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Mustang Owner Arrested mid-burnout

Started by Drache, March 20, 2012, 07:51:44 AM

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Mike DC

QuoteI HAVE had vehicles seized Mike. Learned an imprtant lesson too. I learned not even your kin folk can get it back for you...Wanna know what? Stopped the street racing after that too.

QuoteGotta say that's what worked in California too, and back in the day a race could go down anywhere, anytime, whether it was safe or not.  I'm glad the street racing is pretty much dead, but I will also say that I'm not crazy about the idea of confiscation either.  I guess the only true course of action is for people to grow the hell up so we don't have to worry about street racing or government infringement...

Okay.  

So they should fine people XXX dollars for street racing, and if you can't pay the fine after 30 or 60 or 90 days, THEN the authorities have the right to confiscate your vehicle to cover the debt.  (At which point, YOU get whatever money was left over after they sell the car at auction and recoup the fine amount.)  


And I don't believe for a second that nobody else has thought of this before now.  The authorities could be using a fair system to do these confiscations.  Why aren't they? 

 

Cooter

Had a 1975 Chevy Luv pick-up with a tight little small block 434 in it. Got busted  making a pass on Friday night, cop told me he COULD take my vehicle and I could be hauled in, but was gonna let me off with a ticket for illeagal street racing. I like these idiots in this video, got cocky and decided I'd push my luck again the next night (Sat.). I guess being young and dumb, I didn't figure all cops talked to each other and knew my vehicle and me by FIRST name basis, so I got busted again. This time the cop told me "You didn't learn anything from last night did 'ya?"  I was ok till he told me to step out of the truck and began removing my plates as he called the tow truck. Said these words I'll never forget....
"Since you feel the need to show everybody how fast this thing is out here on the street, you can let someone else have it now"...
I asked "What?" He said "you just lost your ride". I was 20 Y/O at the time. Never saw the auction, or even heard one word about that truck till a friend who has kin folk in another county said "What were you doing down my neck-o-the woods last night? I saw the Luv at Sonic"...

It was then that I knew even with the cops smart ass remark, I had better give this sh*t up. Never made another pass on the street after that. Then, I met the wifey in '97 and once kids came in the picture, I pretty much gave up racing all together.
Now, I'm lucky if I make it to the track once in a blue moon. Last time was 2005.
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cavemanno1

I think taking your ride is way too steep!Fine you yeah,take your license away ok but taking your ride?What if it was someone else's ride then what?I think it is close to be like a police state rather then free country!What if they accuse you for making a pass and they wanna take your ride away!You guys and your love for suing everyone for everything how can they do this?

Kern Dog

Asset forfeiture is a nice term for stealing under the authority of the government. Taking a persons car or being arrested for doing a burnout is excessive. On the other hand, this video does not tell the whole story. The police may have cuffed and stuffed the guy, but then released him after citing him. I usually respect the badge, but not always the ones that they report to.
Cooter, your title of "Old Timer" should be changed to : "Old curmudgeon" since you write as if we all should never speed, fail to use proper turn signals or let our registration lapse for 83 seconds for fear of violating the law.  :icon_smile_big: The siezure of property is a blatant abuse of government authority.
NO, I've never had anything siezed. I just hate big government.

cavemanno1

Quote from: Red 70 R/T 493 on March 29, 2012, 04:03:34 AM
Asset forfeiture is a nice term for stealing under the authority of the government. Taking a persons car or being arrested for doing a burnout is excessive. On the other hand, this video does not tell the whole story. The police may have cuffed and stuffed the guy, but then released him after citing him. I usually respect the badge, but not always the ones that they report to.
Cooter, your title of "Old Timer" should be changed to : "Old curmudgeon" since you write as if we all should never speed, fail to use proper turn signals or let our registration lapse for 83 seconds for fear of violating the law.  :icon_smile_big: The siezure of property is a blatant abuse of government authority.
NO, I've never had anything siezed. I just hate big government.

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Cooter

Quote from: Red 70 R/T 493 on March 29, 2012, 04:03:34 AM
Asset forfeiture is a nice term for stealing under the authority of the government. Taking a persons car or being arrested for doing a burnout is excessive. On the other hand, this video does not tell the whole story. The police may have cuffed and stuffed the guy, but then released him after citing him. I usually respect the badge, but not always the ones that they report to.
Cooter, your title of "Old Timer" should be changed to : "Old curmudgeon" since you write as if we all should never speed, fail to use proper turn signals or let our registration lapse for 83 seconds for fear of violating the law.  :icon_smile_big: The siezure of property is a blatant abuse of government authority.
NO, I've never had anything siezed. I just hate big government.

Nope, hate big Government all you want, it is here and the more you fight it, the more it's gonna hurt..Just relax and don't break the f*cking law ..Simple...
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Kern Dog

Oh Cooter, your perspective is just sad. You have apparantly given up. THAT's what THEY want.... Weak citizens that they can control.
When the laws are unjust, what sense is it to just lay down your pride and abide by them? How can anyone feel good about themselves when they go down THAT road?

71 b-body charger

If the car started to go sideways i can see them jumping in at that point, but with it staying in that one spot i see nothing wrong with it. Plus if he went forward the front of his (Rustang) would of been totaled.
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chargersb71

I see nothing wrong with the burnout itself.  But I will not stand anywhere near that close to vehicles doing a burnout much less in that big of a crowd.

Cooter

Quote from: Red 70 R/T 493 on March 29, 2012, 02:02:27 PM
Oh Cooter, your perspective is just sad. You have apparantly given up. THAT's what THEY want.... Weak citizens that they can control.
When the laws are unjust, what sense is it to just lay down your pride and abide by them? How can anyone feel good about themselves when they go down THAT road?

