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Mustang Owner Arrested mid-burnout

Started by Drache, March 20, 2012, 07:51:44 AM

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Dumb, Cops were pretty ballsy going into that crowd by themselves I just saw two officers, the crowd could have easily turned on them and went bad, bad quick I would think you would want more officers to defuse that situation instead of two officers jumping into that situation.
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Quote from: Indygenerallee on March 20, 2012, 10:34:12 AM
Dumb, Cops were pretty ballsy going into that crowd by themselves I just saw two officers, the crowd could have easily turned on them and went bad, bad quick I would think you would want more officers to defuse that situation instead of two officers jumping into that situation.

And jumping in mid burnout to ARREST the driver?  :shruggy:
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I wonder if they asked him if he knew why he was being arested?

Did they impound the car or write him a citation and send him on his way?

I have never of heard of anyone being taken to jail for a burn out, but with the size of that croud .....

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Quote from: ChgrSteve67 on March 20, 2012, 10:58:24 AM
I wonder if they asked him if he knew why he was being arested?

Did they impound the car or write him a citation and send him on his way?

I have never of heard of anyone being taken to jail for a burn out, but with the size of that croud .....

Well you can clearly see him being placed in handcuffs which is really weird.
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Rolling_Thunder

Yep - i doubt the crowd would do anything beyond the "strong talk" - most crowds don't.  Plus the cops have some things like...   tasers, firearms, etc...     
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Cooter

WTF is it with these idiotic kids these days and burnouts?
"Oh wait I wuz gonna ask to run ya', but since you just did a burnout, I think I'll pass"..Dumbass kids. Cops should have taken the kids car and sold it at public auction. Punks.
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Mike DC

QuoteCops should have taken the kids car and sold it at public auction. Punks.

Umm  .  .  .  do we really wanna be in favor of the cops doing that to anyone?  

IMHO that kind of seizure & auctioning shouldn't be happening to anyone regardless of the circumstances.  I don't care if it was used for drug deliveries or a murder spree, I just think the principle is wrong.  Owning the car was not one of the perp's crimes.   


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Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on March 25, 2012, 08:51:09 PM
QuoteCops should have taken the kids car and sold it at public auction. Punks.

Umm  .  .  .  do we really wanna be in favor of the cops doing that to anyone?  

IMHO that kind of seizure & auctioning shouldn't be happening to anyone regardless of the circumstances.  I don't care if it was used for drug deliveries or a murder spree, I just think the principle is wrong.  Owning the car was not one of the perp's crimes.   



You are correct, sir. However this sort of thing goes on all the time in both criminal and civil contexts, and its abuses are among the biggest unheralded scandals in the our country. http://www.ij.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3114&Itemid=165

cavemanno1

Come on impound his car,for what a burnout?Others were doing burnouts but no as big as this guy!Give him a ticket maybe but arrest him?What's next,music is too loud the hair is too long? :shruggy:
However it could have turned out real bad if he couldn't control his car and run over a few people but everybody does burnouts in an inappropriate place at some point of their life!Why need of the handcuffs and why they left his car in the middle of the way so no more cars passing by the?Just screwed up everyone' evening!

Ghoste

And of course the problem with property seizure laws for this kind of thing is, why stop there?  If we are going to seize cars from drug dealers then why shouldn't we take them from punks endangering public safety with burnouts?  And if those guys are bad, lets take cars from anyone caught speeding.  Since we are cleaning up the roads, how about seizing the car of anyone flicking a cigarette outside the window?  I know it isn't against the law but maybe it should be, it is a distraction for anyone behind them at night.  Hey lets start impounding cars that are illegally parked too...
The list can get pretty long and don't ever for a second think we don't have people pushing legislators to do those things right now. get enough of them together as registered voters and it happens.

Cooter

It's a simple concept..Been round in Va. since I began driving...You get caught doing something illeagal like street racing, doing burnouts, excessive speeding(Over 100 MPH), etc. you to jail, you lose your ride, and it goes to public auction...Been that way since I can remember. If that kid was that ballsy, then he deserves to lose his ride. I stand behind what I said. Somebody's gotta teach these punks a lesson they won't be chanting "F*ck the police". It's called RESPECT. I think it's clear these punks don't have any. Cop WARNED him to stop and he didn't..
Lose the ride if you can't see when a cop is trying to be cool.
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cavemanno1

Over here you can't see too many american cars so when the cops stoped my friend,who had a junk '68 olds that was falling apart,they asked for a burnout otherwise impound the car because it was so dangerous to drive!My friend just bought it and was on is way home when they stoped him!He did a huge burnout and they gave his papers back and let him go!After 5 minutes an other pair of cops stoped him an asked for a burnout from him!They loved it so much they never ever stoped him again!
Cops sometimes can be cool unless you do soemthing really dangerous!I don't think that guy was a Danger to the public!

Rolling_Thunder

Hell I got stopped at a sobriety checkpoint about 2 blocks form my house one night and the Officers told me to do a burnout (guess they were bored at 1am)    :scratchchin:
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Mike DC

QuoteIt's a simple concept..Been round in Va. since I began driving...You get caught doing something illeagal like street racing, doing burnouts, excessive speeding(Over 100 MPH), etc. you to jail, you lose your ride, and it goes to public auction...Been that way since I can remember. If that kid was that ballsy, then he deserves to lose his ride. I stand behind what I said. Somebody's gotta teach these punks a lesson they won't be chanting "F*ck the police". It's called RESPECT. I think it's clear these punks don't have any. Cop WARNED him to stop and he didn't..
Lose the ride if you can't see when a cop is trying to be cool.

