Some people are a joke....

[69bronzeT5]

It's amazing some of the people out there in the car world.

I took my Magnum to a big Mopar show in Everett, WA on June 3rd and managed to win 1st in the stock Magnum class. I got 1st against 3 other Magnums......my stock R/T VS a SRT8 and 2 other R/Ts. One of the R/Ts had a silver & blue two tone paint job and some of the engine bay stuff was painted and done up. The other was black and had custom black 22" rims, aftermarket headlights, tailights and exhaust and also had engine bay stuff painted. The SRT8 was the second thing closest to stock but he had shaved off his rear wiper and put aftermarket taillights and exhaust on. I was really surprised to win 1st against the SRT8 (I'm friends with the owner- it's a gorgeous car). Really though, my R/T was the only TRUE stock Magnum there. Apparentley the lady who owned the black 22" rim R/T was not happy about that. She decided to go onto the LX forums and bad mouth me and try to deface my character by telling people I cheated and stole the other entrant's ballots and voted for myself with them. I didn't see the thread she made until tonight.

Check out my reply down the page.....I think it'll shut her up pretty well. I just can't believe the ignorance and stupidity of some people in this world.


http://www.lxforums.com/board/f103/question-310400/#post4113051

[doctor4766]

There's one in every crowd Cody.
Good for you for sticking up for yourself, but don't let it turn into a slanging match.
You need to remain better than that.

[NHCharger]

Yup, ya gotta love the trophy whores. I especially like the guys or gals that have every single trophy they've ever won neatly arranged in the back seat of their car. I always make sure NOT to vote for them.
Glad you stuck up for yourself.

[TruckDriver]

I hate sore loosers

[404NOTFOUND]

Congrats on the win and your excellent response on the forum. While we all make typos in our posts, hers are so extensive,  I think it says something about her apparent lack of intelligence.

[RIDELIKEHELL]

She is a Joke! Good for you Cody 

[Cooter]

Gotta watch those trophy hunters. They come out when you least expect it. This is how I do it.


Had one try this in person at a show, next time, I was prepared. Went to the local trophy shop and bought a couple of those little $5.00 Tophies. When One went off about how it is rigged and what not, I tried to hand him one saying sorry guy.

Shoulda seen the croud after that.

I keep a few in the trunk for this very reason now.

[bill440rt]

Just read your reply, Cody. Good for you for sticking up for yourself. 

Yes, there's one at every show. I look at it as it's a day away from home, chores, etc, to hang out with my sons, my friends, & meet people.
I remember this one night, overhearing some crotchety old bastards from different car clubs arguing at a cruise night over how many more trophies each club member won over the other at a car show the previous day.
I was like, REALLY??      This is what you argue over?? A $5 dust collector from a small town local car show?

Let it go, take the high road. Enjoy your car. Keep it clean. Move on. 

[74bluecharger440]

Well said .So what  I am wondering is ,Will she suck it up and leave it there  or is she going to respond to your last post?

[resq302]

As happy and surprised I usually am IF I win something at a show, the biggest trophy always goes home with me at the end of the show...... my CAR!

Very admirable on how you stuck up for yourself.  That lady has no proof that you even did anything regarding the votes.  Maybe the show admin tossed her ballots out because she was not "stock" either.  I have been to some shows where an executive decision was made and cars got moved around in categories due to not being stock or thinking they were modified and really fell into the stock class.

Lets face it, you can't please everyone all of the time.

[Old Moparz]

That person is just another a-hole so don't let it get to you. Be patient & you'll have the honor of meeting a lot more of them who are a lot worse.

I see all the sore losers at the local cruises bolting from the parking lot as soon as they're done handing out the trophies. Is a trophy the main reason to show up in the first place? Not for me or my friends. We're usually the absolute last ones to leave. The cruises end around 9 or 10 & we've been in the parking lot talking about nothing until after midnight. It's more fun hanging out with a few people that you don't see as often as you'd like than worrying over a trophy.

The only two car trophies I have that I am proud of, are the one my Scamp won at the Englishtown drag strip for 1st in it's class, & one that my primered Satellite convertible won in West Virginia for the longest distance traveled to the show. I was proud I made the entire trip without getting stranded. 

