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Started by mopar0166, May 02, 2012, 01:13:28 PM

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mopar0166

69 dodge charger vs 93 corvette in a quarter mile race

69 dodge charger
   318 5.2l
   302 heads      
   Performer cam
   HEI Dist
   Hedman headers with cutouts
   Performer intake
   650 double pumper holley carb
   3.23 gears
   904 – fresh rebuild with tci kit
   2k torque converter
Some driving experience


VS


1993 corvette
   Stock - 5.7L 300 hp V8
              Auto
              High way gears 

              Little driving experience

Cant wait to see how the cars perform at the track

Ghoste

Tough call but since I automatically have to root for the Charger, I'm going to say driver experience will win the day.

FLG

It will be tough...but youll both be driving slowly  :D

Ill say 15's or so

Just get your R.T dialed in and youll stand a better chance as its probably going to come down to driver, hold the brakes and get the revs up a bit, when you see that last amber light...go for it.

RallyeMike

These cars are slow enough that driving experience does not count for much (except maybe a red light).

Not unlikely chances are the Holley is not spot on tune, so I'll bet on the FI car (Vette).

Sorry.
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1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

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Ghoste

I don't know that i agree with that Mike.  To be sure in a fast car driving experience makes a big difference but in a slow car if one of those drivers has little to no drag racing experience it can show up in that situation too.  How many first timers have gone to the track with a killer combination and run 15's?  (I've seen a few)

mopar0166

thanks for all the comments, i ve been going to the track for a couple years with different cars.   the charger has been there a bunch as well.  im thinking with the 904 trans and 323 gears i got a chance. 

the holley is adjusted when we get to the track along with a hand ful of other things. 

should be a good time

69rtse4spd

That's all that matters having a good time. Rip the vet a new one, & you might just make him see the light of MOPAR POWER.

mopar0166

it'll be te last run for the small block , so hopefully it doesnt let me down

RallyeMike

QuoteI don't know that i agree with that Mike.  To be sure in a fast car driving experience makes a big difference but in a slow car if one of those drivers has little to no drag racing experience it can show up in that situation too.  How many first timers have gone to the track with a killer combination and run 15's?  (I've seen a few)

I didnt expect it it to a popular choice not being the Charger, but knowing nothing else than what is stated it's the best guess. Neither of these are "killer combos", and on a sticky drag strip with highway gears.... both cars are basically point, mash pedal on green, and steer straight. Not much to screw up even if your only experience is getting on a freeway ramp.

Facts are: The Vette weighs in a few hundred pounds less and has probably more stock HP than the modified 318. I'd love to see the Charger win, but I'm going with the odds.

1969 Charger 500 #232008
1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

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Ghoste

I was thinking it could be largely decided right at the lights with starting line experience and reaction time being bigger factors than the cars themselves in this case. :shruggy:

RallyeMike

Not too worried unless the guy is on valium. I think the Vette will be more than 1 sec faster.
1969 Charger 500 #232008
1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

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charger_fan_4ever

93 is it a Lt1 in the vette of still a tune port injection. I can say i was the most let down when i first floored my gta trans am with a 350TPI. Wow that thing was a dog.


Whoever has slicks on will win. Makes a long day at the track WITHOUT slicks.

RallyeMike

1969 Charger 500 #232008
1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

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BY RSCO

Had a 93 vette - never ran it through the 1/4, but ran a best of 9.05 in the 1/8th in decent conditions - think you are looking at a BEST case for the vette at around 14.20 to 14.30 in the 1/4 - will be anxious to see what the Charger runs - Just for the record, don't wait til green or you are already late (unless it is a .400 pro tree), take off on 3rd yellow - but you may very well have way more track experience than me, and if so you already know that :) - most importantly - have fun and be safe!

Scaregrabber

Yeah: I don't see a good outcome for the Charger here. Hopefully I'm wrong. That Charger was a 19 second car dead stock.

