Official Challenger Concept Car Survey on Dodge.Com...

[xs29j8Bullitt]

It appears the Challenger Concept Survey is legitimate, and is now linked through the Dodge.Com website.  This is a longer version of the ChallengerTalk.Com poll...

For years I have heard many complain how they wanted DCX to listen to want they want in a new musclecar... now is your chance to be heard on at least the drivetrain aspect of it.

Here is the link, no registration required:

http://www.dodge.com/challenger_survey

GO VOTE NOW... or never    again about not being heard!

I would appreciate a Mod making this thread a "sticky" to get as much input as possible for Dodge on the Challenger Concept car drivetrain options.

XS

[Blown70]

DID SO, thanks

TOM

[WM23N1]

Done.

[THE COLONEL]

sent mine in.

[dd44068]

I also voted

[72chargerSE]

Voted.... manual trans, baby!

[RD]

done here!

[hemigeno]

I voted too!

[Highbanked Hauler]

 What he said

[2muchrust]

Done

[Charger Aficionado]

I'm in.

[Johnny SixPack]

Done and done!

Thanks for the heads up and the link, Allen!

[Dave22443]

Done!  Thanks for the heads up!

[2fast4u]

   I usually hate surveys but that one was well worth my time......   However they could have been a little more indepth.  seemed to shallow of a survey.  It's like they don't really want to know what we think!

oh well! 

2fast

[hemihead]

I'm there! 

[genlee1970]

Done!!! That was quick and painless.

[Silver R/T]

done

[Daytona R/T SE]

Did it 

[Charger1970]

Thanks for the heads up. I got my vote in, too. 

[TheGhost]

Done.  And, although I would most likely buy an auto if i bought one, I voted for a manual, and as added reenforcement, said that I would NOT buy one without a manual.

[694spdRT]

Done.

I voted no unless a 6 speed manual is offered also even though I may settle for and auto even if they don't. It really should be made as an available option though IMO.

[The Ghoul]

-425hp v8 option with 6 speed
-no would not buy one if it didnt come manual
and if you answer any other way you are a commie... not to sway you or nudded.

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Done.

I voted no unless a 6 speed manual is offered also even though I may settle for and auto even if they don't. It really should be made as an available option though IMO.

I think that is what a lot of survey participants are doing, I find it hard to believe more than 15-20% would actually not buy the Challenger if it was only offered with an automatic.  For a daily driver I would probably pick the automatic myself... I guess that makes me a "commie" according to cudaeh.    For a weekend only driver, I would probably go with the 6 speed manual tho...

I don't know how the voting is going on the Dodge.Com survey, but here is the latest results from the similar poll on the ChallengerTalk.Com forum...

XS

[BB1]

425 hp 6 speed for me guess. Wonder what the insurance rates would be.   

40 year old male no accidents or tickets.... ever. 

[Charger_Fan]

I don't know how the voting is going on the Dodge.Com survey, but here is the latest results from the similar poll on the ChallengerTalk.Com forum...

I can't believe there's that many votes for "no, I wouldn't buy a Chally".

Currently, I'm getting the dreaded "The page cannot be displayed" screen. I'll try again later.

[4402tuff4u]

I send them my address for delivery of the new Challenger and told them the check is in the mail.





Gave them a thumbs up and compliment on listening to the Mopar crowd.

[Lowprofile]

426 W/a 6 speed is the only way to go.  I'm in! 

[Silver R/T]

wonder if they actually gonna listen to consumer this time

[TheGhost]

wonder if they actually gonna listen to consumer this time

What do you mean, this time?  Just because they didn't listen to US with the Charger, doesn't mean they didn't listen to the consumer.

[Charger_Fan]

Cool, I got in that time.
Yes, I would still buy a Chally if there were no stick shifts available...but I'd prefer stick.

[Ghoste]

I voted but I'd guess that since most of the questions are about automatic trans you can pretty much count on which way they expect to go.

[BLACKWOLF]

done, i will spend my inheritance to get one.

[genlee1970]

425 hp 6 speed for me guess. Wonder what the insurance rates would be.   

40 year old male no accidents or tickets.... ever. 