[Ghoste]

Thats part of why I rarely do car shows Cody.  If those people need the trophy that badly they should just go buy one and put whatever prize they want on it and no one will ever know.  Hmm, now that I think of it, I wonder how often those kind of a-holes actually do that?

[PocketThunder]

Sounds like they need voter ID laws at car shows.   

[Ghoste]

Florida too?



(sorry Floridians, I love you all and your state but it was too easy a shot not to take it)

[Old Moparz]

Florida too?



(sorry Floridians, I love you all and your state but it was too easy a shot not to take it)

Don't apologize, they never apologize for all that humidity. 

[wingcar]

Just a bad loser.............glad you won your class, but even more glad that you took the high ground and didn't start to throw mud like she did.  Sadly, no matter how a show is judged, SOMEONE will go away unhappy...it's just the nature of the beast.  If it takes a trophy to make a car show enjoyable for you then you are missing the whole point of attending (and apparently she does), it's about "sharing" the car experence with others that have the some interest and making new friends as well as getting new ideas for your ride.........I doubt if this lady has ever really enjoyed a car show if all she cares about is a cheap piece of wood and metal...........very sad.

[Troy]

Honestly, when I register for a show I specifically tell them "don't judge my car". Sometimes I have to argue with them! I'm only there to look around and it's unlikely I'll stay through the awards any way. I have no use for a trophy so let someone who wants it have it. I'd hate for one of my dirty, worn out piles to beat someone who actually put effort into showing their car (although it's happened twice now, whoops!).

True story: I was at a local show once and they awarded "Best of Show" and "Top 50" trophies. There were only 49 registered cars. Now, this show has mostly street rodders who believe in driving their cars (which is one reason I love going to the show). A guy showed up with his Boss 302 - with a matching F250 and enclosed trailer - with 4900 original miles. When they called his name for a "Top 50" trophy he actually got booed. Seriously? I could have entered my bicycle and won the same prize because EVERYBODY GOT ONE! Classy...

I was at another show one time where a guy was explaining how he had gone to a show early in the day because it was very small and he was practically guaranteed to win a trophy. He left right after registering to go to the big show that he really wanted to be in - but wasn't as likely to win.

Troy

[duanesterrr]

Nice response.  Some people just have no life.

[moparstuart]

  i goto have fun , I would just prefer to get a little dash plaque to mark and remember where I have been.  
trophy hounds are a crack up , I could car less for those dust collectors  .  

[resq302]

Hey, my trophy (my charger) gathers dust too from lack of use!  doesn't mean that I don't want it.   

[nvrbdn]

car shows can be fun the way you look at them. fun to show and meet people. and if you win, thats cool. i like your attitude. i won a trophy once and a little girl whose parents were showing against me was upset. (she really wanted a trophy). so after the awards the wife took a pic of me with the trophy, then i walked over and gave it to her telling her that i think they thought we were a team and gave me the trophy for our team. she was happy and said yes we are a team and we can share the trophy. ive never seen the trophy again, but i have a nice pic. 

[Dino]

Good for you Cody!   

I can't do shows any more, the people just tick me off too much.  If I go to a show it's as a spectator and I'd rather leave my own car in the parking lot but I know other spectators would like to see the Charger and I understand that.  I just can't take the nitpickers anynore that bash evry little thing that wasn't stock on the car.  Get an effin' life!

There's a cruise in a few weeks right where I live.  You can register your car and park in one of 10 (I think) spots to show it.  I thought about it for a minute and decided not to do that because again someone would probably piss me off.   

I plan on cruising the strip a few times and then I'll get bored and leave.

Maybe because it's my line of work but my patience with some people is really short these days.

[nvrbdn]

the car cruises are whats cool to me. no trophys just dash plaques. not time zones. come when you want check out the cars and leave when you want. thats what i like to do. drive in, check it out, then hit the road.

[404NOTFOUND]

I don't know how much dust is on my trophies because I can't remember what room they are in. As for dash plaques, who really sticks those on their dash? I don't need anymore junk to fill up my house. I recently won an HID kit for having the highest horsepower at a dyno day. I didn't even bother to claim the prize. I've been to shows where I have won gift certificates for nice restaurants. Now that's more like it.

