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this guy didn't even notice how lucky he was to be alive

Started by mauve66, June 28, 2012, 06:29:20 PM

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mauve66

traffic so heavy the trk couldn't get over, i used to cringe going by pulled over HP when i couldn't get over, this guy needs to start living a better life quick

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Indygenerallee

 :o HOLY SHIIIIIIITTTT!!! That Dude better buy a scratch off!!!!
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

mauve66

i don't know if they sell them in the pokey though.........
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Fred



Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

Dino

I hope that big rig driver was wearing his depends!   :o
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Back N Black

WOW!  what would the cop be charged if the guy died under the truck?

Vainglory, Esq.


BigBlockSam

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2Gunz

WOW just wow.


The driver is a moron.

And the officer shows bad judgement over and over.

Pretty insane.

Mike DC

 :Twocents:

We can't reduce the criminal punishments for weed.  The privatized prison industry is in desperate need of those profitable nonviolent offenders.   

Cooter

I got a few Officers in the family, and I just love how "Badass" talking some of those comments are. When they know full and well if they even thought about trying to lay hands on an officer, they'd be laying in the street crying like a baby like this idiot. Do as your told, and you won't be tased. Simple...
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Fred

Quote from: Cooter on July 03, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
I got a few Officers in the family, and I just love how "Badass" talking some of those comments are. When they know full and well if they even thought about trying to lay hands on an officer, they'd be laying in the street crying like a baby like this idiot. Do as your told, and you won't be tased. Simple...

:iagree:


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FLG

Quote from: Fred on July 03, 2012, 01:00:31 AM
Quote from: Cooter on July 03, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
I got a few Officers in the family, and I just love how "Badass" talking some of those comments are. When they know full and well if they even thought about trying to lay hands on an officer, they'd be laying in the street crying like a baby like this idiot. Do as your told, and you won't be tased. Simple...

:iagree:


Couldnt agree more, unless the guy was selling the stuff if he had just been straight with the officer from the get go, and he really didnt have much...chances are he would have gotten a ticket and sent on his way.

2Gunz

Quote from: Cooter on July 03, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
I got a few Officers in the family, and I just love how "Badass" talking some of those comments are. When they know full and well if they even thought about trying to lay hands on an officer, they'd be laying in the street crying like a baby like this idiot. Do as your told, and you won't be tased. Simple...


Im not sure if that was directed at me or not.  But reguardless...........


You comment is exactly what I find wrong and disturbing with the video.    "they'd be laying in the street crying like a baby like this idiot. Do as your told, and you won't be tased. Simple..."

A police officers job is to uphold the law. Not be judge and jury.
As citizens we have rights. When the time comes that we must blindly follow what the "system" tells us to do, that is the point when all is lost.

I watched the video a few times.  From what I see the Cop gets aggrovated that the man is taking to long to empty his pockets.  So he pulls the taser and takes an aggressive stance and begins saying
things like "pull it out or Im going to pop you with it".

If he has no patience and/or cant think of another option other than to tase this man AND almost get him killed......
He simply should NOT be an officer.

My feeling is this.  If you have the power to tell me what to do and you have the power to detain me against my will.  Then my life is your responsibility.
Even if Im a retard, and EVEN if I deserve it, you better be Fu#ki&g smart enough and responsible enough to get me to my destination unharmed.
At the simplist level, Because that is your oath and your job.

What if your son, your brother, your friend got tased over something simple and ended dieing as a direct result of a police officers bad judgement?  How would you feel about that?


Ultimately I think the driver is a moron. And I think that had he have pulled the stuff out of his pockets sooner he woudnt have gotten tased.
But thats not my point. The officer tased him like 5 times, almost gets him killed in the road and Im still not sure for what.


Anyway Thats me, flame away!







Dino

Quote from: 2Gunz on July 03, 2012, 06:13:40 AM
Quote from: Cooter on July 03, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
I got a few Officers in the family, and I just love how "Badass" talking some of those comments are. When they know full and well if they even thought about trying to lay hands on an officer, they'd be laying in the street crying like a baby like this idiot. Do as your told, and you won't be tased. Simple...