They'd still bend you over dude. I'm around your age and my record is as clean as yours. Two years ago I had a 94 Lexus Sport Coupe with the V8 and auto and they were spanking me 12 bills a year for insurance!! Im figuring if the 6.1 Challenger costs 35k like some reports say, the note will be around 6 bills a month plus at least another buck a month for insurance, maybe more!!! Damn near as much as my mortgage. You could always call your agent and ask for a quote to insure a new GT Mustang to give you some idea. I'd say call for a quote on a Charger, but automatic four doors are cheaper to insure!!

[The Ghoul]

Done.

I voted no unless a 6 speed manual is offered also even though I may settle for and auto even if they don't. It really should be made as an available option though IMO.

I think that is what a lot of survey participants are doing, I find it hard to believe more than 15-20% would actually not buy the Challenger if it was only offered with an automatic.  For a daily driver I would probably pick the automatic myself... I guess that makes me a "commie" according to cudaeh.    For a weekend only driver, I would probably go with the 6 speed manual tho...

I don't know how the voting is going on the Dodge.Com survey, but here is the latest results from the similar poll on the ChallengerTalk.Com forum...

XS

pinco prick!
just kiddin.
the fact that they even asked that question means that they actiually thought about saving the extra cash by not offering a stick.
so for all the people that want it to be offered in a manual but answer that they would buy it if they didnt offer one is pritty much the same thing as saying that you dont care if they offer it in a stick.
Ive been driving nothing but manuals in the worst traffic you can think of and I could never see my self driving any thing but. Automatics are just so passive they are boaring to drive

[xs29j8Bullitt]

author=cudaeh link=topic=8989.msg108256#msg108256 date=1138418458]
pinco prick!
just kiddin.
the fact that they even asked that question means that they actiually thought about saving the extra cash by not offering a stick.
so for all the people that want it to be offered in a manual but answer that they would buy it if they didnt offer one is pritty much the same thing as saying that you dont care if they offer it in a stick.
Ive been driving nothing but manuals in the worst traffic you can think of and I could never see my self driving any thing but. Automatics are just so passive they are boaring to drive

The quote below is from another forum, but I have seen similar ones on most forums.  Also, I have read a lot of posts where people said they voted for "6 Speed Manual OR I won't buy it" even though they said they would actually buy the car with an automatic... a few even said they prefered an automatic, but answered the survey differently because "DCX needed to offer the 6 Speed Manual".

No manual....no buy...I wont trade or sell my Mach unless I get exactly what I want....I can say that DCX stopped my plans to buy a Shelby for at least a couple years. I can live with what I have till I know where the Challenger is headed and if it has the "real " 426 will it be like the crates being sold now...piston rings optional ?

As long as that is the way you really feel, letting them know it in the survey is a good idea...

I am a bit concerned about pretending to only be willing to buy a new Challenger if a 6 Speed Manual transmission is available, even though the survey taker would buy one with an automatic if the 6 Speed was not offered.  I understand that the intent is to "force" DCX to offer the 6 Speed Manual as an option, but it could backfire as well...

I work in the aircraft industry, and many of the projects that I work on require a "business case" to be made for them showing a good "RM" (Return Multiple)... otherwise the project is abandoned, even if it is an excellent concept in all other ways.  Recently, a decision to cancel a project (that I had over 4 months of work put in to develop) was made due to the RM being reduced to the point that the business case fell apart.  A big part of the problem was items/features that other groups in the company wanted added that had little or nothing to do with the original concept... the added tooling and manufacture costs drove the RM down, resulting in the project's cancellation.

Its a free country... answer the survey as you please. I just wanted to point out that there can be un-intended consequences to the best intentioned plans.  In the survey, I simply answered the questions honestly, even the one on age...    Just my   

Below is the latest ChallengerTalk poll results... VOTE if you haven't yet!

XS

[Ghoste]

I would think that a manual trans would very much be an item/feature that is fully in keeping with the actual "concept" of a Challenger.  Your point for a business case is very well made though.  My fear in this instance is that the beancounters who make the decision would look at automatics appealing to a wider audience (everyone can drive an auto), cheaper to manufacture (less complexity at the assembly stage), greater return on the option (the survey indicated the automatic will be a more expensive powertrain choice) and cheaper to warranty (for obvious reasons  ).
To me, that makes the manual choice an uphill battle.

[69bananabeast]

where did you find the survey results?

[xs29j8Bullitt]

where did you find the survey results?

