Tony's Daytona discussion

[pettybird]

[resq302]

yes, but will you say that it never had any rust and other questionable stuff?

Nope. Im proud of my work. It was a total rust bucket when I got it. lots of non oe parts were used too!

[Charger-Bodie]

yes, but will you say that it never had any rust and other questionable stuff?

Nope. Im proud of my work. It was a total rust bucket when I got it. lots of non oe parts were used too!

Funny thing is that I got stuff from Dave(ECS) Tony and Mike Mancini to build the car.

ECS Carpet is the best availible. and Mike and /or his crew did a great job on the gauges and radio.

[ECS]

I'm still just trying to figure out who is pissing on who here for the last few months here and why, it seems like some people have too much time on their hands!

No one is "pissing" on anyone here!  I just figured that some people needed to experience first hand what they themselves have done to other people for many YEARS.  The only difference is that they lied about the people they targeted while their saga is being exposed with the truth. 

You might be right about your "time" observation.  I am currently sitting on a balcony over looking the Gulf of Mexico and don't know if I should take a walk on the Beach now or after the Sun sets.   

[Aero426]

You might be right about your "time" observation.  I am currently sitting on a balcony over looking the Gulf of Mexico and don't know if I should take a walk on the Beach now or after the Sun sets.    

Perfect!   I think it would be an excellent night for a bonfire.   

[resq302]

boy is that an old pic!  Talk about bringing something up from the dead!   

[cdr]

You might be right about your "time" observation.  I am currently sitting on a balcony over looking the Gulf of Mexico and don't know if I should take a walk on the Beach now or after the Sun sets.    

Perfect!   I think it would be an excellent night for a bonfire.   

oopps i crapped on my self

[ECS]

boy is that an old pic!  Talk about bringing something up from the dead!   

Heck Brian.....all this over silly ol' Build Sheets.  Rather than burn them, I might just give them away to anyone for the asking.  How about a round of Build Sheets for everyone!  

[Mytur Binsdirti]

With those three rolls, there really is enough to everybody's car & still have plenty left over. How many are you anticipating on doing? 

[ECS]

With those three rolls, there really is enough to everybody's car & still have plenty left over. How many are you anticipating on doing? 

Lets ask Mike?!  It appears that he is now the "Governor" of these items.    

[bill440rt]

I could use one for my '69. What are the codes for a 440 6-pack with A/C and a Keisler/GM trans??         

[moparstuart]

I could use one for my '69. What are the codes for a 440 6-pack with A/C and a Keisler/GM trans??         

yeah how is a superbird convertible  coded 

[Aero426]

boy is that an old pic!  Talk about bringing something up from the dead!  

Yes, it is a few years old.   But since it was tee'd up for me...  

Just for the sake of discussion, I did heard Dave say (it was just the other day, I swear to God, people) that he doesn't make build sheets for people any more, and it is all "old news".    But I did not hear him specifically say that he will never make build sheets again.  "Never" can be a hard word to say.    How about a You Tube video of the ECS blank build sheet burn party?    Or perhaps his inventory of blanks can be donated to help the less fortunate with their toiletry needs.

[ECS]

r the sake of discussion, I did heard Dave say (it was just the other day, I swear to God, people) that he doesn't make build sheets for people any more, and it is all "old news".    But I did not hear him specifically say that he will never make build sheets again.  "Never" can be a hard word to say.

I stand by everything I say to the nth degree.  One thing I have learned from the posts of many people on this forum is that you can parse words or find ways around the actual meaning of what's "really" intended.  As a matter of fact, some here bought into and even supported the devious play on words when you knew EXACTLY what was taking place.  That being said, I have quite a few really good employees who have mastered the manufacturing of our products.  They could take over the process and I would vow to "NEVER" make another one again.  What do you think?  Who is going to come out and support my manipulation of words?       

[Aero426]

r the sake of discussion, I did heard Dave say (it was just the other day, I swear to God, people) that he doesn't make build sheets for people any more, and it is all "old news".    But I did not hear him specifically say that he will never make build sheets again.  "Never" can be a hard word to say.

I stand by everything I say to the nth degree.  One thing I have learned from the posts of many people on this forum is that you can parse words or find ways around the actual meaning of what's "really" intended.  As a matter of fact, some here bought into and even supported the devious play on words when you knew EXACTLY what was taking place.  That being said, I have quite a few really good employees who have mastered the manufacturing of our products.  They could take over the process and I would vow to "NEVER" make another one again.  What do you think?  Who is going to come out and support my manipulation of words?       