[myk]

I'm actually looking forward to her response; rather, if she can come up with one.  

Chalk that up to another problem with people in general: if you lose, the other side MUST have cheated somehow.  There's NO WAY that someone could actually, genuinely beat someone else.

Finally, with all due respect to the people who cherish these sorts of cars, why does someone who owns a cookie cutter car with 56" rims think they deserve to win anything?  What were the terms of the contest?

[TK73]

car shows can be fun the way you look at them. fun to show and meet people. and if you win, thats cool. i like your attitude. i won a trophy once and a little girl whose parents were showing against me was upset. (she really wanted a trophy). so after the awards the wife took a pic of me with the trophy, then i walked over and gave it to her telling her that i think they thought we were a team and gave me the trophy for our team. she was happy and said yes we are a team and we can share the trophy. ive never seen the trophy again, but i have a nice pic. 

That is so cool !!   

[TK73]

What a lyin bitch

We all know you didn't steal the votes...


I did   

[nh_mopar_fan]

There's a stock Magnum class?

[Ghoste]

Well they are now out of production after all.   

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

PS-----WTF is a "Redigstry" 



1BADMAG
HEMI Redgistry #1677

[A383Wing]

Honestly, when I register for a show I specifically tell them "don't judge my car". Sometimes I have to argue with them! I'm only there to look around and it's unlikely I'll stay through the awards any way. I have no use for a trophy so let someone who wants it have it.

exactly what we have been doing the last few years as well....I pay my entry fee, park the car...and when someone wants to know what number it is for voting, I just tell them it's not being judged...so please vote for another car.

We don't go for the trophies, just the friends and people we have not seen in a while

Bryan

[69CoronetRT]

Honestly, when I register for a show I specifically tell them "don't judge my car". Sometimes I have to argue with them! I'm only there to look around and it's unlikely I'll stay through the awards any way. I have no use for a trophy so let someone who wants it have it.

I do and feel the same way. I always put 'display only' on the window card and never leave the judging sheets where they are supposed to be. Sometimes the show promoters get perplexed or peeved but I don't care. I look at it this way, I like supporting the shows and the entry fee is worth it for a good parking spot.

I gave all my old trophies to the Boys Scouts for their Pinewood Derby races.

[68 Bullitt Charger]

"Kick her ass Seabass".............

[Fred]

What an idiot!
To be honest, if I take the car to a show I never stay to the end. I go there soley to look at all the cars and give people a chance to look at mine...............then I'm off.
I don't need an award to make me appreciate what I have.

[resq302]

Its funny that this topic is about this subject as I was at a first time car show tonight for a NAPA auto parts store.  Turns out, best in show award was two tickets to the upcoming Pocono Speedway NASCAR race, 2 tickets, front row, and the prize was kept secret until the winner was announced.  I had no clue who the winner was but they said the car had 12 votes for it.  I think if there were 30 cars at the show it was a lot.  No other awards other than the best in show which was fine by me.  But after they called out the car number and not what kind of car it was, I went around looking to see what kind of car had one.  This teal colored 1968 Firebird 455 car with tacky pin striping that was pink and blue won.  The chrome was ok but the interior was ugh, blah!  And the rust that was bubbling up under the vinyl cover?!?!?!?!  Well, the race would have been nice to see as I have never done that before but at least I got to spend some great time with my 5 yr old daughter at the show and got to meet some great new people who I will probably see again next week at another show in my town.  I think the highlight of the evening was my daughter saying.... "Daddy, your car goes fast"  (I think I was doing maybe 40) and "you're charger is so cool" (yet she voted for another car at the show, which I was totally ok with)

[hatersaurusrex]

True story: I was at a local show once and they awarded "Best of Show" and "Top 50" trophies. There were only 49 registered cars.

Troy

Heheh well this is the way car shows will all go in the future.  Kids are raised to receive little league trophies whether they win or lose, and car shows will have to give these punks trophies for 'just showing up' too.    Granted, that means that in 20 years a 'Classic 92 Saturn' will get a trophy just like the next guy's 'Awesome 2002 Corolla' but trust me, it will happen.

PS. Crybabies suck.