The preliminary results that I have  posted are from a poll on the ChallengerTalk forum, not the results of the official Dodge.Com survey.  It is a similiar market study that DCX contacted the Admin at ChallengerTalk to do, but the Dodge.Com one has more questions.

Here is a link to the ChallengerTalk forums poll section.  To vote in the poll you will need to register at ChallengerTalk, but I believe that you can see the results without registering.  The Dodge.Com poll does not require registration, but I do not have access to the results...

Link to CT poll section: http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3

XS

[The Ghoul]

i like the car and all. the only reasion Im pushing so hard for manual is because I want one and I absolutly refuse to buy one if it is not a manual.
I used to own a 98 firebird formula that I absolutly loved. LS1 T56 manual hard top in a rare green/blue color. Ever sence my friend hit a concreet median on the freeway and wrecked it I have been looking for another one just like it. I have passed on cars that have been identical except for the transmissions and seeing how all the stuff I need to make the swap would run me over $2000 I would not buy it.

now with all that being said I must admit my charger is automatic. I bought it that way 3 years ago, drove it home, and started dissasembling it to start my resto. I will own up to this. My project will most likley get to the point where I have the engine done, the body done, the paint done, and the intirror all done but I wont have the $ or parts to make the manual conversion; I will in that situation put the auto in it untill i have the means to do something about it.
Im predjudis but not crazy.
Moddern cars, Im not leaniant on.

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Here are the latest results from the ChallengerTalk forum Challenger Concept poll that they are running at the request of DCX. This poll is similiar to the official Dodge.Com survey, but only has two questions...

I am not sure we will ever see the results of the Dodge.Com survey published, but they are probably about the same.

If you have not yet taken the survey, it is quick and simple to take... no registration required! Go to the beginning of this thread for a link to the survey...

Thanks to everyone that has already taken the survey!

XS

[BB1]

Ok, which one of you voted for the v6 6-speed.   

[andy74]

Done.  And, although I would most likely buy an auto if i bought one, I voted for a manual, and as added reenforcement, said that I would NOT buy one without a manual.

same here,even though i would probably sell mostly autos, i voted for the stick-its a great idea to have achoice,in a muscle car almosta reqiurement!

[xs29j8Bullitt]

With the ChallengerTalk poll nearing the 500 mark on participants, here are the current results...

XS

BTW, a DCX Marketing Rep posted the survey link today on the new DodgeChallenger.Com forums... here is a link to the thread... please take the time to complete this quick and easy survey if you have not already done so!

DCX Marketing Rep Posting: http://www.dodgechallenger.com/forums/m_745/tm.htm

[bull]

Oh, NOW they want to listen to us? I wonder what happened that caused their ears to suddenly open up? Something with the numbers "06" in front of it maybe? Idiots. I still want to see Creed's head on a charger.

Here's what I wrote when they asked me which classic I own: "1968 Charger 383/4spd (you really screwed up the '06!)"

[Ghoste]

That's funny Bull cuz I wrote, "1967 Charger with only two doors like it's supposed to have".

[Lightning]

on the "classic" question, I answered "no" but I put my LeBaron on there anyway just for a laugh.

[Charger_Fan]

I voted again at DCX, just because.

[wetfeetmi]

Of course they will offer the manual! They must be planning it that way because every option is offered after the base "6 cyl, 6 speed". If they weren't going to use a stick why is it their base car? Wouldn't their base be a 6 cyl automatic?  I voted  and answered that I would still buy it with an automatic anyway. I think 200h.p. is a bargain for $3k additional. You are gauranteed to recoup it when you tire of the car and sell it down the road.

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Here are the latest results from the ChallengerTalk.Com Poll with 525 participants so far...

Have you voted in the official Dodge.Com Challenger Concept survey?

Here is the survey link again: http://www.dodge.com/challenger_survey

XS

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Here is a link about the Challenger and Camaro concept cars and the chances of either being built:

WFAA Article Link: http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-BCConcept_04bus.ART.State.Edition2.22cdd5a8.html

Here quotes from the article:

"It's still in a review process," said Sam Locricchio, a Dodge spokesman. "We're only a month out" from the Detroit show.

"When you go into feasibility, it helps to have done the platform already," Mr. Locricchio said.

The Challenger will visit more major shows , including Chicago and New York. Dodge will monitor those reactions and media reports.