Sheldon

mopar0166

we have already played around on a empty high so im hoping to see good performance from my charger even with a 318.  im hoping i have enough gearwith first and second gear to get eh job done

charger_fan_4ever

Worst case if you don't have slicks bolt on some M/T et Streets. They have a couple groves to make you think it might be tread, but its nothing more than a line to measure wear. Same compound as the ET drags. A 26 X 8 or 9 is plenty traction for a heavy car thats 300hp or less. On an auto it should just about dead hook.

mopar0166


tan top

 would love to see the  Charger wining  , but think  the corvette  will take it   :icon_smile_blackeye:
think the plan is like what the other guys say , try to do the vette off the line , any chance you can borrow a 3.55 or 3.91 centre section & sicks :scratchchin:
:popcrn:


Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

mopar0166

ive been trying to find another gear set but havent found anything in my price range.  id love to find something better

Cooter

There is something better....It's called Nitrous.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

mopar0166

haha, id like to get car home on its own power as well

FLG

I say the vette runs 14.5 the charger 14.9


68 Bullitt Charger

Does it really matter at 15 second's in stock car's?  :shruggy:
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I'd rather be hated for the person I am, than be loved for the person I am not!!!!!!

bull

So when is this here showdown set to take place?

Indygenerallee

You said it was the last run for the small block?  :D :D :D I agree with using the biggest shot of Nitrous you can and borrow a set of slicks!! You can't let the Vette show you up!!!  :lol:
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

Budnicks

Quote from: mopar0166 on May 03, 2012, 12:12:31 PM
haha, id like to get car home on its own power as well

Set up properly a 75hp-100hp shot N20 won't hurt anything, just need the "N20 plate system" & a separate dedicated fuel system, fuel filter, electric fuel pump capable of sustaining 5-7psi flowing, a dedicated fuel regulator {bypass style preferably, but dead headed style can be used also}, minor fuel/N20 plumbing you can put a small 2 gallon cell up front even for the fuel for the N20 system, to simplify the plumbing & cost, some 10-12ga. solenoid wiring, 12-14ga. wiring with an arming switch & activation override switch, even a hobs switch for either fuel &/or oil pressure... easy peasy.... Beat the hell out of the Vette, he has a lighter car, with a better power to weight ratio... Cheat !! my man Cheat !!
"fill your library before you fill your garage"   Budnicks

RallyeMike

QuoteDoes it really matter at 15 second's in stock car's?  shruggy

Hell yeah. If it's got an engine, race it  :2thumbs:
1969 Charger 500 #232008
1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

Drive as fast as you want to on a public road! Click here for info: http://www.sscc.us/

Vainglory, Esq.

Quote from: RallyeMike on May 03, 2012, 10:34:00 PM
QuoteDoes it really matter at 15 second's in stock car's?  shruggy

Hell yeah. If it's got an engine, race it  :2thumbs:

Fun historical fact:

The very first race was held roughly 6 minutes after the second car was built.

Cooter

Lemme see....
Charger Gets the ever popular 318...But, weighs around 3700 Lbs. Of course, a drag race will take place between two cars that clearly have "Airplane" gears.


Vette...Has 350 C.I., more compression, better heads, bigger cam specs, better flowing exhaust, lower gearing in trans (Assuming it's the 700R4), possibly lighter car, Posi rear.

And what made you think that poor Charger had a chance again?
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

mopar0166

oh wait did i forget to mention he babies that vett like an old lady, i dont see him redlining it at all

FLG

Quote from: mopar0166 on May 04, 2012, 06:59:44 AM
oh wait did i forget to mention he babies that vett like an old lady, i dont see him redlining it at all


Funny my friend who babies his car constantly breaks things. I beat the crap out of mine...fix what breaks and than i find your left with a reliable car. Everything that would break does and the rest is solid  :2thumbs:

mopar0166


cdr

sorry but the vett will SPANK the charger
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Indygenerallee

Im tellin' ya (in my best Fast and Furious voice) "you need more NOS!!!"  :lol: :smilielol:
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

mopar0166

yeah finally got the charger tuned up and ready to go, and its running extremley nice right now.  we had a couple of red light specail runs this weekend and i got the light everytime.   takes him a while to catch back up and i think he not opening the throtle enough

RallyeMike

You forgot to mention the Vette driver was a pussy.

Of course though, .... a 93 Vette.  I shoulda figured it out myself  :rotz:



Come on now..... when is real run at the track?!
1969 Charger 500 #232008
1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

Drive as fast as you want to on a public road! Click here for info: http://www.sscc.us/

mopar0166

hopefully soon it was suppose to be this week but he said maybe in two weeks. 


might have better gears by then haha