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If car sits more than 8 hrs it takes 45 sec of cranking to start

Started by AKcharger, April 20, 2012, 01:02:16 AM

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AKcharger

But if car has been running within 4 hours or so it fires up at the 1st touch of the key?

OK, I've dug my car out for spring and need to tackel this problem, which is obviously fuel delivery. As stated if car sits it takes (almost exactly) 45 secs worth of cranking to get it to fire, then it's fine...till it sits. I'm thinking some of those old rubber fuel line splices or fuel pump. Here's some other info

- Fuel line - Standard 40 year old fuel line, has a few rubber splices but no leaks
- Fuel tank - Replaced with new in '05
- Fuel Pump - Replaced with new '05
- Carb - New Edelbrock 600 '05

Any one ran into this of have suggestions?

Thanks AK

Fred

What you need is an electric in line fuel priming pump. Mine starts up first time every time no matter how long she sits untouched.


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AKcharger

But I don't want an electric in-line priming pump. If I have to prime the car everytime it's kinda like a very expensive and elaborate band-aid®.  Not trying to flame ya for the advice, just looking of a more conventional fix  :pity:

charger Downunder

Worn fuel pump pushrod.
Put in a new fuel pump when you check it.
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Just 6T9 CHGR

When I swapped out my trusty Holley 750 for the original Carter I had the same problem as you starting.  I was told it was "inherent to the design" of the carb.


I now have my trusty Holley back on :Twocents:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


W4ATL

I have a new starter that spins the motor a lot faster than the stock starter so it gets gas to the carb a lot faster. Only takes about 10 seconds to get it cranked when its been sitting for a long time.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,42561.0.html

gtx6970

I've fixed a couple issues like this with a thicker carb to manifold gasket.

BUT,,,,, it is a common problem with the AFB/AVS carb design

chargd72

Had the same problem and thought it was my eddy.  Check all the rubber hoses on the fuel line CAREFULLY.  There was a small slit in the rubber by the fuel sending unit and I was sucking air taking forever to prime.

          '72 Charger SE 4bbl 318                          '76 Power Wagon 400 W200                                 2011 (attempt at a) Charger

AKcharger

Thanks guys, Good advice all!
- I recall measuring the fuel rod during engine rebuild, recall that being a problem. If nothing else fixes it I may go back to that
- 6T9/GTX yup, had that same problem when I had a cast Iron intake, but with an aluminium not a issue (Gets hot vapor lock) in fact also had the same thing with my '70 it would get hot and I'd have to crank it a while, got a spacer for that one
- 72 I think you got it, I'll likely just swap out all the rubber fuel lines to make sure

:2thumbs:

NHCharger

If you do a search on this site you'll find this a common problem with the Eddy carb. design. Today's crappy gas is part of the problem. I have Eddy's on both my Chargers. both require pumping the pedal to start if they've be sitting for more than a day. I put a manual choke on the 72 and it made a big difference on ease of starting. Have to put one on the 71 some year.
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Budnicks

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on April 20, 2012, 05:38:20 AM
When I swapped out my trusty Holley 750 for the original Carter I had the same problem as you starting.  I was told it was "inherent to the design" of the carb.


I now have my trusty Holley back on :Twocents:
Bingo we have a winner    :hah: both the Edelbrock & Carters AFB's both do that allot, there is fixes for it usually a complete gasket change & float reset... Look for misaliened gasket or bad castings also... Buy the book "How to tune an Edelbrock/Carter Carburetor for performance" or some thing like that... I think Mancini Racing sells them...  also try the Edelbrock web-site, this is a very common problem with Edelbrock carbs...
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c00nhunterjoe

Id swap it for a holley. No problems on my end. Stock mechanical pump, rubber lines, 750 holley. Fires right up, doesn't matter how long it sits.

ACUDANUT

If i have Mechanical fuel pump, I always have to dump a 1/4 cup of gas down the carb to get the fueling moving. I am all for a Holley 750 with a electric fuel pump.  It always fires right up.