Im not sure if that was directed at me or not.  But reguardless...........


You comment is exactly what I find wrong and disturbing with the video.    "they'd be laying in the street crying like a baby like this idiot. Do as your told, and you won't be tased. Simple..."

A police officers job is to uphold the law. Not be judge and jury.
As citizens we have rights. When the time comes that we must blindly follow what the "system" tells us to do, that is the point when all is lost.

I watched the video a few times.  From what I see the Cop gets aggrovated that the man is taking to long to empty his pockets.  So he pulls the taser and takes an aggressive stance and begins saying
things like "pull it out or Im going to pop you with it".

If he has no patience and/or cant think of another option other than to tase this man AND almost get him killed......
He simply should NOT be an officer.

My feeling is this.  If you have the power to tell me what to do and you have the power to detain me against my will.  Then my life is your responsibility.
Even if Im a retard, and EVEN if I deserve it, you better be Fu#ki&g smart enough and responsible enough to get me to my destination unharmed.
At the simplist level, Because that is your oath and your job.

What if your son, your brother, your friend got tased over something simple and ended dieing as a direct result of a police officers bad judgement?  How would you feel about that?


Ultimately I think the driver is a moron. And I think that had he have pulled the stuff out of his pockets sooner he woudnt have gotten tased.
But thats not my point. The officer tased him like 5 times, almost gets him killed in the road and Im still not sure for what.


Anyway Thats me, flame away!








No need to flame, you're right on the money.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


mauve66

the guy on the highway stated he didn't have any drugs or weapons, then he starts pulling shit out of his pockets, the officer didn't know what else he was going to do.  he couldn't follow the simple directions the officer told him then started to run away.  I guess it would of been better to start a high speed chase and possibly kill SOMEONE ELSE KILLED and cause untold property damage just to protect a convicted felon from getting tazed because he couldn't do what he was told.
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Cops tazer people because they're fat and cant run.
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Cooter

Quote from: 2Gunz on July 03, 2012, 06:13:40 AM
Quote from: Cooter on July 03, 2012, 12:24:28 AM
I got a few Officers in the family, and I just love how "Badass" talking some of those comments are. When they know full and well if they even thought about trying to lay hands on an officer, they'd be laying in the street crying like a baby like this idiot. Do as your told, and you won't be tased. Simple...


Im not sure if that was directed at me or not.  But reguardless...........



Anyway Thats me, flame away!

Nope, wasn't directed at anybody but the idiot that said he'd "beat that cops ass", or something like that.

You asked if it were one of my own family? Well, I look at it this way...If they were so stupid that they didn't comply (Like the "Gentleman" in this video) then they deserved everything they got. You are gonna tell me that it is the cops job to protect people from themselves? Yeah, good luck with that one.

Sure, I possibly could try and jump on the "Sue the hell outta the cops because my idiot cousin or whatever can't follow directions and got himself/herself tazed and fell into on coming traffic" Lawsuit, but that's what I believe is wrong with this country right now...Too many bleeding hearts for idiots.

How many times did the cop YELL at that idiot to move away from oncoming traffic? I counted at least twice, maybe more. Hell, it's a STATE LAW in Va. now you are REQUIRED to move to the other side of the road and SLOW DOWN when you see and officer with someone pulled over. It's because of idiots that hit cops on the side of the road that WEREN'T tazed..

I know better than to stand that close to on coming traffic, refuse the officers orders, then basically, DARE him to taze me...But, then again, that's just me.
You say maybe he was "Retarded" and the cop should have protected him from himself? Last I checked, they don't let "Mentally handicapped" folks drive themsleves around because well......I guess they'd act like this idiot.
It certainly is easy to play "Monday Morning Quarterback" when you haven't had to deal with idiots out there that do the STUPIDEST things.