Crimes are illegal but not viewpoints and respect levels.  And cops aren't everyone's parents.

The only crime the kid committed was burning the tires so that is the only thing he should be punished for.  If the kid didn't obey the cop's words then the cop could rightfully attempt to arrest him.  If the kid didn't obey the cop's orders and submit to the arrest, then they should charge him with resisting arrest.  But no part of the story justifes the authorities taking one cent of his property IMHO. 


As a practical matter, confiscation isn't so funny when it happens to you.  Or when it happens to your kid and he loses your car for something that he didn't even do.  Not to turn this into a police-bashing session, but I have personally been given legal punishments for things that the cop blatantly made up.  It can, and does, happen.  The power of property confiscation is nothing to toss around lightly.


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Quote from: Cooter on March 26, 2012, 06:32:14 AM
It's a simple concept..Been round in Va. since I began driving...You get caught doing something illeagal like street racing, doing burnouts, excessive speeding(Over 100 MPH), etc. you to jail, you lose your ride, and it goes to public auction...Been that way since I can remember. If that kid was that ballsy, then he deserves to lose his ride. I stand behind what I said. Somebody's gotta teach these punks a lesson they won't be chanting "F*ck the police". It's called RESPECT. I think it's clear these punks don't have any. Cop WARNED him to stop and he didn't..
Lose the ride if you can't see when a cop is trying to be cool.

Then what should they do with someone that F*ck's up somebody elses car?

Quote from: Cooter on March 20, 2012, 11:18:12 AM
Well, I can only give you my personal opinion and experience with your question...Maybe this will help with understanding, maybe it won't, but sometimes, it's your only choice when people screw with you when you can't screw with them back. Especially, if they look at you and your gripe like it's "Nothing/Unimportant/easily dismissed", etc.

Had a female try that old "Get the white guy I don't like fired by using the race card" Bullsh*t. I knew she didn't like me and I her, but to get someone fired for it is being a POS IMO. So, with no further recourse after being "Escorted" to the door, I simply took out my frustrations on her ride at about 3:00 AM...

I heard she had to park that turd as it never ran again...

Don't try to act holier than the pope.

bill440rt

Doing burnouts with that many people standing that close by is just plain stupid.  :shortbus:

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Just too many bystanders so close. If he hooks up just a little as he backs out of it, things could go really bad really fast. :rotz:
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Rolling_Thunder

this is where you find out the kid had a warrant for murder or something and the cops for reports he would be there so they arrested him there   :shruggy:
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Cooter

Quote from: Lennard on March 26, 2012, 05:43:02 PM



Then what should they do with someone that F*ck's up somebody elses car?




Don't try to act holier than the pope.
"Holier than the pope?" WTF are you talking about?  The chick f*cked with me, she got her sh*t fu*cked up end of story.

In the first place, if the idiot kid woulda had some respect for the law, then he shouldn't end up f*cking up someone else's car now should he? Bottom line is you f*ck up someone else's car while acting like an idiot, then it's a cival matter for the courts to decide.
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Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on March 26, 2012, 03:59:13 PM


Crimes are illegal but not viewpoints and respect levels.  And cops aren't everyone's parents.

The only crime the kid committed was burning the tires so that is the only thing he should be punished for.  If the kid didn't obey the cop's words then the cop could rightfully attempt to arrest him.  If the kid didn't obey the cop's orders and submit to the arrest, then they should charge him with resisting arrest.  But no part of the story justifes the authorities taking one cent of his property IMHO. 


As a practical matter, confiscation isn't so funny when it happens to you.  Or when it happens to your kid and he loses your car for something that he didn't even do.  Not to turn this into a police-bashing session, but I have personally been given legal punishments for things that the cop blatantly made up.  It can, and does, happen.  The power of property confiscation is nothing to toss around lightly.


I HAVE had vehicles seized Mike. Learned an imprtant lesson too. I learned not even your kin folk can get it back for you...Wanna know what? Stopped the street racing after that too.
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Well I guess that's your rightful opinion. 

IMHO it falls under "cruel & unusual" stuff.  If they wanna fine you $30,000 then they should fine you $30,000 - not decide to take a specific piece of $30,000 property from you instead of issuing any monetary fine.  Keeping it in dollars and cents keeps the authorities from making anything too personal.  And it keeps everything honest & clear about how much the authorities are really taking from people.  IMHO the USA was founded on these kinds of principles.   


myk

Quote from: Cooter on March 27, 2012, 07:00:22 AM

I HAVE had vehicles seized Mike. Learned an imprtant lesson too. I learned not even your kin folk can get it back for you...Wanna know what? Stopped the street racing after that too.
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Gotta say that's what worked in California too, and back in the day a race could go down anywhere, anytime, whether it was safe or not.  I'm glad the street racing is pretty much dead, but I will also say that I'm not crazy about the idea of confiscation either.  I guess the only true course of action is for people to grow the hell up so we don't have to worry about street racing or government infringement...

AKcharger

I like how well behaved the on lookers are...very respectful bunch!  :2thumbs: