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60 minutes great story on chrysler turn around

Started by moparstuart, March 28, 2012, 08:31:36 AM

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moparstuart

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moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

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nh_mopar_fan

We taxpayers took a $1.3B bath on that deal. They will not be paying that money back.


DC_1

Quote from: nh_mopar_fan on March 28, 2012, 04:36:02 PM
We taxpayers took a $1.3B bath on that deal. They will not be paying that money back.



And what do you think it would have cost the taxpayer to have all the people from those companies, as well as suppliers, unemployed?

Chrysler already paid the largest of the bailout money they took back - with interest I might add!

moparstuart

Quote from: DC_1(formerly Sydmoe) on March 28, 2012, 04:52:54 PM
Quote from: nh_mopar_fan on March 28, 2012, 04:36:02 PM
We taxpayers took a $1.3B bath on that deal. They will not be paying that money back.



And what do you think it would have cost the taxpayer to have all the people from those companies, as well as suppliers, unemployed?

Chrysler already paid the largest of the bailout money they took back - with interest I might add!
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:    if chrysler went under it would have hurt many supplier and killed off most .  :Twocents:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

nh_mopar_fan

Yeah, I think you misunderstand. I think it's a great story and he seems like a smart and likable guy.

I object to the word games they play when they claim they have repaid "all the money" when what they really are saying is that they repaid the money from the 2nd round of bailouts.

Why be disingenuous like that?

http://money.cnn.com/2011/07/21/autos/chrysler_government_exit/index.htm

DC_1

Quote from: nh_mopar_fan on March 28, 2012, 04:58:05 PM
Yeah, I think you misunderstand. I think it's a great story and he seems like a smart and likable guy.

I object to the word games they play when they claim they have repaid "all the money" when what they really are saying is that they repaid the money from the 2nd round of bailouts.

Why be disingenuous like that?

http://money.cnn.com/2011/07/21/autos/chrysler_government_exit/index.htm

:2thumbs: Can't argue with that. It's definitely true that not everything that was given to try and keep Chrysler and GM a float will make its way back to the government, at least not directly. It will result in a lot of decent paying jobs continuing to generate income tax for the government so I still think it was better than the alternative. IMO


nh_mopar_fan

I agree. Although it's a shame that the investors got left holding the bag in the bankruptcy. What Daimler did to Chrysler was criminal.

redmist

It should have been purchased by another private entity just like any other company that goes bankrupt, and it would have been. Screw GM, and screw the Government.

I want my dividend check!   ;)

ETA:  My guess is you will see GM FAIL again.
JUNKTRAVELER: all I've seen in this thread is a bunch of bullies and 3 guys that actually give a crap.

DC_1

Quote from: redmist on March 28, 2012, 11:35:05 PM
It should have been purchased by another private entity just like any other company that goes bankrupt


Ya...cause that worked out so well for Chrysler when the "Private" equity firm Cerberus owned them.....


And let's not forget that they (at least Chrysler) were shopped around for 2 years at "Fire Sale" and "No Resonable Offer Refused" rates and not even the Chinese auto companies, who are dying to get into the North Amercan market, would touch them with a 10 foot pole.

bakerhillpins

Quote from: DC_1(formerly Sydmoe) on March 29, 2012, 03:29:05 PM
And let's not forget that they (at least Chrysler) were shopped around for 2 years at "Fire Sale" and "No Resonable Offer Refused" rates and not even the Chinese auto companies, who are dying to get into the North Amercan market, would touch them with a 10 foot pole.

China probably would have bought the company, if they could have jettisoned the Unions. They aren't really equipped to "bargain" with employees that way.  :shruggy:

I have a lot of mixed feelings about the whole deal but rather than  :horse: ...  I digress.
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