DOH - series versus movie question

[Ghoste]

DOH fans, is there a division between fans of the movie and fans of the series?  I ask because the movie was clearly aimed at a youngier audience with its edgier humor, nudity, Uncle Jesse as a stoner and so forth.  Or do fans of one seem to bleed across into the other?

[Drache]

DOH fans, is there a division between fans of the movie and fans of the series?  I ask because the movie was clearly aimed at a youngier audience with its edgier humor, nudity, Uncle Jesse as a stoner and so forth.  Or do fans of one seem to bleed across into the other?

I'm much more a fan of the original series than the new movies. The only reason I watched the movie was for the car.

I had heard that the original cost of the series were offered cameos in the movie and they all turned it down due to not liking how the movie went with regards to the characters. Whereas with Starsky & Hutch, Paul Michael Glaser and David Soul both agreed to their cameos.

[Ghoste]

Me personally  I guess they are both about the same.  It is just the car that interests me.

[Kern Dog]

I went to see the movie because of the car and the DRIVING !! I wasn't disappointed in either. Rhys Millen was the guy that hung that car sideways in ways that the TV guys couldn't. I was on the edge of my seat during each chase scene.
NOW about the rest of the movie......
Typical Dukes plot, which was fine with me. Nobody watches this stuff for CSI tech or Shakespear acting. I enjoyed that part of the movie as well.
The movie took a few departures from the series that I didn't agree with. I didn't like Burt Reynolds as Boss Hogg. That man had the personality of a tree. Too stiff, too slow and totally opposite of the Sorrel Booke version. One of the funniest aspects of the series was the "Laurel and Hardy" type of interaction of Boss and Rosco. The movie shifted away from that. Maybe the director purposely shied away from the original to avoid a direct comparison? The casting of Johhny Knoxville and Stifler was okay if you never saw the TV show, but once again, compared to the originals, they were second rate. I did NOT like Willie Nelson then or ever, and YES, the portrayal of him as a weed smoking geriatric spit on the clean image of Uncle Jessie. I liked Daisy though. WOW. Have you seen her lately though? Yeah, she IS pregnant, but what the heck? Is she carrying a RUGBY team in there? She was on Jay Leno's show last week and I was disgusted at her girth.
The movie was okay for what it was. If you REALLY want to see a crappy Dukes movie, check out "DOH The Beginning". The acting actually got worse. At least in THAT movie, they returned the Boss and Rosco roles to a more comedic tone.

[Drache]

I went to see the movie because of the car and the DRIVING !! I wasn't disappointed in either. Rhys Millen was the guy that hung that car sideways in ways that the TV guys couldn't. I was on the edge of my seat during each chase scene.
NOW about the rest of the movie......
Typical Dukes plot, which was fine with me. Nobody watches this stuff for CSI tech or Shakespear acting. I enjoyed that part of the movie as well.
The movie took a few departures from the series that I didn't agree with. I didn't like Burt Reynolds as Boss Hogg. That man had the personality of a tree. Too stiff, too slow and totally opposite of the Sorrel Booke version. One of the funniest aspects of the series was the "Laurel and Hardy" type of interaction of Boss and Rosco. The movie shifted away from that. Maybe the director purposely shied away from the original to avoid a direct comparison? The casting of Johhny Knoxville and Stifler was okay if you never saw the TV show, but once again, compared to the originals, they were second rate. I did NOT like Willie Nelson then or ever, and YES, the portrayal of him as a weed smoking geriatric spit on the clean image of Uncle Jessie. I liked Daisy though. WOW. Have you seen her lately though? Yeah, she IS pregnant, but what the heck? Is she carrying a RUGBY team in there? She was on Jay Leno's show last week and I was disgusted at her girth.
The movie was okay for what it was. If you REALLY want to see a crappy Dukes movie, check out "DOH The Beginning". The acting actually got worse. At least in THAT movie, they returned the Boss and Rosco roles to a more comedic tone.

The new movie just seemed a little TOO goofy in points where it shouldn't. It was like they took the comedy between Hogg and Roscoe and instead put it between Bo and Luke. Then add the nudity, sex, swearing, pot smoking, etc I just wasn't a big fan.