Then, Dodge will determine whether it has the factory capacity to build the Challenger. It also has to decide whether the suppliers that provided these parts can make large numbers of them, and if there will still be a market for a coupe two or three years from now. And maybe most important: Can Dodge make a profit at the level of sales it expects?

"Where the real finessing comes in is after a certain number of shows, after some of the buzz wanes," Mr. Locricchio said. "That's when you have to determine how much buzz still exists. If so, you do a more formal business case."

Cast your vote at www.dodge.com. Mr. Locricchio said you should be able to click on a "contact us" link and send Dodge an e-mail.[/u]

It looks like the future of the Challenger concept car is in the hands of the consumer... If you want DCX to build the car... SPEAK UP NOW... take the Challenger survey... Email DCX... they are clearly and openly asking for input

After years of whining  here is your chance to be heard! Not only are options like the beloved "6 Speed Manual Transmission" at stake, the car's very existance in on the line. If half of the effort put into complaining about the new Charger would be directed to getting the Challenger authorized for production, Mopar enthusiasts would finally get the car they have been waiting for for over 30 years (at least I have waited that long).

 

XS

[Charger Steve]

I voted also but did not answer the personal income question. No ones business but mine.

[Charger_Croatia]

I voted, but I'm not sure that new Challenger will ever be introduced here.

[Ghoste]

Steve, how are they going to figure out how much they can charge you for one if they don't know how much you can afford?

[chargermick]

Done

[oldschool_muscle]

Done...My dad just told my mom that if she wont let him get his truck that he is going to get the Challenger and she was totally down with it. I cant wait till this badass ride comes out.

[MikeD]

Done

I voted for 6 speed

[73dodge]

Got my vote in and in reality I think my vote will pull the most weight if these results are seen  by DCX

MALE 40 - 50 age upper middle income bracket muscle car enthusiasts the market they will probably aim this car for.

And for all you who voted that they would not buy this car without a manual tranny shame on you!!! I would rather them build it with an auto then NOT build it at all. You can always add an after market 6 speed but if you don't have anything to stick it in then what are you going to drive. You can't drive a tranny not attached to a car...............

If they see that people won't buy it if it doesn't have some option which in reality most of the money is going to come from an  offering of a auto tranny than manual. A manual is appealing only to a small segment of the population if they are going to loose a large segment of buyers because of option they then won't build it at all.

The question of whether you would buy this car even if it did not come with a manual tranny should have 100% yes by it.

We are shooting ourselves in the  foot by answering NO to that question.................

[rt green]

ya got my vote!

[Blue Pentastar]

I voted. It will be interesting to see if they read and use any of this info.

[FastbackJon]

I voted before it closed. I actually got the notice in an email from dodge on 28-Jan since I sent them feedback on the Challenger when it came out. I wonder how much they will pay attention to the message board votes if they didn't put the survey out on the message boards.

If they have any sort of user tracking, they know who accessed the poll (by IP address) and even from what site they came from to get to the poll, whether it was from an email, or a messageboard, etc.

PS: I also rubbed in the fact that I have three REAL Chargers (the two door kind).


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Dear Jon:

We would like to thank you for your recent email expressing interest in
the Dodge Challenger concept vehicle.

We are thrilled to read of your interest in the Dodge Challenger
concept
vehicle. As mentioned in our previous email, the Dodge Challenger
vehicle is still in the concept stage. Because of your interest, we
would like to take this opportunity to ask for your participation in
our
Dodge Challenger vehicle survey. To participate please go to
www.dodge.com/challenger_survey and complete the survey.

Thank you for your interest and participation, we appreciate your
feedback. It is consumers like you that help make us better.

Please feel free to email us again via the web at www.dodge.com by
clicking on the contact us link, or give us a call at
1-800-4-A-DODGE.

Privacy
http://www.daimlerchrysler.com/disclaimer/index.html

Sincerely,

Jennifer
Senior Staff Representative
Dodge Information Center

[SeattleCharger]

I don't think anyone had a problem with the 4 door Charger drivetrain.  What's the point of this survey?   How about a vote on if they should build the Challenger the way it looks as the concept car.  Body design/looks etc.

[6670charger]

I just tried and the poll is closed.

[SeattleCharger]

I made a Challenger concept car screen saver, width and heighth to fit screen,

        just right click mouse and click on "set as desktop background" if you didn't know,