True X9 black 69 daytona how many known

[nascarxx29]

I got the idea from this on going post .And didnt see that many in my going arounds.Some are X9 black now but not originally .Making X9 black daytonas highly sought after.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2355043&an=0&page=0#2355043

[3--Daytona]

    nascarxx29;;; I dont know how many" factory" black cars were built total. I was told several years ago by someone that could know that there were ,nine total.
         BUT,,,,,,,,,,I do know there was at least--ONE--  because I own it.   NOT FOR SALE
           
     XX29  L9B  414652    X9   X9               Black exterior,,,Red interior   Red Wing   440---4-speed.
       
I have fender tag to prove it,,tag stays in bank lock box.            3--daytona

[nascarxx29]

Yes 9 in the number Ive seen around for a long time

[69_500]

9 is the number I have always heard as well.

I know of 2 that are HEMI 4 speeds, that are black cars from the factory.
Then I have seen 2 440 cars that are factory black.
Then Jim has the other one that I've heard of but haven't had the chance to enjoy in person yet. Probably this summer though, if I don't see him at a show with it, I'll stop by for a visit to check it out.

[hemigeno]

I know of another one that is probably completely or very nearly restored by now.  They were just starting the resto this time last year.

440/727, X9 exterior & interior, Red stripe.  405187, owned by Tom A.

The pic below was taken 1/12/05, when I was visiting a friend's resto shop in Wisconsin:

[69_500]

Car looks great with the rocker moldings on it. Were they there origionally or do you know Gene?

Doesn't look like the car needed a lot, just a little freshening up to be very presentable. Of course most owners want their cars to be in top show quality, where as I'd just want one to drive and enjoy. So i'd take a low #2 car anyday.

[hemigeno]

Danny, I should have mentioned that the tag does not have M25 on it.  Does look good with them though, doesn't it??

The car didn't look bad, probably a 2- driver car.  The owner (Tom A.) wanted a show-stoping, drop-dead gorgeous paint job, underneath and everything.  The guy doing the resto has done black cars before, and a '69 Poncho convertible he did looked great - even 8 years after he did it...  They definitely weren't worried about paint daubs and grease pencil markings, etc.  It will be a gorgeous car when it's done.

[69_500]

Ah schucks so are they going to keep the rocker moldings on the car after the restoration or not? They looks sweet on there.

So are they "over restoring" the car then? Doing it to better than factory specs, but using the correct parts? Just not doing the runs in the paint, and such.

Even if they don't intend to do the pencil markings and paint daubs, I hope that they photographed where they were so if in the future they decide to go that route they have a way to show that is how it was on that particular car.

[nascarxx29]

I did find a stack of documentation for a 440 X9 car from shipping memorandum to window sticker and copy of the buildsheet.That was sent to me from a friend wanting to buy this car alongtime back .When the car was in Alabama to photograph and inspect XX29L9B [[[[[[405187]]]]]].Its was paid for by Virginia national bank.Sold to P D Welch & Company Selma Rd Orange VA .And optioned as {A36 performance axle package [B51 power brakes] [C21 center front seat with armrest] [D34Torque flite trans [D56 3.55 axle ratio] [E86 440] [R11 am radio]  [S77 PS] [V88 stripe delete [W21 road wheels] [Y39 special order] [T82 whitewalls]  409 destination charge

Quote earlier by Hemi Geno I know of another one that is probably completely or very nearly restored by now.  They were just starting the resto this time last year.

440/727, X9 exterior & interior, Red stripe.  [[[[405187]]]]]], owned by Tom A.

The pic below was taken 1/12/05, when I was visiting a friend's resto shop in Wisconsin:End of quote

Hemi Geno you remember a F6 daytona from Mo.That sat outside since the 70-s.The same guy who sent me the X9 info .Looked at and sent me vin and pictures of a severly rusted AC retro fitted daytona from St Louis MO 39885*

[73rallye440magnum]

hemigeno where is that in WI?

[hemigeno]

hemigeno where is that in WI?

If I told you, I'd have to kill ya...   

It's in SE Wisconsin, out in the boonies.

Dave, that's cool you have some paperwork on Tom's car.  I'll be seeing the guy that did the restoration sometime this spring, and I'll ask him if the paperwork you have went with the car when it was purchased by Tom .  Did your friend buy the car then, or did he take a pass?  I honestly don't know when Tom bought it - never asked that question.   

[nascarxx29]

Hemi Geno I know he was one of few trying for that car when it was for sale in Alabama .But missed out on it .It is a known club car that goes back to the 1979 list.Then owned by John Garnett of Fredericksburg VA

[hemigeno]

Hemi Geno you remember a F6 daytona from Mo.That sat outside since the 70-s.The same guy who sent me the X9 info .Looked at and sent me vin and pictures of a severly rusted AC retro fitted daytona from St Louis MO 39885*

No, I don't recall seeing that one around anywhere.  It wasn't sold new in MO, and was not in my immediate vicinity, that's for sure.  Which part of the state was it in?  Also, do you know what became of it?

