talk meets the track

[mopar0166]

69 dodge charger vs 93 corvette in a quarter mile race

69 dodge charger
   318 5.2l
   302 heads      
   Performer cam
   HEI Dist
   Hedman headers with cutouts
   Performer intake
   650 double pumper holley carb
   3.23 gears
   904 – fresh rebuild with tci kit
   2k torque converter
Some driving experience


VS


1993 corvette
   Stock - 5.7L 300 hp V8
              Auto
              High way gears 

              Little driving experience

Cant wait to see how the cars perform at the track

[Ghoste]

Tough call but since I automatically have to root for the Charger, I'm going to say driver experience will win the day.

[FLG]

It will be tough...but youll both be driving slowly 

Ill say 15's or so

Just get your R.T dialed in and youll stand a better chance as its probably going to come down to driver, hold the brakes and get the revs up a bit, when you see that last amber light...go for it.

[RallyeMike]

These cars are slow enough that driving experience does not count for much (except maybe a red light).

Not unlikely chances are the Holley is not spot on tune, so I'll bet on the FI car (Vette).

Sorry.

[Ghoste]

I don't know that i agree with that Mike.  To be sure in a fast car driving experience makes a big difference but in a slow car if one of those drivers has little to no drag racing experience it can show up in that situation too.  How many first timers have gone to the track with a killer combination and run 15's?  (I've seen a few)

[mopar0166]

thanks for all the comments, i ve been going to the track for a couple years with different cars.   the charger has been there a bunch as well.  im thinking with the 904 trans and 323 gears i got a chance. 

the holley is adjusted when we get to the track along with a hand ful of other things. 

should be a good time

[69rtse4spd]

That's all that matters having a good time. Rip the vet a new one, & you might just make him see the light of MOPAR POWER.

[mopar0166]

it'll be te last run for the small block , so hopefully it doesnt let me down

[RallyeMike]

I don't know that i agree with that Mike.  To be sure in a fast car driving experience makes a big difference but in a slow car if one of those drivers has little to no drag racing experience it can show up in that situation too.  How many first timers have gone to the track with a killer combination and run 15's?  (I've seen a few)

I didnt expect it it to a popular choice not being the Charger, but knowing nothing else than what is stated it's the best guess. Neither of these are "killer combos", and on a sticky drag strip with highway gears.... both cars are basically point, mash pedal on green, and steer straight. Not much to screw up even if your only experience is getting on a freeway ramp.

Facts are: The Vette weighs in a few hundred pounds less and has probably more stock HP than the modified 318. I'd love to see the Charger win, but I'm going with the odds.

[Ghoste]

I was thinking it could be largely decided right at the lights with starting line experience and reaction time being bigger factors than the cars themselves in this case.

[RallyeMike]

Not too worried unless the guy is on valium. I think the Vette will be more than 1 sec faster.

[charger_fan_4ever]

93 is it a Lt1 in the vette of still a tune port injection. I can say i was the most let down when i first floored my gta trans am with a 350TPI. Wow that thing was a dog.


Whoever has slicks on will win. Makes a long day at the track WITHOUT slicks.

[RallyeMike]

Vette 14.7

Charger 15.9

[BY RSCO]

Had a 93 vette - never ran it through the 1/4, but ran a best of 9.05 in the 1/8th in decent conditions - think you are looking at a BEST case for the vette at around 14.20 to 14.30 in the 1/4 - will be anxious to see what the Charger runs - Just for the record, don't wait til green or you are already late (unless it is a .400 pro tree), take off on 3rd yellow - but you may very well have way more track experience than me, and if so you already know that - most importantly - have fun and be safe!

[Scaregrabber]

Yeah: I don't see a good outcome for the Charger here. Hopefully I'm wrong. That Charger was a 19 second car dead stock.

Sheldon

[mopar0166]

we have already played around on a empty high so im hoping to see good performance from my charger even with a 318.  im hoping i have enough gearwith first and second gear to get eh job done

[charger_fan_4ever]

Worst case if you don't have slicks bolt on some M/T et Streets. They have a couple groves to make you think it might be tread, but its nothing more than a line to measure wear. Same compound as the ET drags. A 26 X 8 or 9 is plenty traction for a heavy car thats 300hp or less. On an auto it should just about dead hook.

[mopar0166]

sounds good

[tan top]

 would love to see the  Charger wining  , but think  the corvette  will take it  
think the plan is like what the other guys say , try to do the vette off the line , any chance you can borrow a 3.55 or 3.91 centre section & sicks

[mopar0166]

ive been trying to find another gear set but havent found anything in my price range.  id love to find something better

[Cooter]

There is something better....It's called Nitrous.

[mopar0166]

haha, id like to get car home on its own power as well

[FLG]

I say the vette runs 14.5 the charger 14.9

[68 Bullitt Charger]

Does it really matter at 15 second's in stock car's? 

[bull]

So when is this here showdown set to take place?

[Indygenerallee]

You said it was the last run for the small block?  I agree with using the biggest shot of Nitrous you can and borrow a set of slicks!! You can't let the Vette show you up!!! 

[Budnicks]

haha, id like to get car home on its own power as well

Set up properly a 75hp-100hp shot N20 won't hurt anything, just need the "N20 plate system" & a separate dedicated fuel system, fuel filter, electric fuel pump capable of sustaining 5-7psi flowing, a dedicated fuel regulator {bypass style preferably, but dead headed style can be used also}, minor fuel/N20 plumbing you can put a small 2 gallon cell up front even for the fuel for the N20 system, to simplify the plumbing & cost, some 10-12ga. solenoid wiring, 12-14ga. wiring with an arming switch & activation override switch, even a hobs switch for either fuel &/or oil pressure... easy peasy.... Beat the hell out of the Vette, he has a lighter car, with a better power to weight ratio... Cheat !! my man Cheat !!

[RallyeMike]

Does it really matter at 15 second's in stock car's?  shruggy

Hell yeah. If it's got an engine, race it 

[Vainglory, Esq.]

Does it really matter at 15 second's in stock car's?  shruggy

Hell yeah. If it's got an engine, race it 

Fun historical fact:

The very first race was held roughly 6 minutes after the second car was built.

[Cooter]

Lemme see....
Charger Gets the ever popular 318...But, weighs around 3700 Lbs. Of course, a drag race will take place between two cars that clearly have "Airplane" gears.


Vette...Has 350 C.I., more compression, better heads, bigger cam specs, better flowing exhaust, lower gearing in trans (Assuming it's the 700R4), possibly lighter car, Posi rear.

And what made you think that poor Charger had a chance again?

[mopar0166]

oh wait did i forget to mention he babies that vett like an old lady, i dont see him redlining it at all

[FLG]

oh wait did i forget to mention he babies that vett like an old lady, i dont see him redlining it at all

Funny my friend who babies his car constantly breaks things. I beat the crap out of mine...fix what breaks and than i find your left with a reliable car. Everything that would break does and the rest is solid 

[mopar0166]

very true

[cdr]

sorry but the vett will SPANK the charger

[Indygenerallee]

Im tellin' ya (in my best Fast and Furious voice) "you need more NOS!!!" 

[mopar0166]

yeah finally got the charger tuned up and ready to go, and its running extremley nice right now.  we had a couple of red light specail runs this weekend and i got the light everytime.   takes him a while to catch back up and i think he not opening the throtle enough

[RallyeMike]

You forgot to mention the Vette driver was a pussy.

Of course though, .... a 93 Vette.  I shoulda figured it out myself 



Come on now..... when is real run at the track?!

[mopar0166]

hopefully soon it was suppose to be this week but he said maybe in two weeks. 


might have better gears by then haha