Busted trying to sell cloned car

[aussiemuscle]

Ohio man busted for trying to sell cloned Chevelle Z16 as the real thing

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2012/04/12/ohio-man-busted-for-trying-to-sell-cloned-chevelle-z16-as-the-real-thing/?refer=news

homemade VIN, with the incorrect codes and sequence within it

[Fred]

[Dans 68]

Jeff Helms sure knows his stuff. But that can be said for all the Helms boys....   

Dan (Helms)

[Bob T]

Interesting stuff, I had 71 Valiant Charger R/T 2bbl 3 speed that had been fitted with E49 spec motor, tripple webers and 4 speed and it had been sold as an genuine 49 at one stage by a previous owner years before I ever owned it I believe...Got to know what you are looking at and how to identify it or get someone that can
If you know what and where to look for the telltales you can save a lot of pain and $$$


Daniel Strohl says:
April 12, 2012 at 5:43 pm There may not be enough Jeff Helmses in the world, but there are certainly enough honest car collectors out there. The honest car collectors just need to be more vocal about the frauds they see, as many others here have already stated


Good site for info on the Z16 Dan too, your brother knows his stuff alright
learning as we go  

Which is a good arguement for the 1968 Registry as well, it puts the relevant information in one place for referance purposes and gives a few clues for what to look for if a potential buyer is viewing

[Ghoste]

I'm glad they caught him.

[Cooter]

Trying to sell a clone high? Not surprizing.....

Surprizing? The number of people in the average public that get annoyed at someone making HUGE coin from the sale of said clones....



One cannot blame the SELLERS of these cars..They are common crooks just like Real estate sales people(Some sell sh*t knowing full and well it's someone's life savings), and used car salesmen....They are just trying to peel your wallet. IT's the BUYERS that need a swift kick in the balls for being that Blind/trusting/stupid, and having the balls to complain about being screwed afterwards. Lemme see, you bent over for the salesman, let him slide one right up your ass, then you want to say something like you can't believe he/she did that to you?
In this economy, people are out for blood(money). They don't care if your great Granny just died and left you the money your Grand pappy died for in the mines of W. Va. for ...They will rape you for it, laugh when you complain, then have the odasity to dance on your Granny's grave.


This is ALMOST as bad as watching/hearing bout the number of folks that get hosed from Bodyshops doing "Restos"...

[Dans 68]

...Good site for info on the Z16 Dan too, your brother knows his stuff alright
learning as we go  

In the interest of full disclosure Jeff is not my brother. He probably is related at least 5 or 6 generations back but my comment was just an humerous (at least in my mind) attempt to laud myself.    But yes another compelling reason to have a registry to fully vet these cars. 

Dan (not that) Helms

[djcarguy]

Trying to sell a clone high? Not surprizing.....

Surprizing? The number of people in the average public that get annoyed at someone making HUGE coin from the sale of said clones....



One cannot blame the SELLERS of these cars..They are common crooks just like Real estate sales people(Some sell sh*t knowing full and well it's someone's life savings), and used car salesmen....They are just trying to peel your wallet. IT's the BUYERS that need a swift kick in the balls for being that Blind/trusting/stupid, and having the balls to complain about being screwed afterwards. Lemme see, you bent over for the salesman, let him slide one right up your ass, then you want to say something like you can't believe he/she did that to you?
In this economy, people are out for blood(money). They don't care if your great Granny just died and left you the money your Grand pappy died for in the mines of W. Va. for ...They will rape you for it, laugh when you complain, then have the odasity to dance on your Granny's grave.


This is ALMOST as bad as watching/hearing bout the number of folks that get hosed from Bodyshops doing "Restos"...

totaly agreemy stupid ex was that way believe all smile and sign then think days later i got screwed,,,,,dumb bitch wanted to sign for 14,oook for vinyl windows,,the house was only 54k,,and heat bill was cheap//////////////////////???  think ,,,look,,,think somemore,,,before ya by the farm????hahaa

[Bob T]

...Good site for info on the Z16 Dan too, your brother knows his stuff alright
learning as we go 

In the interest of full disclosure Jeff is not my brother. He probably is related at least 5 or 6 generations back but my comment was just an humerous (at least in my mind) attempt to laud myself.    But yes another compelling reason to have a registry to fully vet these cars. 

Dan (not that) Helms

Ok, its a big place 

[RallyeMike]

Clearly, this one guy making the "Z16" had no clue whatsoever.

The one's that we are not hearing about are the ones that are scary - there are people who are just as unscrupulous as this guy who DO have a clue.

[1974dodgecharger]

Well said cooter well said 

Trying to sell a clone high? Not surprizing.....

Surprizing? The number of people in the average public that get annoyed at someone making HUGE coin from the sale of said clones....



One cannot blame the SELLERS of these cars..They are common crooks just like Real estate sales people(Some sell sh*t knowing full and well it's someone's life savings), and used car salesmen....They are just trying to peel your wallet. IT's the BUYERS that need a swift kick in the balls for being that Blind/trusting/stupid, and having the balls to complain about being screwed afterwards. Lemme see, you bent over for the salesman, let him slide one right up your ass, then you want to say something like you can't believe he/she did that to you?
In this economy, people are out for blood(money). They don't care if your great Granny just died and left you the money your Grand pappy died for in the mines of W. Va. for ...They will rape you for it, laugh when you complain, then have the odasity to dance on your Granny's grave.


This is ALMOST as bad as watching/hearing bout the number of folks that get hosed from Bodyshops doing "Restos"...

[68 Bullitt Charger]

The Buyer should have punched him in the face! Today Everyone has "Original" rare muscle car's yet they never made that many. Lot's of Crook's out there and all kind's of scam's.