Superbird WIW

[n9671x2]

Sorry, don't have more pictures, but looking for WIW opinions.  Numbers motor and tranny V code bench seat 4 speed, EV2 Bird.  Buildsheet, original owner still around, bought car off showroom floor from Monicatti in Detroit.  3rd owner who is still local did the restoration about 15-20 years ago.  Nice driver local show car, had trunk floor/extensions and lower quarters done.  Numbers seem all over the board, many comparables are either a 4 bbl or an auto, realistic value on the car?  I have owned the car 8 years and am thinking of letting it go, busy with family, other cars and interests, great car that should be getting more use than I have been giving it !

[moparstuart]

    100k      more pictures please

[y3chargerrt]

Wow nice car! BTW did you run someone over pulling into that spot! lol

[n9671x2]

Wow nice car! BTW did you run someone over pulling into that spot! lol

My daughter trying to stay out of the heat at Indy last year !

Sorry, I know I should have more/better pictures, but Superbirds all look the same so I never take many pictures of this car.  Interior is nice, dash/guages have not been redone.  Underhood is nice driver, correct manifolds, radiator etc..

[hemi68charger]

  100k      more pictures please

I would have to agree. I remember your car, it was very nice.......... I dig the 4-gear.. 

[FJ5WING]

Nice Bird....

I have no ideas of value but theres a console auto car listed on Moparts for $105.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7186006&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD

[WINGIN IT]

Are those torque thrusts on the car ?
Do you have original wheels ( may matter to some) .
Original jacks and spare ?

Wouldn't be looking to do any partial Mopar trades and cash wouldya?    (hint hint  )
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,91337.0.html

[Aero426]

Mags look nice on that car.

[n9671x2]

Mags look nice on that car.

I don't have the original wheels, and your right, these look better than the 14" deluxe full hubcaps and white walls it is coded for !

[WINGIN IT]

Mags look nice on that car.

I don't have the original wheels, and your right, these look better than the 14" deluxe full hubcaps and white walls it is coded for !

You could get full hubcaps on Superbirds? I thought only dog dishes?
I do like the current set for sure, not a fan of Rallyes .

[pettybird]

Mags look nice on that car.

Yeah, not bad...

[rainbow4jd]

Do you have an offer?

If not....

.... it's not worth anything.



I know this is my pet peeve - but nothing has value until you have an offer.    You should ask questions like.... "If I sold my Bird, can you recommend an asking price?"  OR, "How much insurance value should I purchase?" OR, "Would you have paid the $350,000 that I paid for this Bird?" (Answer: "NO!")

But ultimately, it is worth NOTHING until you have someone willing to actually hand you cash, check, or money order.

PS What is my opinion worth?


NOTHING - because it was given freely!

[n9671x2]

Do you have an offer?

If not....

.... it's not worth anything.



I know this is my pet peeve - but nothing has value until you have an offer.    You should ask questions like.... "If I sold my Bird, can you recommend an asking price?"  OR, "How much insurance value should I purchase?" OR, "Would you have paid the $350,000 that I paid for this Bird?" (Answer: "NO!")

But ultimately, it is worth NOTHING until you have someone willing to actually hand you cash, check, or money order.

PS What is my opinion worth?


NOTHING - because it was given freely!

My apologies to the board for my poorly worded post

[BIGBLCK11]

No apology needed.  There are WIW posts all the time on here.  It is HIS pet peeve, he should keep it that way, sarcastic or not.

Nice looking car! 

[moparstuart]

No apology needed.  There are WIW posts all the time on here.  It is HIS pet peeve, he should keep it that way, sarcastic or not.

Nice looking car! 

I agree you did fine

[held1823]

this should be your car. it looks great.

[moparstuart]

this should be your car. it looks great.

[69_500]

Are you bringing it back to Indy this year?

[n9671x2]

Thanks for the comments and pictures from Indy!  Enjoyed Indy last year, but a full summer on tap and will be out at Carlisle earlier in the month.  FWIW, 100k is about what I was thinking, I don't know that there have been many number v code 4 speed Birds changing hands under that price.

[WINGIN IT]

Great close up pic of those wheels, like them even more now .