1. There's a reason one doesn't walk down a street in South Central LA with a sign on with the "N" word on it. READ: STUPID Sure, you have the "Right" to do it, but it is STUPID none the less.
2. Drive 150 MPH down the interstate. STUPID, but you have the "Right" none the less.
3. Walk down certain streets in LA Gang territory with the wrong color on. STUPID..But it's your "Right" none the less.
4. Walk into a "True" Biker bar and walk right up to the biggest one in there and say something bout his ol lady. STUPID, but your "Right" none the less.

Had my cousin tell me about a call one time he was sent on.....
An off duty officer witnessed a possible drunk driver weaving all over the road. Radio'd in to my cousin as he was on duty, to follow this guy home and check it out. Officer(Cousin) pulls up in front of the house with lights blaring(No siren), stops, gets out, walks up to front door, knocks on door, and gets no answer. Meanwhile the garage door is up, suspects car is running in the garage, radio BLARING. Knocks on front door about four times, again, no answer. Finally, he sees movement inside the house. Officer(Cousin) remembers that he MUST be heading for a side door right? Walks around to the side of house and out comes this idiot with a pistol in his hand....Officer(Cousin) tells him to drop the weapon NOW!.

Wanna guess what kind of STUPID move this idiot made? Sho nuff, he begins to demand he has a "Right" to "Defend" his home....WTF????
Officer(Cousin) demands he put down the weapon again, or he's taking one in the chest. Dude finally lays the gun down. For a split second though, my cousin told me he could see it in dudes eyes he thought about firing....After it was all over, Cousin is sitting on the curb outside talking with dude and tells him "You know how close you came to getting shot?"

Wanna guess what stupid sh*t came out of this guys mouth then?  Yep, "I still got a right to defend my house"...Cousin asks him "You heard me clearly state "police officer" when I knocked on the door four times right? Don't tell me you didn't, because I saw you move around to the side door..Your gonna sit there and tell me you didn't see my crusier sitting out there with all those lights blaring?"
Now, lemme tell you what I think happened and you tell me if I'm wrong...
"I think you thought somehow I could write you for DUI AFTER the fact, and you figured for a split second you might shoot things out with me. You might be drunk, and not thinking clearly, but you had to know that I couldn't do anything to you as I got to your house AFTER the fact and didn't see you driving right? I mean, afterall, you know your rights and all right?"

THIS is what kind of idiots are voting, living next door, and generally suing McDonalds for spilling hot coffee on their crotches. I don't know bout YOU, but I haven't seen a $3 million crotch on a woman...EVER...


Am I saying that ALL cops are "Good"? Certainly not, but I damn sure see an idiot for what he/she is and this guy was just plain lucky that the good lord above along with that truck driver, saw fit to leave him here to commit more crimes.
Only saving grace is one fine day, he will run out of luck and the rest of the god fearing, police obeying, taxpaying, citizens will be rid of his dumass.
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68 Bullitt Charger

Geeee  you know what I find so funny about some of the above posts from some of these guys above......    Here it is.....

As a retired(2009) Highway Patrol Officer here in NY, when I pulled over the asshole's for various traffic infraction's, they 99% of the time kissed my Azzzz while I had them pulled over and BEGGING me to let them off on a warning. These were the tough Guys like the couple above this post of mine that are here talking all kinds of B/S.

The video demostrate's the typical As*hole Motorist's who know's everything yet as the Officer ask's him several time's to move away from the road he wants to be a tough guy and almost gets his Azzz run over. Personally Officer's are here for public safety, not public stupidity or babysitting. If this Guy had been run over, Oh then it was the cop's fault, right? Yeah well wrong. His fault for acting like a typical As*hole and being disrespectful towards the Officer.

He Tasered him and did him a favor. Who the hell is he to not comply to a lawful order?  We as Officer's have to play Doctor, Mommy, Daddy, Psyscologist, Babysitter, Referee, Life Saver and most of all, allow People to, for no reason, be disrespectful, nasty and rude because they feel like the Officer should take it.  Not me, talk to me disrespectful on or off the job, we have a problem, Period.