[69charger2002]

the movie was too forced with comedy and younger age humor, kind of like american pie.. but the car was still the star, i loved the orignal series because of the car, not necessarily because it was famioly oriented(though i'm glad it was or my parents would have never let me watch it!!). i think for obvious reasons, collectibility wise the series memorabilia will always be worth way more than movie stuff.. but at the end of the day, it's still all about the 69 charger!

[Ghoste]

Do you think it brought any new blood to the hobby?

[kab69440]

I thought The Beginning was better than the first  movie. April Scott was a much better Daisy to boot.

[Mike DC]

I went to see the movie because of the car and the DRIVING !! I wasn't disappointed in either. Rhys Millen was the guy that hung that car sideways in ways that the TV guys couldn't. I was on the edge of my seat during each chase scene.

Rhys is very good but the circumstances are different.  Rhys gets cars built to his specs, scenes built around showing off specifically what he can do, and lots of practice attempts on everything.  

The TV scripts weren't tailored to the strengths of anyone on the set, the drivers were just cogs in a larger machine.  They might get told to jump into an unfamiliar 4400-lb car with a stock chassis & lap belts, and the chassis might already be bent or broken from something previously done to it.   They might get told to do a maneuver in the midst of 3 other cars in those circumstances, and they would be expected to get it right the first 3 or 4 times in a row that they try it with the cameras already rolling.

[69charger2002]

Do you think it brought any new blood to the hobby?

 





maybe a very few. overall i would say no. the original series from 79-85 influenced a TON of young boys who were at a very impressionable age. plus it was a weekly show for 6 years, lots of time for new people to get involved. The new movie(and spinoffs thereafter) were just a gimmick for $$. teenagers viewed it as just another movie, like many of today's movies. i would venture to think fast and the furious has had more of an impression that the new dukes movies did. just my  

[UH60L]

Do you think it brought any new blood to the hobby?

 





maybe a very few. overall i would say no. the original series from 79-85 influenced a TON of young boys who were at a very impressionable age. plus it was a weekly show for 6 years, lots of time for new people to get involved. The new movie(and spinoffs thereafter) were just a gimmick for $$. teenagers viewed it as just another movie, like many of today's movies. i would venture to think fast and the furious has had more of an impression that the new dukes movies did. just my  

I agree.  Unfortunately most of what it brought them into was the "tuner car" aspect, which I dislike.  Not liking what Fast Five did to the '70 charger at the end of the last one, but at least they had a new challenger at the end.......

I just wish the "fast" series had gone all mopar on the '70 chargers used, instead of chevy engines and such.

[Ghoste]

Worse than them getting into tuner cars I find a lot of young kids thinking the action sequences in F&F are a perfectly realistic way to drive.

[skip68]

I'd say it did influence some new blood to a point but not much.   
These cars are unobtainable for most teens or 20 year olds.  When I was a teen these cars were cheap.   $1,000 to $1,500 got you a nice driving Charger back in the 80's.

[UH60L]

Strangely enough, where I live most of them don't actually "get into" tuner cars per se, they just throw a can on their exhaust pipe, bolt a wing on their car, and many of them still can't maintain 55 mph for long perios of time.

I actually had 3 youngsters in a car like that act all tough and say they wanted to race my '69.  I got done filling up at the gas station first, and when I started my car, they all kinda looked away, then when I pulled out and left a cloud of rubber smoke, I could see them staring in disbelief in my mirror.....and that was with the 440 that was in the car when I bought it that had a tick in it the whle 4 years I drove it, and leaked a bit of oil.

Between cars/people like those I just mentioned and the fact that even the ones that really are fast just all look ugly to me, I'm just not impressed by the tuner cars.

I mean, a guy in my car club has an AMC Pacer with a dodge 383 in it, and it's screaming fast..faster than my charger will ever be again...but it's still Pacer....ya know?

[skip68]

Like I always say, it doesn't matter how fast it is, you've still got to be seen driving it. 
That's all that most people see with these ricer cars anyway.  Some dude on the road or pulling into a gas station/parking lot with a coffee can exhaust and wing.   