[Bob T]

Gotta watch those trophy hunters. They come out when you least expect it. This is how I do it.


Had one try this in person at a show, next time, I was prepared. Went to the local trophy shop and bought a couple of those little $5.00 Tophies. When One went off about how it is rigged and what not, I tried to hand him one saying sorry guy.

Shoulda seen the croud after that.

I keep a few in the trunk for this very reason now.

  Just spilt my beer on the keyboard , nice one Cooter 

[RallyeMike]

If I was running a show, I'd have trophy tucked in away in a box for "1st Place - Whiner", and I'd preset it upon such occasions. Collectively, we just need to embarrass these kooks enough so that they will go somewhere else.

Good job Cody. Your response was measured and stuck to the high road.

[bull]

People suck. Actually, I bet someone did steal the ballots for her car just to mess with her. She sounds like a fun button-pushing target for someone who's gotten tired of her BS and wants to see her embarrass herself.

[69bronzeT5]

Finally, with all due respect to the people who cherish these sorts of cars, why does someone who owns a cookie cutter car with 56" rims think they deserve to win anything?  What were the terms of the contest?

There's a stock Magnum class?

Yes. You'll find at most Mopar shows nowadays, there are classes for the LX cars. This particular show had classes for stock and modified Magnums, Chargers, Challengers & 300s....all split up into their appropriate model classes. Some people love them (like me) just as much as we love our classic Mopars. I went drag racing with my Magnum last night and my best was a 14.43 @ 96.79mph. Not bad for a stock 5.7L Hemi.

[ACUDANUT]

I think they should give CASH.  Keep the worthless trophy's.

[mauve66]

there would be even more fights

[A383Wing]

  Just spilt my beer on the keyboard , nice one Cooter 

that was a waste of good beer

Bryan

[Fred]

I think they should give CASH.  Keep the worthless trophy's.

I did competition pistol shooting for over 15 years and collected so many trophies. Guess what.........I've thrown them all out. They were nothing but dust collectors.
As you say, a bit of cash always comes in handy. Mostly we throw that away too but we do get something in return.

[A383Wing]

you should have saved them Fred, and used them for target practice

Bryan

[Fred]

You are one funny guy Bryan. 

[Cooter]

I think I got it figured out about the whole trophy thing...See, IMO, it's the same as on test and tune day at the local track as to winning a trophy.
When your car runs the time, people know it. People kinda treat you AND your ride a little differently after that for some reason. I remember when my Dart was not really known as far as a timeslip goes. So, Everybody and their brother on the local "Street scene" at the time knew I was all about some N..O...S...


I knew there was only one way to tune the car. Take it AWAY, FAR AWAY from the local tracks. WHY you ask? Well, let's see...
First pass of the trailer at Peidmont, the car turned 8.40's 8th mile. This is with a brand new at the time, 505 C.I. stroker, back in 1997...First around these parts, built with someone else's blown up 505 engine parts. Tears were welling up in my eyes as I just knew after all the talk around "the scene" about how "that little dart has just gotta fly", I couldn't tune it locally because everybody knows you screw on a Nitrous kit on anything and go from running 8.40's to high 6's....

Nevermind the fact that my best pal told me when I was going off about sh*tty timeslips, to "Go get a balogna burger and calm down"...I came back he had the fuel bowls off and a jet kit out. Told me he didn't know how it ran as good as it did with my "Sh*t tune up" in it.

Bottom line? "We" (he) tuned it to low 7's on the motor and a single pass at 6.88 Through the mufflers on N20. After that, the track official decided i didn't have enough safety equipment and told me not to come back until I did. I haven't been back either. It STILL doesn't have half that stuff.

Car guys can say that they don't NEED or go looking for trophies, but it kinda tells the rest that you/your car is kinda "Above" theirs if you actually DO win one.
Like it or not, it's a competition thing and when there's competition, there will be more competitive people involved.

I like to use my brother and I at the local "test and tune" as prime example of this.
He stated he runs his busted, broken down, 1967 Dart with it's shoulda been rebuilt 20 years ago, 318, four speed, and welded up 8 1/4" rear for what he referred to as "Fun only".....And I should run mine for once.

