Heads up on AMD door skins for 70 guys

[charger_fan_4ever]

Put a door skin on the passengers door this week. As you can see the fins on the door scallops are too long and stick out past the door scoop a good 2 inches. On a 70 non r/t without the scoops i guess as long as you changed both skins you could get away with it.

Pretty sure the outer skin was the same on all 68-70s. Compared the skin to the original door and the fin jets out further back than the original. Hello hammer/dolly/putty

[twodko]

Oh man, that's not good even doing both doors. IMO

[charger_fan_4ever]

Oh man, that's not good even doing both doors. IMO

For sure not, but if it was a non R/T you wouldn't have the scoops to pronounce the extra length.

Hammer and dolly time.

[Dino]

Holy cow, I know the tolerances on these cars are a joke but that's no laughing matter!  Did you let AMD know?  I'd try to get a partial refund at least as you'll be spending a bit of time fixing that.

[charger_fan_4ever]

Holy cow, I know the tolerances on these cars are a joke but that's no laughing matter!  Did you let AMD know?  I'd try to get a partial refund at least as you'll be spending a bit of time fixing that.

Check my resto thread if i had contacted them about all the issues with their parts none of the metal would be on the car lol. Skinned the whole car and the only thing that was made correct and fit correct was the 1 piece trunk pan. Even the 1 piece floor needed some massaging over the torsion bar member.

I know a member Ryan said he contacted them and sent stuff back to get the same part in return and they just claim like your the only one with the issue.

Its obvious its in the stamp, so for sure the replacement would be the same. Not to mention there is ripples full length of the panel, just like the full 1/4's and roof skin, and rear valance corners that don't come close to fitting and the rear valance that has an incorrect bend, and the tail light buckets that are welded crooked in the tail panel that had to be dismembered and rewelded, and the dutchman/ 1/4 panels that don't fit the lower corner window trim, LOL

Oh well at least its something to work with. Years ago my car would have been junked without the availability of new metal.

[Dino]

Holy cow, I know the tolerances on these cars are a joke but that's no laughing matter!  Did you let AMD know?  I'd try to get a partial refund at least as you'll be spending a bit of time fixing that.

Check my resto thread if i had contacted them about all the issues with their parts none of the metal would be on the car lol. Skinned the whole car and the only thing that was made correct and fit correct was the 1 piece trunk pan. Even the 1 piece floor needed some massaging over the torsion bar member.

I know a member Ryan said he contacted them and sent stuff back to get the same part in return and they just claim like your the only one with the issue.

Its obvious its in the stamp, so for sure the replacement would be the same. Not to mention there is ripples full length of the panel, just like the full 1/4's and roof skin, and rear valance corners that don't come close to fitting and the rear valance that has an incorrect bend, and the tail light buckets that are welded crooked in the tail panel that had to be dismembered and rewelded, and the dutchman/ 1/4 panels that don't fit the lower corner window trim. LOL

Oh well at least its something to work with. Years ago my car would have been junked without the availability of new metal.

Woah I guess you need to play the cards you were dealt huh?  Looks like there's nothing to do than massage this one as well.  I'm assuming you have a plan for the door skins?

[charger_fan_4ever]

My brothers are doing the metal/body work. He will fix it just more time to fix sub par repro stuff. The camaro/mustang repro metal is fairly cheap, so you would expect some "work" involved. The mopar stuff is double the price and more sometimes vs brand X. You would think better quality..... guess not.

If guys still have access to rust free door shells in the $300 price range snag em. I looked for 6 months for a clean door within a few hours driving distance. After going to see 2 rotted out doors like I already had i gave up and bought a skin. Used to be sets of doors at all shows around here. Now just the odd rotten one.

[AKcharger]

I was wondering about AMD parts....so I gather they are far from "bolt-on/weld-on" replacements parts?

[charger_fan_4ever]

I was wondering about AMD parts....so I gather they are far from "bolt-on/weld-on" replacements parts?

Yes all of it needs tweaking. Some parts more than others. I recall reading they made all the molds from NOS parts. I know NOS parts got shelf wear over the years and some were seconds to begin with, but I have a hard time believing they used NOS parts. Take the door skin for example. A NOS skin didn't have longer body lines.....

[charger_fan_4ever]

I received an email back from AMD saying that they will look into it for future production runs. I also brought up some of the other fitment issues with the 1/4's deck filler,end caps and tail panel light buckets.

Some pics of other metal issues.


Look at how the light fits in the bucket before we had to cut them off the panel and reposition them


Notice the wavy body line thats not shipping defects


Valance end caps were a joke



Look how much of a section had to be added to fit. Both sides were the same. Passengers slightly worse had to be tweaked where it fit the 1/4 too.

[1970Moparmann]

Man I'm really surprised at some of the comments here.  With my 68, I had to buy -

Floors
Full quarters
Rockers  (I think I literally got the first set)
Front Valance
Rear Valance

All fit like a glove-not one problem!

For my sisters 70, just ordered front frame rails, awesome no problems!

I have only had good experiences with AMD and THANK them for doing what they do.   