Youngin' you misunderstand and post accordingly. one more time. Try and grab this if you can. Nobody's "Given" up. All i was trying to convey to you was the fact that you want to fight the powers that be, fine go right ahead...Some of us are smarter and try NOT to be in the fighting position in the first place. By not doing something as STUPID and ARROGANT as this little PUNK did, you will never have to worry bout "Big Government"...

Only when you have people that once something like this happenes, they want to try and Call "Big Government" when this was clearly a case of Lack of respect for the law..You don't have any? Guess what? Sh*t like this happens. Some of us will never have to worry bout  having to deal with that end of the spectrum, as we tend to do our Burnouts at the track right before the front wheels leave the ground on our way to a mid 10 sec. pass, not on a street full of people after a cop just warned us to stop....That my friend is being a dumbass, arrogant, idiot...THAT is why I said what I said about these types of punks and taking their car.
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Kern Dog

Okay Cooter, I see your point. I agree. Burnouts around crowds of people really isn't the actions of a person thinking responsibly.

71charger

I bet you if it was a old charger the cops would have let him go. lol thts what happens when you own a mustang... :popcrn:
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Mike DC

 
Suppose I hate my neighbor and he steals stuff from me.  Then the cops put him in prison on a trumped-up charge just because they don't like him either. 

I might be glad the cops got him out of my hair.  I might not be sorry he got locked up.  But I would still vote against the authorities having the power to do what they did to him. 


Ghoste

An almost religious belief in the rights of the individual and private property are (were? ) one of the things that separate the United States from a very large part of the rest of the world.

Cooter

Quote from: Ghoste on April 04, 2012, 05:53:47 AM
An almost religious belief in the rights of the individual and private property are (were? ) one of the things that separate the United States from a very large part of the rest of the world.

I'm a firm believer in individuals rights as much as the next guy, but round here, you get caught illeagally street racing/excessively speeding, you lose your ride. End of story. Believe all you want. Capital Punishment can be argued till the cows come home. Not even interested in trying. AGAIN, simple, don't break the damn law, you have nothing to worry bout. Too late to argue your "Rights" AFTER the fact.
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Ghoste

Well, why stop there then?  Obviously people are still doing it so the message isnt getting through so why not take everything.  And why just for speeding or street racing?  If you break a law, you lose all property, period, end of story.

(you do see where this is going right?)

SRT-440

I understand them taking old hot rods, but these new cars with liens on them seems like more trouble than the cops are looking for...in other words..the car is owned by a bank or whatever. It would take a lot of paper work and man hours to handle that. If you do something stupid and get caught u need to pay the fine...there are other ways to kick ppl in the nuts than just taking their car.

There was prolly more to this story than just a burnout. Like Cooter said, it's possible this guy is a repeat offender and he just blew his last chance.
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Cooter

Lemme see, I know full and well illeagal Drugs can cost me everything. Confiscated. No questions. I think i'll go out and cook up a batch and when the law (DEA) decides to "Confiscate" EVERYTHING I own (Even if I DID NOT buy it with drug money), I think I'm Gonna b*tch about how wrong it is to allow the law to "Take things" from decent people like myself who clearly knew I was breaking the law, but that shouldn't matter. This is the USA where I can and should be able to get all my possesions back. I mean what kind of country would this be if Drug Lords weren't allowed to keep their Bently's and $60 Million homes?

How DARE the DEA  and "Big Government" come and take my possesions just because I was told the day before what the consequeses of dealing/manufacturing/selling drugs was. Just because I was looking for the easy money, they can't do this!? This is an outrage!


[CAUTION: As stupid as this sounds, I'm sure there are a few that actually believe this.]

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Drache

You're so right! Hell speeding is illegal isn't it? So how about if you go 5 over the speed limit you lose your ride? I like that idea!
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Ghoste

Of course that particular program was started as seizing the assets of criminal activity, a not so subtle difference.  Even in that case, there is a thing about innocent until proven guilty, allowing the police to take your vehicle on the spot sounds like punishment without trial to me but whatever.
Suppose you had a 15 year old in the house who you were legally repsonsible for and he was doing a burnout in your car, should they take the car then?

Mike DC

QuoteLemme see, I know full and well illeagal Drugs can cost me everything. Confiscated. No questions. I think i'll go out and cook up a batch and when the law (DEA) decides to "Confiscate" EVERYTHING I own (Even if I DID NOT buy it with drug money), I think I'm Gonna b*tch about how wrong it is to allow the law to "Take things" from decent people like myself who clearly knew I was breaking the law, but that shouldn't matter. This is the USA where I can and should be able to get all my possesions back. I mean what kind of country would this be if Drug Lords weren't allowed to keep their Bently's and $60 Million homes?

What kind of country is it where your punishment gets adjusted for how wealthy you are?  What kind of country is it where a Bentley owner loses hundreds of thousands of dollars and a crackhead only loses hundreds of dollars, for the same crime?  

This is nothing less than "income redistribution" by the judicial system. 


Vainglory, Esq.

Cooter, you're why this country can't have nice things. Put the hat on and sit in the corner.

71 b-body charger

Quote from: Drache on April 04, 2012, 12:09:25 PM
You're so right! Hell speeding is illegal isn't it? So how about if you go 5 over the speed limit you lose your ride? I like that idea!
I wouldnt go as far as taking the ride. Get the people who go slower then speed limit ive never hear someone freak out or get road rage for someone going over speed limit. Now the people who go slow yeah they make me mad take their lisence and car. And for all you who dont understand sarcasm you need to learn it. I took most of what Cooter said in his last post as sarcasm. Drug Lords and Drug Dealers is what this country needs to worry about not some guy in a crappy ford doing a burn out.
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69finder

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