69 Charger in clay model design

[Troy]

Wow, hard to believe all of that is clay.  I can see the grille area being clay but the bumpers, doors, etc?  Seems like an awful lot of work when they could have just used 68 pieces in its place since it didnt change that much.

The one picture appears to have a date of 1-30-67 on it. The 68s weren't in production yet.

Troy

[69 OUR/TEA]

Wow, hard to believe all of that is clay.  I can see the grille area being clay but the bumpers, doors, etc?  Seems like an awful lot of work when they could have just used 68 pieces in its place since it didnt change that much.

The one picture appears to have a date of 1-30-67 on it. The 68s weren't in production yet.

Troy

True,the 68's were'nt out yet.

[1969chargerrtse]

Paul amazing pictures. Thanks. Chargerjy9 it's great to have someone like you on the site. Share more!!

I love how you can see a designers face through the rear glass.

Chris is right get these scanned and on the Hamtramck site with all the archive info.

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/

[chargerjy9]

Would this be the same glass buck for 68 and 69 then?

yes, it could have been.
also, even though the 68's were not in production then ( as to the 1/30/67 date on the pic ). there certainly were body-in-whites around then. BIW is a prototype sheet metal body that is assembled to make sure everything goes together.  The 1/30/67 timeframe would be just about right to get that model tooled and ready for 69 production.
For WIW I have over 40 years in the business. some 8 years working as a die pattern maker and wood model maker. I worked for Chrysler and AMC in the styling studios as a clay modeler and I worked 5 years with Larry Shinoda ( designer of 63 split window Corvette and Boss Mustang , etc) doing heavy duty trucks and tractors for White Motors.  If ever any one  here needs insight as to the Styling Process, I am more than happy to relate my experiences.

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[BigBlackDodge]

Would this be the same glass buck for 68 and 69 then?

yes, it could have been.
also, even though the 68's were not in production then ( as to the 1/30/67 date on the pic ). there certainly were body-in-whites around then. BIW is a prototype sheet metal body that is assembled to make sure everything goes together.  The 1/30/67 timeframe would be just about right to get that model tooled and ready for 69 production.
For WIW I have over 40 years in the business. some 8 years working as a die pattern maker and wood model maker. I worked for Chrysler and AMC in the styling studios as a clay modeler and I worked 5 years with Larry Shinoda ( designer of 63 split window Corvette and Boss Mustang , etc) doing heavy duty trucks and tractors for White Motors.  If ever any one  here needs insight as to the Styling Process, I am more than happy to relate my experiences.

Is that a special type floor the car is siting in? Some sort of work platform? Surface plate?

Thanks!


BBD

[gtx6970]

Would this be the same glass buck for 68 and 69 then?

yes, it could have been.
also, even though the 68's were not in production then ( as to the 1/30/67 date on the pic ). there certainly were body-in-whites around then. BIW is a prototype sheet metal body that is assembled to make sure everything goes together.  The 1/30/67 timeframe would be just about right to get that model tooled and ready for 69 production.

Thats what I was thinking , body in whites +/or pilot cars are ready LONG before production begins

[DC_1]

Would this be the same glass buck for 68 and 69 then?

yes, it could have been.
also, even though the 68's were not in production then ( as to the 1/30/67 date on the pic ). there certainly were body-in-whites around then. BIW is a prototype sheet metal body that is assembled to make sure everything goes together.  The 1/30/67 timeframe would be just about right to get that model tooled and ready for 69 production.
For WIW I have over 40 years in the business. some 8 years working as a die pattern maker and wood model maker. I worked for Chrysler and AMC in the styling studios as a clay modeler and I worked 5 years with Larry Shinoda ( designer of 63 split window Corvette and Boss Mustang , etc) doing heavy duty trucks and tractors for White Motors.  If ever any one  here needs insight as to the Styling Process, I am more than happy to relate my experiences.

Do you have any pics you can share of some of the things you worked on?

[chargerjy9]

Would this be the same glass buck for 68 and 69 then?

yes, it could have been.
also, even though the 68's were not in production then ( as to the 1/30/67 date on the pic ). there certainly were body-in-whites around then. BIW is a prototype sheet metal body that is assembled to make sure everything goes together.  The 1/30/67 timeframe would be just about right to get that model tooled and ready for 69 production.
For WIW I have over 40 years in the business. some 8 years working as a die pattern maker and wood model maker. I worked for Chrysler and AMC in the styling studios as a clay modeler and I worked 5 years with Larry Shinoda ( designer of 63 split window Corvette and Boss Mustang , etc) doing heavy duty trucks and tractors for White Motors.  If ever any one  here needs insight as to the Styling Process, I am more than happy to relate my experiences.

Is that a special type floor the car is siting in? Some sort of work platform? Surface plate?

Thanks!


BBD

yes, all of the above. the model sits on a surface plate on 4 pins called risers which are hgt adjustable, and will locate model at same postion whenever it is moved in and out. Around the car, all 4 sides is a rail which is level to the world and has measurement gradation marks so one can put in and take from the model surface points which describe the volume and shapes.
I have a couple of pics to share
#1 Crossfire in platform small car studio

#2 AMC 2010 Marlin scale model. some of my AMC pals and I did this 2 years ago for kicks. now we are working on a proposal for 2013 Nash Metrpolitan that will drop on to a Fiat 500 platform

[Magnumcharger]

A similar situation...

[Magnumcharger]

I fixed up your pictures....hope you don't mind!

[rarefish]

It looks like the entire ceiling in the studio is lighting....

[Brock Samson]

Thanks for sharing these awesome pics..  Thanks Robin for fixin 'em up! 

[Magnumcharger]

Cool..I got the clay pictures of the 66 Charger here somewhere from back in 1963

Bryan

This pic?

[A383Wing]

Cool..I got the clay pictures of the 66 Charger here somewhere from back in 1963

Bryan

This pic?

yea...those and I think one or 2 others....one from drivers front, and one showing interior with package shelf instead of cargo area

Bryan

[BigBlackDodge]

Somewhere there's a pic of the '68 with two different tail lights, the round ones and one that looks very coronet-ish.


BBD

[Ghoste]

There are also some pics of a Charger clay with a very drawn out more "Marlin-esque" looking fastback on it and dual fuel filler caps.

[SuperJim]

Very VERY interesting post here. A "thank you" to all participating and sharing. This is just very cool to see. More clay... more clay... more clay...

[chargerjy9]

It looks like the entire ceiling in the studio is lighting....

light is very important. yes the whole ceiling is lit. one needs to read the "hi lites".  light source reflecting off the clay surface shows dips and holes, high spots and tightness of convex and concave surfs. how the surface flows.  oh, I could go on and on......

[cdr]

Somewhere there's a pic of the '68 with two different tail lights, the round ones and one that looks very coronet-ish.


BBD

[cdr]

68 clay