I decided to put him and his "fun only" to the test one night. He decides he's gonna pair off against my Dart. I can still hear the announcer squawking "Well here's one we don't see too often folks! Two Brothers in two Darts!!"
Long story short, the first two passes out the three we made that night I let him "go" on ahead and reeled him in like a catfish on the big end.

Third pass? He decides he's gonna leave on the second yellow and thought I couldn't catch him. I did. When I got the timeslip I saw the redlight and asked WTF?
His reply: "You weren't gonna get me out the hole and train length me that time!"

I replied: "But, but, it's all for "Fun" right?"....

In order for there to be a "First place", or "Best in show" there has to be losers. That's ok once in a while, but what I found at these local gigs is that the same damn, Ebay bought, high dollar, cars win every single time and that gets old QUICK....

For once, I'd like to see a show where the voting folks actually asked "Did YOU restore this car?" , "How much time and labor went into this?"
Instead of giving a trophy showing the poor bastid that put 5 years into a restoration that his car "Wasn't up to par" with that "high dollar, Ebay, Just bought it,  Armor all'd the tires and filled it up with fuel" car.


Lose once, and most can take it like a man...Lose constantly, and most will get tired of trying...
Maybe this chick and blinged out Magnum lost a BUNCH of shows and she thought she mighta had this one in the bag. Then Cody shows up and steals her thunder again? Not defending her here, just offering a maybe as to why she reacted like a spoiled kid.  

[Troy]

I'd agree if all shows and all judging were the same. However, it's easy to go to a small show with a few cars and take a Best of Show trophy or at least first in your class. Do you feel good about it? I wouldn't. I know guys who buy obscure cars and go to shows that have a class they fit in - but aren't likely to have enough cars for - just so they can win. I entered a show a couple years ago with the Mach 1 and Charger R/T. There was a "Mopar" class and a "Mustang" class but only three Mustangs showed up. I was guaranteed to win a trophy by default but I didn't have my car judged.  My friend's daughters race SCCA and most of the time they are the only women in their classes (they aren't always in the same one). They compare their times (like drag racing) because winning first place in every race doesn't mean much. Who wants to win when there's no competition? At least some people do. I believe these are the same people who make excuses for not winning when there is competition. Again, judging can be biased. At least one local show gives about 60% of their awards to club members (who also happen to be the judges). Carlisle has "participant judging" so fewer politics - but it is easier to stack the ballot box if you belong to a large club or know a lot of people.

True story: I was at a local show once and they awarded "Best of Show" and "Top 50" trophies. There were only 49 registered cars.

Troy

Heheh well this is the way car shows will all go in the future.  Kids are raised to receive little league trophies whether they win or lose, and car shows will have to give these punks trophies for 'just showing up' too.    Granted, that means that in 20 years a 'Classic 92 Saturn' will get a trophy just like the next guy's 'Awesome 2002 Corolla' but trust me, it will happen.

PS. Crybabies suck.

They do this to get more cars to show up. In this case it backfired. If you say you're only giving out three trophies then anyone with a borderline car won't bother to bring it.

Troy

[Chris G.]

Great reply Cody. 

Do they really call them "Maggies"? WTF 

[ACUDANUT]

I have been to close to a hundred cars shows.  Most of the time everyone gets a trophy, so it's a "who cares" kind of thing to me.

[RECHRGD]

I took my Grandson to a small local show yesterday just for the experience.  I don't need any more $10.00 plastic trophies littering up my shop, but the Grandson was really into it and wanted me to win.  It was a judged shoe, so I thought there would be a good chance of me winning in the '62 to '72 muscle car class.  There were classes for street rods, pickups and all the rest.  The judges put you in whatever class that they deemed appropriate.  When they were giving out the trophies for the '62 to '72 muscle cars, I was awarded 2nd place and was happy to get it.  Then the gal said that we may be a little "miffed" by this and proceeded to award 1st place to '78 El Camino!  WTF?  I didn't really have a good explanation for my Grandson and didn't really care that much.  Then the ten year old boy walked up to the judges stand and proceeded to reem them a new asshole.  "That car is a pickup! Not a muscle car, and on top of that, it's a 1978!!!  You people are crazy!!!!!!"  I couldn't contain my laughter and took him back to the car and drove home...