Must have been a thing with Missouri Daytona's and retrofitting A/C - that makes the second one, and there were what - about 6 or 8 known to have had that done to them?

I had seen Tom's car on the list, and noticed that they did not have the colors listed at the time either.

[nascarxx29]

It came from Kardon dodge L398853 in Mt Holly NJ .And it was for sale in St Louis MO .The story was original owner was in jail .And car sat many years outside.There should be pictures on cars in barn .Or on this link
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=585449&an=0&page=0#585449

[3--Daytona]

nascarxx29;;;;;; Do you have any info on what dealership car XX29L9B356520 went thru? I was told years ago that it was a preview car for Chrysler Corp,,, and made it's debut at American Exhibt Hall, in KC,Mo,,,,,,,,,,,,,I have no proof!                  3--daytona

[PocketThunder]

I know of another one that is probably completely or very nearly restored by now.  They were just starting the resto this time last year.

440/727, X9 exterior & interior, Red stripe.  405187, owned by Tom A.

The pic below was taken 1/12/05, when I was visiting a friend's resto shop in Wisconsin:

Do they have the rest of the 67 GTO which that primered hood goes to?

[nascarxx29]

Hey 3 daytona I will see what I can find on your sister car to Paul K daytona

[nascarxx29]

Heres the info and your proof. Jim your car is #113 on the 69 daytona shipment list.It has a build date of 4-27  thats April 27 th .The cars job number is 926018 .It shows a dealer # of 52-92852 .But it shows its destination.At American Exhibit Hall Kanas City Mo car was shipped 8-24-69.This document and listingings was provided by WW club newsletters .If you need a copy for your documents.I can check your other 2 cars if you want. I will pm you the results.If you dont want them posted for any reason

[hemigeno]

nascarxx29;;;;;; Do you have any info on what dealership car XX29L9B356520 went thru? I was told years ago that it was a preview car for Chrysler Corp,,, and made it's debut at American Exhibt Hall, in KC,Mo,,,,,,,,,,,,,I have no proof!                  3--daytona

There are things we can see in some Dealer Numbers that indicate what the car was initially used for.  All of the cars that went to a Car Show, Regional Offices, Executive Garage, etc. (for some Chrysler Corporate use) had a dealer number that began with 9, in this instance the number is 92852.  That's probably either a dummy number, or it is keyed to the event that the car is being sent to.  Either way, I do not think it represents an actual dealership.

The current Dealer Invoice series in the WW newsletters lists most of the cars used in "Sales Shows"  twice.  They are listed once with a regular Dealer's name, and again with a 9xxxx dealer number (which I think is more-or-less a dummy number).  Before the car Jim asked about was "reassigned" to go to the American Exhibition Hall in KC, it was assigned to May Avenue Dodge in OKC.  With that in mind, I wonder if 356520 went there after the Car/Sales Show in KC was done?

[hemigeno]

Do they have the rest of the 67 GTO which that primered hood goes to?

Yes, it was directly to the left of the Daytona.  It was a nice Tri-Power convertible that the owner couldn't make up his mind what particular shade of blue he liked.  I was at Mike's shop in October of '04, and the car hadn't been touched between October and January '05 for that reason.

Good eyes...

[nascarxx29]

That would make 3 daytonas .I know of that came out of May Ave Dodge

[hemigeno]

And not only that, but the state totals would be affected.  Missouri would be down 1, and OK up one.

[69_500]

So was there a rash of Black Daytona's built on that day or what?

Were they like some other cars and built in batches of like colors? Anyone ever done a research like that? I've noticed some of the 500's seem to be like that. Where 3-4 in a row were either all HEMI's or all of the same color exterior wise. But no set pattern or anything like that.

[3--Daytona]

hemigeno-----nascarxx29---69-500--Hey guys thanks for all the info,,,,All I knew for certain was when I found 356520, it had been wrecked, totaled out,, patched up with tons of bondo, painted blue, repossessd,,with a Al, title.  I found the "barn" it was patched up in, but could not get any info,and was very forcefully asked to leave. When I am looking at 3 dogs, a man with a cigar in his mouth, a bulge in his back pocket, I do as I'm told!!  I tried to get somthing from Dept of Rev, from  Mo, as well as AL,, No,record.       Thanks  again.               3--daytona

[nascarxx29]

In some cases Ive seen similar cars with close vins .As 3 daytonas and Paul K.Built like twins down to the color.If they did build a batch together on the line with number in order vins? .But if I car had a dent and pulled out of the numbered place in line.That theory wouldnt follow. Also 3 daytona I remember you car being Wingo Star or story was called Winged wonder in musclecar review in Oct 89 or so.And that you and your family restored that daytona yourself .Nice Work