Regarding WIW, $100K is about right , in my opinion.
There was a similar #'s matching V code console auto , similar color, nice driver,  that sold for about $93K I think.  It was posted here, out of TX I believe.
Could it have gotten more?  Maybe, but it least it's ball-park for you.
( especially in any trade scenarios.....  )

[hotrod98]

I say $120K to $130K  The value of non matching numbers cars and automatic cars tend to cloud the issue.

I think we will see all of the musclecars start to go up in value now that so many of them are going overseas.

[boss429kiwi]

You would be "blown away" of how many cars are leaving your shores (mostly high end cars)

I believe your 6 pack, 4 speed car would be worth more (NOT because I own one), its just that I have been doing some "homework".
Have a look at what has been sold at Mecum etc. Some are even higher than HEMI sales etc

6PK 4SP
Jan 12 $200K (sold)
Aug 11 $160K (sold)

HEMI
May 12 $167K (sold)
Aug 11 $205K (?)

[WINGIN IT]

You would be "blown away" of how many cars are leaving your shores (mostly high end cars)

I believe your 6 pack, 4 speed car would be worth more (NOT because I own one), its just that I have been doing some "homework".
Have a look at what has been sold at Mecum etc. Some are even higher than HEMI sales etc

6PK 4SP
Jan 12 $200K (sold)
Aug 11 $160K (sold)

HEMI
May 12 $167K (sold)
Aug 11 $205K (?)

Recent auction prices are all over the place.
That $167K Hemi is now being flipped on E-Bay.
It was during that same auction  a 4bbl 4 speed went for nearly the same price.   :shruggy:
Could be due to it was the only 4 speed wing car during that auction.

Only one way to find out WIW, put it up for sale or auction and let the offers come in.

[hotrod98]

At Mecum, if the bid goes to 150K, you will end up with about $138,500. Now deduct what you spent getting the car to the auction including travel and hotel expenses. If it doesn't hit reserve, you still have to deduct the expenses from that auction from the final sale price.

The thing is, it takes at least two people that really want your car. And, preferably several people that want your car. All auctions are hit or miss.

[WINGIN IT]

Exactly my point Larry, auction ARE hit and miss, and  I don't think you can rely heavily on what was paid and base your car on it.
The EK2 Hemi Superbird on E-bay now is a prime example ( he explains in detail how he ended up with the car ).

Ideally it would be nice to hear from private sellers tell us what they paid for their cars, but that's not likely going to happen...
Even if they did, it would subjective. Some might think they overpaid. I know of a few myself...

[Arnie Cunningham]

I have received calls from three people looking to buy/sell Superbirds in the past six months.
Two of those cars were 6 Pack 4 speed cars.  One of those people ended up with a 4 bbl car.
The sale that went through was for a car of comparable condition to yours - low mileage, numbers
Matching, nice car.  The final price was 85,000.  Keep in mind that this was a private sale from a long
time owner to a very sincere buyer who had wanted a winged car all his life.  The slightly lower price
was partly due to the seller wanting the car to go to someone who appreciated it - and for the car to stay with that person.
An appraisal for insurance values will probably put your car in the $125,000 range.  If you find someone who will provide a good home for the car and is willing to pay over 100K, I would take it.
Values may come up over the next couple of years if you are willing to wait a bit.
The 4 bbl cars are selling in the 65 to 90 range for nice average cars in private and semi-private sales.
The auctions are anyone's guess but may be worth a try if you're are feeling lucky.  You might make twice that 100k number.

[n9671x2]

Really appreciate all the opinions and comments.  I agree that it is some what hard to put a value on them when as mentioned you have auction sales all over the board.  Busy enough with life that I don't see myself taking it to an auction, I would like to think it would bring the 100k or so I think it may be worth.  As Arnie said, you just never know where it may end up if the timing is right.  Now I have to find time to get it out of my friends storage !

[Beep Beep Dave]

I think your car has a lot going for it. That's what I would want a bench seat 4-speed Six Barrel car. The known history is another big plus. Personally I would take an original sheetmetal car over matching engine but I think I am in the minority.

I think it would be + or - 100k depending on how good those rear quarters and metal work was done.

Sure is a nice problem to have 440+6 4-speed Superbird!

Dave