[aussiemuscle]

Gotta watch those trophy hunters. They come out when you least expect it. This is how I do it.


Had one try this in person at a show, next time, I was prepared. Went to the local trophy shop and bought a couple of those little $5.00 Tophies. When One went off about how it is rigged and what not, I tried to hand him one saying sorry guy.

Shoulda seen the croud after that.

I keep a few in the trunk for this very reason now.

do you get them engraved? Worlds best complainer? Sore looser award?

[nvrbdn]

RECHRGD, your grandkid knows classes better than the judges. 

[HPP]

Without the background of your first post in this thread, I'd would have no idea what was going on based on the info in the LX thread.

[model maker]

she just must be upset because she didn't win i hope she was able to have some fun there at least.
Bert

[ChgrSteve67]

I took my Grandson to a small local show yesterday just for the experience.  I don't need any more $10.00 plastic trophies littering up my shop, but the Grandson was really into it and wanted me to win.  It was a judged shoe, so I thought there would be a good chance of me winning in the '62 to '72 muscle car class.  There were classes for street rods, pickups and all the rest.  The judges put you in whatever class that they deemed appropriate.  When they were giving out the trophies for the '62 to '72 muscle cars, I was awarded 2nd place and was happy to get it.  Then the gal said that we may be a little "miffed" by this and proceeded to award 1st place to '78 El Camino!  WTF?  I didn't really have a good explanation for my Grandson and didn't really care that much.  Then the ten year old boy walked up to the judges stand and proceeded to reem them a new asshole.  "That car is a pickup! Not a muscle car, and on top of that, it's a 1978!!!  You people are crazy!!!!!!"  I couldn't contain my laughter and took him back to the car and drove home...

So was it your grandson that went up and reamed them a new one?

Was there a catagory post 72 that the El Camino should have been in?
I'm guessing not and the judges figured that was the closest catagory to put it in.

The car shows that are just pre 73-74 exclude some nice mid to late 70s cars and the promoters really need to start figuring out a way to include them.

[Dino]

The car shows that are just pre 73-74 exclude some nice mid to last 70s cars and the promoters really need to start figuring out a way to include them.

I agree but as long as there was no category to place that '78 in, it should not have been judged in the first place.  It's not right to lose to a car that's not in your class.  The organizers messed up.  I wonder how the El Camino owner felt.  I wouldn't feel good knowing I received a trophy that should've been someone else's.

[RECHRGD]

Yes, it was my grandson..  Feisty little fart.  As for the catagories, there was a pickup class and that is where I usually see El Caminos put.  But, there was also a "street" class that had no year cut-off.  I think the guy was a member of the club putting on the show, so probably just the typical small town show "buddy" stuff....

[Dino]

Yes, it was my grandson..  Feisty little fart.  As for the catagories, there was a pickup class and that is where I usually see El Caminos put.  But, there was also a "street" class that had no year cut-off.  I think the guy was a member of the club putting on the show, so probably just the typical small town show "buddy" stuff....

Tsss what a shame that you have to cheat at a friggin' car show!  Pitiful....

High five your grandson for me, I like him.

[472 R/T SE]

I'll say it until I'm blue in the face. 

Any respectable car club will have it's member's cars' all in a class, (a host class is what we call it).

[mauve66]

back in the midwest the host club wouldn't even have their cars judged, they would be in a section all of their own with signs stating that fact

[ChgrSteve67]

I have been in shows where the clubs cars were judged with everyone elses however the judges were not members of the club and didn't know the members or their cars. Supposedly.

[69bronzeT5]

I have been in shows where the clubs cars were judged with everyone elses however the judges were not members of the club and didn't know the members or their cars. Supposedly.

This show I was at, it was judged by the participants. Every car had an envelope on the windshield and at registration they gave you a sheet of paper with number tags on it. So if you liked say the black '71 Challenger R/T in class 23, you would rip off the 23 tag and put it in the envelope of that Challenger.