[charger_fan_4ever]

Man I'm really surprised at some of the comments here.  With my 68, I had to buy -

Floors
Full quarters
Rockers  (I think I literally got the first set)
Front Valance
Rear Valance

All fit like a glove-not one problem!

For my sisters 70, just ordered front frame rails, awesome no problems!


I have only had good experiences with AMD and THANK them for doing what they do.  

Your 1/4's had no waves and wandering body lines like pictured above ? maybe its an issue with the 70 1/4 stamp ?

The valance corners fit the valance and 1/4 out of the box with a correct close seam both sides  ? I'm surprised as Gtx68's thread and Ryans thread both also had nightmares with valance corners and their window trim corners not fitting the deck filler to sail panel corner.

Like I said I'm glad to have something to work with, but for the price I feel the quality should be better. Bondoing $1800 quarters full length to correct the lines and waves  

[1970Moparmann]

Man I'm really surprised at some of the comments here.  With my 68, I had to buy -

Floors
Full quarters
Rockers  (I think I literally got the first set)
Front Valance
Rear Valance

All fit like a glove-not one problem!

I have only had good experiences with AMD and THANK them for doing what they do.  

Your 1/4's had no waves and wandering body lines like pictured above ? maybe its an issue with the 70 1/4 stamp ?

The valance corners fit the valance and 1/4 out of the box with a correct close seam both sides  ? I'm surprised as Gtx68's thread and Ryans thread both also had nightmares with valance corners and their window trim corners not fitting the deck filler to sail panel corner.

Like I said I'm glad to have something to work with, but for the price I feel the quality should be better. Bondoing $1800 quarters full length to correct the lines and waves  

The quarters did need some filler, but nothing out of the ordinary for quarter replacements.  For all half quarters or the Goodmark ones, there was a lot more filler.    My main concern were the seams, and they were nuts on.

I'll post pictures when I find them.

[charger_fan_4ever]

The seams and gap at the jamb were great, but about a foot back from the door the lines start to go wavy. The drivers side was tolerable, but the passengers side body lines are sub par.

[AKcharger]

Thanks for posting! very interesting!

[69 OUR/TEA]

Thats a shame,I've had great luck with AMD stuff on a 70 Cuda I'm doing.

[68RT440]

Were using some AMD parts on the '68 and its hit or miss for us. The 1 piece trunk pan fit like a glove, but I had to cut up the outer wheelhousings because the wheel well flanges werent close to fitting the quarters, and the trunk extensions are the same way...the rear vlance seems decent but its just half clamped into place, and as for the valance corners...well its the same story as everyone else has with those...

[Indygenerallee]

My full quarters from AMD are a joke, had a bunch of waves and imperfections, need a ton of work.

[1970Moparmann]

Here were my quarters- 





I'm not saying AMD products are perfect, but for me based on what I have seen before, very happy.

The quarters could easily get damaged in shipping also.  These things are HUGE.

[charger_fan_4ever]

Here were my quarters-  





I'm not saying AMD products are perfect, but for me based on what I have seen before, very happy.

The quarters could easily get damaged in shipping also.  These things are HUGE.

I'm sure mine will need as much putty. Even more so on the top line as its all wavy. Interesting looks like your passengers side was the worst too. IMO for the price of them I'd be ok with just sray bondo and blocking to get laser straight. I don't think a new panel should require that much putty work before you can start blocking them. I'd understand on 1/2 quarters as the heat from the wld distorts the meal, but not the case with full 1/4's.
We tend to compare the prices with what NOS charger quarters were selling for, but I think we all agree that they were way over priced at $2000-3500 per side anyway.The average Joe restoring his rusty pile like me wouldn't have paid that anyway.

I still feel for $1800 a set they should be straiter than what they are.

The door skin thats just a plain flaw having the line 2 inches too long.

How did your valance corners fit ?

[Dino]

I have to agree, if you're going to make quarters and skins then make them straight, I don't see why we have to accept that they're wavy.  Sure it's better than nothing but you guys are spending thousands on parts and you still have a boatload of work that should've been done. 

Why don't you guys fix the waves before fitting the panel?  With some gentle hammer and dolly work  followed by some longblock sanding you can get those things straight so you can skip the bondo.

[charger_fan_4ever]

Personally I wouldn't want to hammer and dolly in any area thats visible via the trunk because you'd see hammer marks if you didn't finish the backside. That being said they need it front to back lol. In the box they looked not bad. Once at eye level on the car different story.

[Dino]

Personally I wouldn't want to hammer and dolly in any area thats visible via the trunk because you'd see hammer marks if you didn't finish the backside. That being said they need it front to back lol. In the box they looked not bad. Once at eye level on the car different story.

In case of waves the hammer work is really gentle, it's nothing like hammering out dents.  You would have to do some work on the inside but with the quarter on a bench that's easy enough to do.

Most will just cover it in undercoating though.   

[65post]

Here were my quarters- 





I'm not saying AMD products are perfect, but for me based on what I have seen before, very happy.

The quarters could easily get damaged in shipping also.  These things are HUGE.

Looking at these 68 1/4s the 70s have the same waves - low spots in the same areas....

[Ryan]

Man sorry to see that. Makes me glad I waited till I found a good set.