As far as the comment about being to fat and having to Taser someone.....  I am 6'2 240 and trust me, I never needed to Taser anyone my Friend and I can run like hell!! Talk like Men, not like Hater's.
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How could the cop be sure that the guy wasn't just running back to the cab of his truck to get a pistol?   It wouldn't be the first time somebody did that.   


The guy brought the zapping on himself = he brought the unintended consequences of the zapping on himself.  

 

myk

Quote from: 2Gunz on June 30, 2012, 02:04:13 AM
WOW just wow.


The driver is a moron.

And the officer shows bad judgement over and over.

Pretty insane.

Agreed.

doctor4766

Quote from: Patronus on July 03, 2012, 09:27:36 PM
Cops tazer people because they're fat and cant run.
They shouldnt be so judgemental lol
Gotta love a '69

Fred

Quote from: 68 Bullitt Charger on July 03, 2012, 11:46:22 PM
Geeee  you know what I find so funny about some of the above posts from some of these guys above......    Here it is.....

As a retired(2009) Highway Patrol Officer here in NY, when I pulled over the asshole's for various traffic infraction's, they 99% of the time kissed my Azzzz while I had them pulled over and BEGGING me to let them off on a warning. These were the tough Guys like the couple above this post of mine that are here talking all kinds of B/S.

The video demostrate's the typical As*hole Motorist's who know's everything yet as the Officer ask's him several time's to move away from the road he wants to be a tough guy and almost gets his Azzz run over. Personally Officer's are here for public safety, not public stupidity or babysitting. If this Guy had been run over, Oh then it was the cop's fault, right? Yeah well wrong. His fault for acting like a typical As*hole and being disrespectful towards the Officer.

He Tasered him and did him a favor. Who the hell is he to not comply to a lawful order?  We as Officer's have to play Doctor, Mommy, Daddy, Psyscologist, Babysitter, Referee, Life Saver and most of all, allow People to, for no reason, be disrespectful, nasty and rude because they feel like the Officer should take it.  Not me, talk to me disrespectful on or off the job, we have a problem, Period.

As far as the comment about being to fat and having to Taser someone.....  I am 6'2 240 and trust me, I never needed to Taser anyone my Friend and I can run like hell!! Talk like Men, not like Hater's.

I for one am always respectful towards Officers of the law. I don't envy them their jobs, it can't be easy. Plus I find it annoying when the police force is constantly being attacked by the public and civil rights activists for so called mishandling of citizens when they are really only doing their job to the best of their ability.
I say more power to you. Compliance and respect goes a long way.


Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

myk

Quote from: 68 Bullitt Charger on July 03, 2012, 11:46:22 PM
Geeee  you know what I find so funny about some of the above posts from some of these guys above......    Here it is.....

As a retired(2009) Highway Patrol Officer here in NY, when I pulled over the asshole's for various traffic infraction's, they 99% of the time kissed my Azzzz while I had them pulled over and BEGGING me to let them off on a warning. These were the tough Guys like the couple above this post of mine that are here talking all kinds of B/S.

The video demostrate's the typical As*hole Motorist's who know's everything yet as the Officer ask's him several time's to move away from the road he wants to be a tough guy and almost gets his Azzz run over. Personally Officer's are here for public safety, not public stupidity or babysitting. If this Guy had been run over, Oh then it was the cop's fault, right? Yeah well wrong. His fault for acting like a typical As*hole and being disrespectful towards the Officer.

He Tasered him and did him a favor. Who the hell is he to not comply to a lawful order?  We as Officer's have to play Doctor, Mommy, Daddy, Psyscologist, Babysitter, Referee, Life Saver and most of all, allow People to, for no reason, be disrespectful, nasty and rude because they feel like the Officer should take it.  Not me, talk to me disrespectful on or off the job, we have a problem, Period.

As far as the comment about being to fat and having to Taser someone.....  I am 6'2 240 and trust me, I never needed to Taser anyone my Friend and I can run like hell!! Talk like Men, not like Hater's.