[Kern Dog]

I'm a member of the Capital City Mopars car club in Sacramento. At our annual show, the judging is performed by club members. We are not professionals, just car enthusiasts. Our clubs members are a bit more knowledgeable than average.  Our club members cars are in the show for display only and are not included in the judging for trophies. As judges, we look for general cleanliness and quality of workmanship. Each judge has their own tastes and preferences. Personally, I try to remove my opinions of colors or body styles that I don't like. I do not like the 63-66 A bodies, but if I see one that is nicely done, I grade it above a worn out 340 Duster. A judge with integrity will do the same. I have awarded trophies to MANY cars that I would never want to own. The judges need to be impartial.
Participant judging? I see it as a lazy move by the hosting club. There are more amateurs with show cars than car club members. You can't judge a car because it is "Pretty". Judges need to look closer at each car. I have seen a few..."Vote for mine, I'll vote for yours" at shows with participant judging. A Charger owner may not know or care about the Imperials, Furys, Aspens or trucks at the show and just mark a winner without even looking at the cars.
Another option is to have a professional group judge the cars. This is very expensive but is the best shot at fair and impartial judging.

[Ponch ®]

Finally, with all due respect to the people who cherish these sorts of cars, why does someone who owns a cookie cutter car with 56" rims think they deserve to win anything?  What were the terms of the contest?

There's a stock Magnum class?

Yes. You'll find at most Mopar shows nowadays, there are classes for the LX cars. This particular show had classes for stock and modified Magnums, Chargers, Challengers & 300s....all split up into their appropriate model classes. Some people love them (like me) just as much as we love our classic Mopars. I went drag racing with my Magnum last night and my best was a 14.43 @ 96.79mph. Not bad for a stock 5.7L Hemi.

myk -

I've mentioned this before in the 4 Door Charger Hate threads, but just because these cars are new(ish) doesn't mean that they're "cookie cutter". Some of those guys put a ton of work into their cars, both cosmetic and performance wise. It's true that some guys just throw on big wheels and a sound system and act like theyre driving a Duesenberg BUT the guys that are serious about it know what theyre doing. Of course, there's always the "more money than taste" crowd.

That being said, I've judged both the LX and new Challenger classes at my car club's Spring Fling show. I think having a "stock" category for new cars is pointless. When I first got involved in judging, we still had separate categories for "stock" and "modified" LX's and Challengers. However, we got rid of the "stock" class in both the LX and Challenger classes.

No knock on you Cody, but my personal view of that is that there's really not much merit to having a bone stock car that you just drove off the lot (and I've seen those at shows, with dealer plates and temp registrations still on them). At least not in a show setting. It's not like it's a stock survivor 71 Demon or something. Maybe in 15-20 years having a stock 2010 Chrysler 300C may mean something, but right now it simply doesn't. How do you even judge that? "Oh...this one only has 300 miles, that one has 307" .That's why when I'm judging, I look at all cars, but I can pretty much tell you that unless you've invested time and effort into modifying your car (paint, interior, wheels, engine, suspension) etc, you're more than likely not going to be in the running.  

[Steve P.]

Good job Cody. Those of us who have actually seen you at a car show know exactly how crazy you are about seeing, learning and taking pictures of everything.. You did good standing up for yourself and not pushing it too much at the same time. Don't let her shit bother you. Even if someone does read her crap and meets you in or at a show, they will quickly think, (THAT WOMAN IS NUTS)!!!! Just keep being you Cody. You are on the right track... 

[Ponch ®]

I can personally vouch for that "Blonde Kids" integrity (Even though he has Justin Bieber hair..... ).........

 

[TheGhost]

I can personally vouch for that "Blonde Kids" integrity (Even though he has Justin Bieber hair..... ).........

 

Somebody mail Cody some hair clippers!

Has the broad been back since everyone there ripped her a new one?

[69bronzeT5]

I can personally vouch for that "Blonde Kids" integrity (Even though he has Justin Bieber hair..... ).........

 

Somebody mail Cody some hair clippers!

Has the broad been back since everyone there ripped her a new one?

One of my close buddy's from the BCLX club Nope....she has been online but no reply.

[TUFCAT]

I read your thread Cody and you had a very good response.

I wonder how she can solely blame you when hundreds of people passed by the car?

From her comments I guess she has many haters out there....and somebody got this bitch where it hurts the most.