DOH - series versus movie question

[aussiemuscle]

One of the funniest aspects of the series was the "Laurel and Hardy" type of interaction of Boss and Rosco.

I liked the 'new' roscoe at the start of the movie as a darker, more serious character. unfortunately, he kinda lost that and defaulted back to the dimwit after the middle of the movie.
As to the OP, i've never noticed any difference between the fans. they're all redneck. 

[Fred]

I was a original DOH show fan when I was a kid but the movie was just a slap in the face if you ask me, They made Cooter look like a complete assbackwards dumb hilljack, Only thing that made the movie watchable was the General Lee.

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[GL#10]

 I didn't go to see the 2005 movie and expect to see the tv series ,  W.B worked out aiming it at a younger audience rather than the original audience was going to make the money at the box office , 2005 movie was fun and different , stunts where great  ,and it made the whole Dukes Of Hazzard Hobby as big as it will ever be  !.

The 2007 movie was more like the Tv series  , they put a sheriff car in a pond , farm and back road's no big city's it was enjoyable  to watch .

Either way you want to look at it , it brought the charger back into the limelight the world over .

  If you look at any tv show remake to big screen movie , none of the ones done so far have been true to the  original tv shows and they have all been unsuccessful .

[BrianShaughnessy]

I thought the movie was enjoyable, so it wasn't quite true to the tv show - but did it really matter anyway?  NO.   It's just a TV show and a movie....  Neither were loved by critics.  I watched the show in my youth and I went to the theater to see the movie and I bought a dvd.   

I do believe the DOH movie helped bring some new blood into the Charger camp and probably helped a few flippers make some $$$$.

Some of the tv show / movie remakes really ...  suck.    DOH not so much.   And it was NOT unsuccessful.   It made $ ... which was the whole point of making it.  It didn't make Titanic / Avatar $,  but it did better than a lot of award winning snoozefest movies.

Box office

The film was #1 at the box office its opening weekend and grossed $30.7 million on 3,785 screens. It also had an adjusted-dollar rank of #14 all-time for August releases.[4]

The film eventually collected $110.5 million worldwide, although it was much less successful financially outside the U.S.

[bill440rt]

I enjoyed the movie for what it was: a parody.

[SRT-440]

You know...I'm ok with the "The American Pie of Hazzard"..it is what it is...but...I guess in 10 yrs or so somebody will remake the original Fast and Furious and the ricer movement will start all over again. 

[Ghoste]

So from this it is fairly easy to say there is a sharp division?  There may or may not be some new fans to the hobby because of the movie but even though Charger lovers got into the hobby because of the car, old time DOH fans still pretty much all pan the movie?

[Brock Lee]

There is a sharp division within the Dukes hobby even with just the TV show fans. There are many different types, but you can boil them down to 2 camps. One camp liked the show for what it was, and enjoyed seeing the car and Daisy. Today, which has aged better? So you stick with the car. The other camp tends to be very conservative. They wish the real world was as simple, clean cut and ultimately predictable as the Dukes fantasy. So they hang out with like minded people and raise their families based on the values "taught" by Uncle Jesse. Sounds nutty? Go read any Dukes forum and you will see what I mean in short time.  

[Ghoste]

Interesting, I never even really thought about that.  I was just analyzing it from a car guy perspective.

I'll bet the old values fans REALLLLLLLLY hate the movie huh?

[Brock Lee]

That would be an understatement 

[Mike DC]

IMHO it's impossible to make a single perfect DOH movie.  
The show appeals to too broad an audience for too many different reasons.


Some people like Mopars and muscelcars.

Others like Hollywood stunt/action shows from the 1980s.

Some like the G-rated fantasy we saw in the Cali episodes.

Some like the PG-13ish fantasy in the Georgia episodes.  Some even wish it would have gone even farther in that direction, like "Moonrunners".

Some like the PG-13 tone but they are laughing at the characters more than with them, like the 2005 movie.

[c00nhunterjoe]

I enjoyed all aspects of the series AND the movie. I am an avid fan of both. Whether its the stuntman driving the cars in the series, to daisy duke's sex appeal, or uncle jesse's values..... I thoroughly enjoyed both and continue to do so.

[elanmars]

maybe it's 'cause I'm younger but jessie being a pothead doesn't make him less in my eyes or some sort of delinquent (yes I'm aware of the laws but i find them utterly stupid and I don't even care for pot!). I see people doing worse with alcohol every day.

as for the movie, it was dumb and a waste of Chargers IMO. I don't know what really can be expected out of a DOH movie anyway, I liked the show as a kid but even then I knew it was really stupid...trying to re-watch it as an adult, damn...I could really only stomach the driving scenes and seeing the cars in the background.

that stupid show has blown up the prices for 68-70 Chargers and it's annoying when I'm currently Charger-less and I see so many painted orange with the 01 and rebel flag on top, over priced as all hell...

[Kern Dog]

Putting labels on people regarding THIS movie??? Really?
If you look at the movie as something akin to a "cousin" of the TV show, it is easier for me to enjoy. It did have SOME of the family spirit that the series had. Hard to live up to the TV show though. I didn't see the family theme when i was a kid. Heck, i didn't give a crap about daisy then either. The CAR was the star. When TNN started the next run, sometime in '95 or '96, I looked at the show differently. I saw the show from an adult perspective. The family theme became clear then.

[Mike DC]

              
IMHO the price of 2nd-gen Chargers isn't dramatically affected by GL replicas.  It drives up the demand for low-option 318 '69 project cars but not for the whole 2nd-gen group.  A nicely restored 1970 R/T isn't gonna be affected at all.

Yes there are always a lot of GLs for sale.  But IMHO that works to overstate their presence in the hobby.  Its just something a lot of shady flippers are doing to try to sell raggedy cars.  If those cars weren't overpriced raggedy GLs then they would just be overpriced & raggedy in other colors. 



The prices of '68 and '69 Chargers in the big picture isn't out of line with other Mopars, relative to their desirability and production numbers.  Yes they cost more than Coronets or Satellites, because most people prefer the looks of the Chargers and their production numbers are lower than Coronets & Satellites.   

[Neal_J]

The series was good fun, like a live action cartoon.  The 2005 movie was nothing short of awful.  Haven't seen the 2007 movie.

[Bobs69]

DOH fans, is there a division between fans of the movie and fans of the series?  I ask because the movie was clearly aimed at a youngier audience with its edgier humor, nudity, Uncle Jesse as a stoner and so forth.  Or do fans of one seem to bleed across into the other?

I'm much more a fan of the original series than the new movies. The only reason I watched the movie was for the car.

I had heard that the original cost of the series were offered cameos in the movie and they all turned it down due to not liking how the movie went with regards to the characters. Whereas with Starsky & Hutch, Paul Michael Glaser and David Soul both agreed to their cameos.

That sounds familiar.  I heard that about Ben Jones.   Shows integrity doesn't it.

[GL#10]

I have noticed over the past few years on the DOH forums people's attitude/opinions  had changed over the 2005 movie , the ones that liked it , now pan it , to each his own , i grew up on the series , like the movie's , have an original tv series stunt GL and two Movie stunt General lee's , best of both world's , i really doubt you will see the Dukes as big as it was, with the hype etc as it was on the lead up to the movie's release in 2005  !.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edfy8jwBEIA

As for the DOH driving up prices of charger's in General , ha  really don't see it .

K.c

[SRT-440]

I was just watching the DOH episode "Bad Day in Hazzard"...and I could be wrong, but I think one of the bad guys is the dude that plays Roscoe in the 2005 movie...he's younger and much skinnier but I think its him. 

[GL#10]

"I was just watching the DOH episode "Bad Day in Hazzard"...and I could be wrong, but I think one of the bad guys is the dude that plays Roscoe in the 2005 movie...he's younger and much skinnier but I think its him."

Yes you are correct  M.C Gainey  was in that episode and the 2005 movie ,  the actual plot for the 2005 movie was also from a episode of the t.v.series , Farewell, Hazzard (11 Mar. 1983)

K.c

[Sabre]

As with ANY remake of a classic TV Series into a movie, it sucked.

The original had FAMILY values. Today's "kids" this thing was aimed at only showed the entire world just how far our values have slipped when Uncle Jessie who stood for good, decent, wholesome, and most of all, raising the boys the right way, got sh*t on for a stoner.


Gimme all the cheezy story lines of the original series. Just like the new Charger, there's a reason the new one has 4 doors.

+1

[myk]

I'd say it did influence some new blood to a point but not much.  
These cars are unobtainable for most teens or 20 year olds.  When I was a teen these cars were cheap.   $1,000 to $1,500 got you a nice driving Charger back in the 80's.

And the 90's also.  I picked mine up for $2000 right out of high school in '94.  Back then, no one gave a lick about these cars.

As for family values?  I personally never looked at the show as being a strong example of family values, or values of any kind, because even as a snot-nosed kid watching the t.v. series I knew that the Duke family were criminals and it never sat right with my Catholic upbringing.  Ultimately the cars were the focal point of the show for me...

[Cooter]

General Lees have nothing to do with the price of Chargers...They have EVERYTHING to do with the popularity in the eyes of the "Charger ignorant", because it allows them to know what kind of car it realy was. I stuck mine up on Lebay RIGHT after the "travesty" movie and got both my feelings hurt..Car didn't break $10K back in '05...You can't buy one now in rusty, but runable condition for that.

Besides, a Charger will always be worth more than a Cornoet/Satellite as there were NO Four drs, Converts, Wagons, etc. Charger sheetmetal is all by itself and rightfully so..

[Brock Lee]

As for family values?  I personally never looked at the show as being a strong example of family values, or values of any kind, because even as a snot-nosed kid watching the t.v. series I knew that the Duke family were criminals and it never sat right with my Catholic upbringing. 

Yes, they indeed were criminals.

However, there is a group that will say: "But the Duke boys were only on probation for hauling shine. Moonshine was a family tradition way before there was a USofA government to tell them they couldn't. If Uncle Jessie says it was okay, then it is gospel. Even if some writer was snorting lines of coke off a hookers ass while writing that dialog."

[Kern Dog]

Thats a terrible way to act, Brock. The tradition of moonshine DOES go back before any laws regarding it.
Dukes as criminals? What crimes were commited? Rape, Robbery? Murder? Hate crimes?  MYk, take a clue since you obviously had blinders on ....The show emphasized taking care of your family and showing respect to your elders. The Dukes considered strangers to be "People that they hadn't met yet."  They fought INjustice when they saw it.