With all due respect I think you need to take a deep breath and step back a bit.  To begin with, I believe that your line of work is a highly admirable thing that few people have the capability or the courage to do, and I thank you and your brothers and sisters for your work and sacrifice.  With that being said, it's important to keep in mind that "serving and protecting" applies to everyone, not just the innocent.  I am not an officer of the law, I am not trained in their techniques, but even a layman such as myself knows that there are policies that direct officers to not allow the lives of anyone, whether they be innocent, criminal or otherwise to come into harms way above all costs.  Unfortunately, I do not think that tasering a man adjacent to rush-hour, 18 wheeler traffic is a tactically smart or safe thing do to; it's mere LUCK that idiot driver did not get steam rolled by the semi truck.  

Now the question could be asked, "Gee Myk, then what the f**k would you have done if you had been there?"   Again, I do not claim to be trained or knowledgeable in police tactics, but in my unprofessional, untrained opinion I maybe would have allowed the idiot driver to run.  Why?  Well where is he going to run to?  He can either run around his car and the patrol car in circles till he gets caught, or gives up upon discovering how much of an idiot he is.  If during this attempt to escape he falls into oncoming traffic well.........it would be on the idiot driver because he chose to run instead of surrendering himself to the law.  When someone is tased they don't have much of a choice-they're going down at the point they are struck with the taser, and the officer should have acknowledged the potential danger of falling down into oncoming traffic.  

Take a look at police car chases for example.  Over the years it's become the policy to not follow as closely and not pursue as aggressively.  Why?  Because to do so would increase the risk of property and damage, casualties or even death.  If police cars in chases have to exercise care and caution when handling a criminal then it should apply to officers on their feet as well, and they have to take into account the possibility of casualties on ALL sides.  

Please do not mistake me for a bleeding heart liberal that believes criminality should be rewarded by the over-sympathetic tendencies of an over-compassionate society, but there have to be smarter, safer ways of dealing with situations.  Someone made the comment that basically said that this weed carrying idiot-driver didn't need such strong action against him.  Well, I would also say that this weed carrying idiot didn't need to be laid out in front of rush hour traffic either.  Now, is it possible that the officer felt that his life was threatened and he felt he had no choice?  Possibly, I wasn't there, and I'm not a trained officer, but he is one,  and I like to think that a professional, trained officer has more options in these situations.  Again, men and women of the law do not misunderstand me; I wish you all to be safe as you continue to protect us all...God Bless...

Cooter

"If police cars in chases have to exercise care and caution when handling a criminal then it should apply to officers on their feet as well, and they have to take into account the possibility of casualties on ALL sides."

Taking a stab in the dark here on this one, but I'm thinking everything changes when you have a gun pulled and pointed on you face to face instead of trying to shoot from a car moving @ 55MPH. Chances are face to face your more likely to get a kill shot...Just a thought.

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Hello "myk" and "Fred",

"myk" I just to say I appreciate and respect your feeling's, as I do for everyone however as you hae said, you are not an Officer and really do not know how hard and the decision making that needs to be done everyday and in split seconds which can determine the public and Officer's fate. I do think MOST of the Public has excellent common sense, law biding, respectful and most important, would never place themselve's or an Officer in such a negative, and or dangerous situation.

Although I disagree with you about what course of action the Officer took or should have taken, the Officer clearly saved his life as he made no attempt to want to save his own life. This behavior is typical with a criminal minded person, and or a suicidal person who has no regard for anyone including himself. It is so easy to Monday morning quarter back, make fun of the Officer, say disrespectful thing's like some Member's above here have however when your Family or Yourself is in serious trouble or seriously hurt, the Public call's us to help or save you as best as possible. We are the first person there along with the Fire Dept and EMS/EMT's.

When I saw the disrespectful post from a couple People above I saw RED! I never treat any person, whether they work in IBM or the Morgue, with any negative judgement and or disrespectful comment's. I find it best to appreciate People for who and what they are and enjoy meeting new People. Once again I appreciate your feeling's and hope you can understand why I fired back on my other post.

"Fred" you are 100% correct Sir. The respect you give is the respect you receive in LIFE!

Thanks Guys,
Joe
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Cooter

At the end of the day, what have we learned class?


When the taser is mentioned(IE Last warning) you either comply, or you will be forced to comply. (Albeit crying and whimpering on the ground like a little b*tch), but you WILL comply.
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2Gunz


I have a few questions that I would love answered.

Why did the Officer pull him over in this location to begin with?
    He obviously knows its dangerous as he approaches from the passenger side.
     Why not the next exit or further of the shoulder?


Why did he get tasered exactly?
      From what I see the cop got spooked when he decided to run, and shot him.
      I personally think it was a horrible call based on the danger of the road.  But I get it, split second to react. Fine.
      It is what it was. I get it.  I bet if he had a chance to do it again he would have picked differently. cool.

       But what I really dont get is this. Why did he pull out the taser to begin with? The officer should be trying to defuse
        the situation. Instead hes throwing fuel on the fire.

        If you pull the taser on me and start telling me your going to "pop" me.  Suddenly its fight or flight time.
        I dont care if your the police or Jesus Christ, if you have something that can hurt me......  my brain is now racing through
        my options.

     
And why continue to taser him on the ground?

If the officer though he was in danger, why not put him in cuffs after exiting the vehicle?
              Ive never been arrested.  But I live in LA and Im pretty sure if Im out of the car Im in cuffs.



my thoughts..

       



     

myk

Quote from: Cooter on July 04, 2012, 09:00:40 AM
"If police cars in chases have to exercise care and caution when handling a criminal then it should apply to officers on their feet as well, and they have to take into account the possibility of casualties on ALL sides."

Taking a stab in the dark here on this one, but I'm thinking everything changes when you have a gun pulled and pointed on you face to face instead of trying to shoot from a car moving @ 55MPH. Chances are face to face your more likely to get a kill shot...Just a thought.



Agreed, but in the video I don't recall seeing anything resembling a weapon coming into play.  Again, I wasn't there, maybe the officer DID feel a weapon was about to be used on him.  In that case, well, as far as I'm concerned anyone who brandishes any sort of malicious intent, especially a weapon such as a gun towards a police officer will deserve whatever happens to them...

Fred

Put yourself in the place of the Officer. Would you take a chance on this possibly being your last day on Earth.
It's hard to judge what today's delinquents will do when confronted. Consequences don't come into it and mostly they're not even remorseful afterwards.  And dead is dead however sorry the perpetrator might be after the deed. They risk their lives on our behalf every day. It's a job I wouldn't want. Once again...........more power to them.


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Mike DC

          
The cop asked the  guy to turn out his pockets, and the guy kept resisting doing it, particularly once the cop focused in on a certain pocket.  Then the guy made a dash for the cab of his vehicle.  Either of those things is individually enough to suggest trouble, potentially a weapon.  


The cop "threatening" to zap the guy is one way to look at it.  

Another way to look at it would be the cop was warning the guy that he was starting to feel threatened.  Therefore the guy should start doing exactly what he's told to avoid a zap.  



myk

Just how many times did that idiot get tazed anyway?  Aren't those things capable of dropping most people with one or two hits?  Maybe the driver was under the influence of something...

General_01

Any time somebody doesn't want to comply with a police officer's request, they are asking for trouble. It means you are trying to hide something. The police are not mind readers nor do they have x-ray vision. They don't know if you are hiding drugs, a weapon or if your just embarrassed to pull a condom out of your pocket. All I know is that NO officer is going to risk their life by ASSUMING you mean no harm.  :Twocents:
   
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Fred

Quote from: myk on July 07, 2012, 03:16:50 AM
Just how many times did that idiot get tazed anyway?  Aren't those things capable of dropping most people with one or two hits?  Maybe the driver was under the influence of something...

And that's what makes him so dangerous!