[Brock Lee]

I don't think it brought in much new blood, but it was the third, and likely last, renaissance of the Dukes of Hazzard. The first one occurred when the show was brought back to TNN, second with the first reunion movie.  That was too soon for some as many original fans were still in college or getting their lives on track. The movie came at a much better time now that many of these people had families and free time to spend on a hobby. It is no coincidence the largest attendance Dukesfest happened after the movie. The majority of those that got back into it moved on by 2008.

[knitz01]

i like both... i like boobies too!!!! lol

[jb666]

I personally thought most of the 2005 movie was a joke... I liked a few of the driving scenes (the rotary chase being my favorite)... "What's the purpose of this thing anyways!".

I'm not a Johnny Knoxville fan... Nor was I a fan of that ditzy moron Jessica Simpson playing Daisy... Or Uncle Jesse being a bonehead... Roscoe being a hardass.. Boss Hogg being thin.... And the list goes on..

To me, that movie did the series no justice, and we all know the acting in the series was atrocious.  

[Mike DC]

                                        
The 2005 movie could have re-launched the franchise but they handled it wrong.  They marketed it to the PG-13 audience instead of the PG one, which any idiot that did 5 minutes of market research on DOH would have told them was a mistake.  The fact that the movie wasn't very good sealed it.

The merchandise companies have decided to revert to putting the original TV show cast on the packaging of DOH toys, a full 30 years after the show's prime.  That pretty much says it all. 

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I think F&F has done as much for the old car hobby as anything from Hollywood since the 1980s.  The kids do nothing but throw fart cans on their car and can barely drive, just like most kids did nothing but throw glasspacks on their 318 Coronets and barely drive after watching DOH or "Bandit" back in the day.  

Fact is, F&F is no cheesier than any of the car franchises of the past.  And the more recent movies with the original cast have been darn good pieces of work.  You can't combine that kind of ten-tenths action + 100% great drama + 100% realism all at once.  Some compromises have to be made.  IMHO the director Justin Lin has been doing some very good jobs on those flicks lately.  

The drag race between the '32 and the '55 in "American Graffiti", the '55 vs the GTO in "Two Lane Blacktop . . . IMHO the Supra vs the Charger at the end of F&F#1 is the next big pairing in that iconic line of new vs old.  

[Cooter]

As with ANY remake of a classic TV Series into a movie, it sucked.

The original had FAMILY values. Today's "kids" this thing was aimed at only showed the entire world just how far our values have slipped when Uncle Jessie who stood for good, decent, wholesome, and most of all, raising the boys the right way, got sh*t on for a stoner.


Gimme all the cheezy story lines of the original series. Just like the new Charger, there's a reason the new one has 4 doors.

[General_01]

I watched it for the driving scenes, but I did not like the "reinterpretation" of most of the characters. I understand not wanting to do a carbon copy of the series to avoid direct comparisons, but totally changing a characters core personality and values was just ludicrous. In my opinion, they could have made the same movie with the two main characters driving a blue '69 charger and named Tim and Joe and every other character renamed and I probably would have liked it better. I think the biggest reason I dislike the movie is because the were basically pissing on the serie's grave while using the name to bring in more $. Kinda like the execs at Dodge with the new Charger.

Same reason I don't like the "Starsky and Hutch" movie.

[c00nhunterjoe]

I enjoyed the series for what it was and enjoyed the movie for what it was.

You can't expect to make a tv series directly into a movie and have it work. I think the movie did a good job paying homage to the series yet went in its own direction to be different.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

As with ANY remake of a classic TV Series into a movie, it sucked.

The original had FAMILY values. Today's "kids" this thing was aimed at only showed the entire world just hopw far our values have slipped when Uncle Jessie who stood for good, decent, wholesome, and most of all, raising the boys the right way, got sh*t on for a stoner.


Gimme all the cheezy story lines of the original series. Just like the new Charger, there's a reason the new one has 4 doors.

[Indygenerallee]

I was a original DOH show fan when I was a kid but the movie was just a slap in the face if you ask me, They made Cooter look like a complete assbackwards dumb hilljack, Only thing that made the movie watchable was the General Lee.

[Gregory]

Original TV show. The only thing Dukes about the movie was the car and Daisy's shorts. Every thing else was Hogg wash (Sorry, some one had to). The movie would be alright if you never saw the show, but for me I just couldn't get there.