This is a serious question.    When you say you "stand by everything", does that mean that you and your employees are not going to produce build sheets in the future under any circumstance?   

[ECS]

This is a serious question.    When you say you "stand by everything", does that mean that you and your employees are not going to produce build sheets in the future under any circumstance? 

I can't un-ring the bell.  They have already been produced.  You even posted a picture of them.  Is this a trick question? 

[Aero426]

I can't un-ring the bell.  They have already been produced.  You even posted a picture of them.  Is this a trick question? 

Not a trick question.   I think what you are saying is that since the blanks have been produced, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.  Correct?

[ECS]

I can't un-ring the bell.  They have already been produced.  You even posted a picture of them.  Is this a trick question? 

Not a trick question.   I think what you are saying is that since the blanks have been produced, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.  Correct?

Correct!  I'm not even sure which room they are being stored at in our new Facility.  I wouldn't guarantee that if a Friend wanted one, I wouldn't give one to them.  These were never a product offered to the public.  Of the few that received them, I either GAVE them away or just covered the cost of my Employees who helped in making them!  I have said before that the "classic" part of my business it is probably the least contributing concerning dollars & cents.  My wife even asked me to close that part of the business to re-direct our attention to the other lines that have recently taken off.  We invested a small fortune in Chrysler exhaust components so I was a bit shocked that she even suggested that.  Personally, the Classic Industry is my PASSION and I am fully committed to provide the best products, at the best price and with the best service.  I strive for absolute perfection & authenticity with everything we do!  If it isn't correct, it doesn't leave our building.  I don't ever see ECS not manufacturing products for the old car markets. 

To the contrary, I am moving full steam ahead with Factory correct Trunk Mats, expanding the applications for every decal we offer and Exhaust Systems for the GM Industry.  As I have said before, I am just a regular guy that has been fortunate enough to serve the people of this Hobby.  You may not like the way I respond sometimes but I guarantee I will NEVER lie to or mislead you and will ALWAYS do the best I can to promote the Hobby....not hurt it.  I serve the people in this Industry, not the other way around.

[resq302]

Dave,

At least with your stuff, we know we buy it once and its correct.     I've had to basicly pay twice and learn the hard way that not all repro stuff is correct fitting or appearing.  Thank you for being one of the people who take the time to make sure the thing is right the first time!

Brian

[ECS]

Dave,
At least with your stuff, we know we buy it once and its correct.  

That's what our "talentless" group of people have to offer when you receive items from at ECS.    You had also mentioned our 4 door project in an earlier post.  Below are some photos that show the flat metal components (shaped on an English Wheel) to form new C Pillars, that transitioned the roof section to the reshaped Quarters.  They had to be fabricated from scratch because there never were "original" C Pillars manufactured for what we are doing.  Also shown are the converted quarter panels that were cut and shaped for the 4 Door Cuda Project.  We may have no talent but we do try to be progressive with our efforts.

[moparstuart]

hey i'm as progressive as the next guy , but  a 4dr Cuda   

   not feeling it ,thats the answer to a question that no one should have asked .    

[Mytur Binsdirti]

You mean you actually do more than stickers?

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Dave - An off-topic question about your upcoming line of repro exhaust components... what is the the current estimated date of availability of the B-Body components?  In the post on Moparts a year ago, Tom indicated they were expected fairly soon:

Seriously, the dates we will initially be offering are 2049 - July 1969 manufacturing date and 1960 - July 1970 manufacturing date. Those will cover all 1970 and 1971 model years. The resonators will be available from ECS in the next week or two. The complete sets and related components should be ready sometime in June or early July. The B Body models are next on the list and hopefully be ready by Summer's end or Fall. Since we own the machinery for manufacturing the pipes, we can probably have just about any style of Head Pipe or H-Pipe correctly reproduced. We also will have either aluminized or natural metal pipes available for the exhaust systems.

My loooong restoration project for my 1969 Charger 500 is nearing completion, and I would like to use ECS exhaust components on it...

Allen

[ECS]

You mean you actually do more than stickers?

Maybe just a few things!   Here are some of the new "stickers" we had made along with other "stickers" that we manufacture for some of the larger distributors that many of you purchase your parts from.  The shipping for these "stickers" vary due to size and weight but we do not add an up-charge to our shipping cost.  The B Body Exhausts Mufflers are ready and we have already sold out of our first run!  We will have another 5 pallets delivered within the next two weeks so we won't run out of them so quickly.  We are calling people back (in the "first come; first serve" order they called) to let them know when we will have them. 

[maxwellwedge]

I have a few E-Body resonators and have seen the B-Body mufflers.....Nice work DW