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Everyone is an expert on the actions of cops when it comes to hindsight. For some reason people really get off on cops "overreacting" once the entire scenario has played out. The fact is, cops are no more psychic than anyone else. They don't know if the people they just met are getting ready to run, trying to get a gun, heading back into the car for a snack, etc., and so they rely on procedures and compliance on the part of the suspect. If you are too stupid to follow directions the cop has to assume you are up to no good and will put self-preservation at the highest priority. I would too if I had that job. I wouldn't give anyone the benefit of the doubt because that's a good way to get killed in that line of work. If I were a cop and I was dealing with a suspect that wouldn't follow instructions, I'd tase him until he filled his shorts and started speaking a new dialect of Klingon before I'd run the risk of getting killed.

Mike DC

QuoteEveryone is an expert on the actions of cops when it comes to hindsight. For some reason people really get off on cops "overreacting" once the entire scenario has played out. The fact is, cops are no more psychic than anyone else. They don't know if the people they just met are getting ready to run, trying to get a gun, heading back into the car for a snack, etc., and so they rely on procedures and compliance on the part of the suspect. If you are too stupid to follow directions the cop has to assume you are up to no good and will put self-preservation at the highest priority. I would too if I had that job. I wouldn't give anyone the benefit of the doubt because that's a good way to get killed in that line of work. If I were a cop and I was dealing with a suspect that wouldn't follow instructions, I'd tase him until he filled his shorts and started speaking a new dialect of Klingon before I'd run the risk of getting killed.

Agree.  

People forget that the cop didn't get any replays of the incident.  No slo-mo shots.  He didn't know the title & description of the youtube clip ahead of time.  He didn't get to discuss it with anyone else and spend a few minutes or hours coming to a conclusion. He only had one real-time shot at making the right decision and his life may have been on the line.

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Also, the viewers seem to forget all the stuff leading up to the arrest. The cop was courteous and polite when he asked for the suspect's paperwork and it was after he ran his history that things got a little tense. Obviously the results showed that he had previous trouble with the law. I don't know what all that history showed (and none of the armchair cops do either) but it might have showed the suspect had a propensity for violence. Maybe it didn't but either way it showed that he had priors. So in that case, when you see a criminal fidgeting in their pocket for something you cannot see, anyone with a brain and even a mild sense of self-preservation would probably get more than a little nervous and want to do all they can to protect themselves. The suspect lived to see another day despite himself and for that I think he should be very grateful. He could have very easily gotten a couple of 9mm rounds to the chest and then gotten run over by a semi but he lived because the cop did his job.

Here in Oregon it's now law for passing traffic to get into the next lane over to avoid situations like this. Not that I think we need more laws on the books but it should be common sense for passing drivers to give cops and suspects a little breathing room when they're right next to the fog line like that.

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Hi again Fellas, Just back from the 100+ degree Carlisle Event....   Anyway I just started again to read the comment's, feeling's, etc regarding this situation as well as other Police encounter's that happen day in and day out. As some here know already, I am a recently retired NY Highway Patrolman and had 18.5 year's in and retired 9-11 sick from the WTC. I would like to jump in here if you Folk's do not mind.

There are some wonderful posts I have read here from my fellow Member's and even a Member who may not agree and or understand the Officer's action however he asked question's and was very respectful. The video display's the sign's of 1 of 2 type of People meaning either the Motorist's was DWI/DUI and or Criminal minded with something to hide. The action's taken by the Officer IMO, under the circumstance's are very much justified as the Officer warned the Motorist several time's and I feel the Motorist's in this case was well aware of the danger's to himself and the Officer however he appeared not to care either way making this situation a Crime. The Taser is designed to "zap" a person once and usually make the person comply which would then lead to handcuffing and arrest. In this case the Motorist was "Zapped" however the Taser effect sometime's does not have the same from one person to another therefore the treat is still very present and real toward's the Officer. The Officer has second's to make a decision that can change their live's as well as the Civilian's life and Officer's are only human being's. As a Man, when my life was threatened I reacted in hope's that a correct, unviolent and fair judgement was made to protect both the Civilian and Officer.


Please try to keep an open mind when it come's to making slit second decision's as no one person is perfect nor do they know everything good and bad. Remember, the Public know's who we are however we never know who you are. Thank's for listening and God Bless. :cheers:

Regard's,
Joe C NY
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