy69]

There are some happy mediums in this thread. I like the look on hitman's post.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,40025.50.html

hitman does have that look that I like seems he didnt alter his suspension drastilly....gonna PM him

That is not Johns (Hitmans) car, that is Mikes (Mr. Angry) car.  Those pictures are just photo-shopped pictures of Mikes car with different wheels and stripe.

He never did that to his car, in fact he sold his car at least a couple years ago.

[surmanajaja]

There are some happy mediums in this thread. I like the look on hitman's post.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,40025.50.html

hitman does have that look that I like seems he didnt alter his suspension drastilly....gonna PM him

That is not Johns (Hitmans) car, that is Mikes (Mr. Angry) car.  Those pictures are just photo-shopped pictures of Mikes car with different wheels and stripe.

He never did that to his car, in fact he sold his car at least a couple years ago.

yup, it went to this guy in Estonia:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,76732.msg881084.html#msg881084

I think its now resold and in Finland.

[c00nhunterjoe]

woops, didnt know that.


went to the york pa, us 30 nostalgia show yesterday. LOTS of nice cars there. saw this pretty 68 charger that happened to have 16 inch wheels. i liked the look and fit of them.

[1974dodgecharger]

got any more pics of this? Looks badass.....

woops, didnt know that.


went to the york pa, us 30 nostalgia show yesterday. LOTS of nice cars there. saw this pretty 68 charger that happened to have 16 inch wheels. i liked the look and fit of them.

[c00nhunterjoe]

Sadly no. I had my 9 year old daughter with me and let's just say she is less then enthusiastic about old cars at this point. I bought extra time by getting her icecream but I was scared to death she would spill it on a car so I kept my distance.

[1974dodgecharger]

Sadly no. I had my 9 year old daughter with me and let's just say she is less then enthusiastic about old cars at this point. I bought extra time by getting her icecream but I was scared to death she would spill it on a car so I kept my distance.

I have to say those 16s fit it so well.....they look l ike 20s to me....I like that look also. 

[autodynamics]

Function and fit! 16-17-18-19 wheels look real nice
If your into the tiny 15" look that's ok too
But performance is in the bigger sizes
There is a limit to how big and yes a lot do cross the line!

Just remember little wheels =little brakes

[Bastrd]

Im assuming to get this looked these are bagged?  Unless he never drives the car on the roads since it might hit the road and harm the under carriage area?

I liked the 'little bit of tire' under the body, but I know if I go over speed bumps im gonna scrape the buttom somehow unless I had the abliliy to raise it.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=86094.0

That one is actually not bagged, leafes (spelling?) in the back!

[HPP]

If the car posted in the first post of this thread is in Sweden, consider their tax base allows them to have very nice roadways that are better maintainted than most anything you will find in the US. That allows them to get away with skinny sidewalls and stiff suspensions that would tear a car apart on almost any US road way.

[Brass]

Function and fit! 16-17-18-19 wheels look real nice
If your into the tiny 15" look that's ok too
But performance is in the bigger sizes
There is a limit to how big and yes a lot do cross the line!

Just remember little wheels =little brakes

Agreed.  I like the look of staggered 17" and 18".

[chargerboy69]

Agreed.  I like the look of staggered 17" and 18".

Yes, that is a great look. That's what I run.

[Wicked72]

i had 16 - 17 on my first 72 looked awsome.

[autodynamics]

Some people here on this forum at anti- plus size wheels
Glad to see a lot of you guys are out there!!!!

[DPL]

I've always been partial to 15" rims for muscle cars.  These are wrapped with 245-60 on the front and 295-50 in the rear.  Dropped as far as I could go while keeping it everyday-driveable.

[autodynamics]

I've always been partial to 15" rims for muscle cars.  These are wrapped with 245-60 on the front and 295-50 in the rear.  Dropped as far as I could go while keeping it everyday-driveable.

That looks good !
Fat and low !

[Lennard]

Fat and low with 15" wheels is my favorite!

[autodynamics]

Oooooooyeahhhhhh!!!! She's got hips also!!!

[1974dodgecharger]

Fat and low with 15" wheels is my favorite!

fck im confused I like yours also.....

[doctor4766]

I too like the fat n low look.

[bill440rt]

Depending on the style they don't look bad. Chip foose wheels are horrific in my opinion.  The torque thrusts look really good in big sizes and if they made a vector in a 16 or 17 I would probably buy it. The low profile tires would make a world of difference.

KWS' Extreme Lee with custom billet Vectors by Budnik. Sizes 18" & 19".
Would these be considered horrific or ghetto??  

[RIDELIKEHELL]

I like the look of an 18" but some of the 15" & 16" with the fat tire and lowered look great also. Too each their own 

[chargerboy69]

I like the look of an 18" but some of the 15" & 16" with the fat tire and lowered look great also. Too each their own 

Yes, I agree.

For the last couple years I thought larger wheels were the way to go.  After seeing a few of these Chargers, the "look" is all in the stance.  If you drop it down low it will look good no matter what.

[AirborneSilva]

16-17" would be bout the maximum for me. "Hitman's" post with the black Dodge looks tarded. Not enough backspacing on the wheels. Looks to "Hot wheels" to me.

See, you and I can agree on some things 

[Dino]

It's all about the ratio.  I see a lot of classics with bigger rims and they usually look stunning but sometimes people go overboard.  Looking at the black 68 in Sweden I think the wheels simply do not match the car, it looks wrong.  This is just my opinion, there's no real right or wrong until you start putting hi jacks and 24+" rims on them.   

I'm also a big fan of the deep dish rims, I just don't like Chargers without but there's exceptions. 

If you're racing the car thought you shouldn't be looking at the fashion side of things, only at what gets you through the corners fastest.

[AirborneSilva]

I'm also a big fan of the deep dish rims, I just don't like Chargers without but there's exceptions. 

If you're racing the car thought you shouldn't be looking at the fashion side of things, only at what gets you through the corners fastest.

[HPP]

For the last couple years I thought larger wheels were the way to go.  After seeing a few of these Chargers, the "look" is all in the stance.  If you drop it down low it will look good no matter what.

Ehhh, I'm not so sure. Stance is a HUGE part of it, but you can nail the stance and still have the wrong wheels on it. KWS's Ultiamte Lee has awful rims on it, IMO, but the stance is decent. I'm not saying all big rims are bad, some look good, but not all of them work well with classic lines.

[chargerboy69]

For the last couple years I thought larger wheels were the way to go.  After seeing a few of these Chargers, the "look" is all in the stance.  If you drop it down low it will look good no matter what.

Ehhh, I'm not so sure. Stance is a HUGE part of it, but you can nail the stance and still have the wrong wheels on it. KWS's Ultiamte Lee has awful rims on it, IMO, but the stance is decent. I'm not saying all big rims are bad, some look good, but not all of them work well with classic lines.

Thats true, I should have thought that through more before just typing it out.  Wheels do matter. . alot.  But like a couple of the Chargers pictured above with Vectors, they look so much better because of stance.  I feel if they where sitting higher, they would not look as good.  In my opinion the Vectors are a "alright" wheel.  But these guys above have their cars looking real good because of stance.

Some of the bigger wheels do suck, and no matter what, the stance will not help sh!tty wheels.

As a side note I like KWS's wheels.  Not everyones taste, but I think they look cool on his car.