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And this is why you shouldn't let them sit

Started by Ghoste, June 08, 2012, 01:59:01 PM

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Ghoste

Nice day so I went home at lunch to grab the Charger and bring it in to work thinking I'd take a little drive at the end of the day.  Backed it out of the garage and shut it off to let the dog out for a minute.  Went to jump in the car and... nothing!  Complete electrical failure.  It's something simple and it won't take long to track down but I sure didn't have time to diagnose at lunch.  Which meant I had to PUSH the car back into the garage.  Did I mention my driveway slopes down from the house.
Arrgh, this is why they shouldn't sit too long.  It makes for ideal conditions in which electrical gremlins can grow.


There, rant off.

Old Moparz

Quote from: Ghoste on June 08, 2012, 01:59:01 PM

Arrgh, this is why they shouldn't sit too long. 

There, rant off.


It isn't just cars, I have the same problem with my body if I am sitting in one spot too long.
               Bob               



              Going Nowhere In A Hurry

nvrbdn

now thats funny.......................true, but funny. and for the ghoste mobile, that sucks. plan a nice cruise, and get a slap in the face. hope it is an easy fix. :2thumbs:
70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
50 Dodge Pilot House

hatersaurusrex

Quote from: Old Moparz on June 08, 2012, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on June 08, 2012, 01:59:01 PM

Arrgh, this is why they shouldn't sit too long. 

There, rant off.


It isn't just cars, I have the same problem with my body if I am sitting in one spot too long.

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RallyeMike

Guess # 1:  Battery terminal connection to cable. 20 second fix. No pushing required ?
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Old Moparz

Quote from: RallyeMike on June 08, 2012, 02:56:11 PM
Guess # 1:  Battery terminal connection to cable. 20 second fix. No pushing required ?


I'll be trying that later.
               Bob               



              Going Nowhere In A Hurry

Lennard

Quote from: Old Moparz on June 08, 2012, 03:06:51 PM
Quote from: RallyeMike on June 08, 2012, 02:56:11 PM
Guess # 1:  Battery terminal connection to cable. 20 second fix. No pushing required ?

I'll be trying that later.
:lol:

BrianShaughnessy

Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

Ghoste

The second fixes were all tried.  Somewhere between battery and dash though because as I said, it's complete failure.  Ran fine shortly before but checked battery quick anyway and its up.  Check bulkhead and fusible link, ckecked back of ammeter quick.  Will go over the the connections in a little more detail when I get home but I think it will be something simple.
This could even be one of those things where I try it in an hour and it works.  If that happens the car is getting a beating.

Cooter

Don't know bout you Ghoste, but I'd be looking at the starter relay for power in the "Start" position.
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Ghoste

Did that too.  There are no headlights or power coming through anywhere so it pretty much limits the number of locations to check.  Haven't had a chance to get out there yet, I keep getting calls from work with fires to put out but the crew will be done for the day soon and I'll get the hood up.

myk

Quote from: Ghoste on June 08, 2012, 07:38:01 PM
Did that too.  There are no headlights or power coming through anywhere so it pretty much limits the number of locations to check.  Haven't had a chance to get out there yet, I keep getting calls from work with fires to put out but the crew will be done for the day soon and I'll get the hood up.

I've got the same deal going on with my car, although I'm pretty sure it's the bulkhead connector.  When the car gets back from the body shop I'm driving it right over to another shop for a complete rewire-I'm tired of chasing electrical issues with wiring that all looks the same and crumbles if you look at it wrong.  How's your wiring?

Ghoste

Newer repro stuff from one end to the other.  It was all changed out around 8 or so years ago.

BigBlackDodge

Low blinker fluid or loose muffler bearing. Happens all the time.



BBD

myk

Quote from: Ghoste on June 08, 2012, 08:05:39 PM
Newer repro stuff from one end to the other.  It was all changed out around 8 or so years ago.

Well shoot man, you got me; that wiring should still be good...

Indygenerallee

Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

404NOTFOUND

Another vote for the bulkhead connector.
My 1969 Charger. RIP......Rest in pieces.

HANDM

Starter relay, same thing happened on my Challenger, tried everything you did, knowing it was all good and as a last resort changed the relay and it fired right up. 

Try jumping the relay terminals, that's how I figured it was that.

Strange thing is, is that I never had a relay go bad in that way ever.

Charger RT

Put my charger back together (not restored) in 2000 with OEM wiring except engine harness from year one and it has had zero issues until last summer. My son pulled it out of the garage like we do all the time to pull something else in to work on. When done we decided to go get gas in the charger at the gas station it wouldn't start. It started to crank then just stopped cranking. It acted like a bad connection. It would click lose everything then 10 seconds later the console lights would come back on. It turns out the battery was losing the connection inside the battery. 
Tim

myk

Quote from: 404NOTFOUND on June 08, 2012, 08:43:45 PM
Another vote for the bulkhead connector.

Goddamn bulkhead connectors.  I can't wait to have my Painless kit installed...

UH60L

Machines in general.  I work on helicopters for a living and if they don't fly for long periods of time, they develope hydraulic leaks, lose air pressure in the tires, and just generally have more problems than if they are flown more often.

Same thing happens to my lawn mower and my motorcycle too.  (my wife doesn't let me fly either one as often as I used to...   :icon_smile_big:    )

b5blue

  Try actually pulling on every crimped connection. (Like at the bulkhead connectors.) It's called a tug test, part of my USAF electronics installation training for making high reliability wiring harnesses.
  My new engine harness had the blue ignition wire just slide right out of the crimp, had I not caught this defective crimp sooner or later I'd had a vexing ignition issue. Connections can look fine and have continuity yet not be sound.  :scratchchin:
  When I worked at a small independent car lot it was important to the owner that no car go more than a week without being used for a day for errands. He had a service station for 25 years prior to starting his car lot and told us all if they sit, they fail.   
 

c00nhunterjoe

Sounds to me like you need a can of engine vaccum

69rtse4spd

Had a cell  in the battery go bad on time, pull the bat. & take somewhere & have it checked. Then clean the post & connectors good  :Twocents:. Had the blue wire in the balk head come lose & did the same thing you described when I went to get gas one day.

Dodge Don

The likelihood that your car will die is directly proportional to the incline of the driveway and the lack of available help to push 4,000 lbs uphill. It is a scientific fact.