Another 68 383 4spd on ebay

[bakerhillpins]

  All the paperwork and everything..  Wow that's a sharp looking 4spd car. UU1 (Light blue) paint to boot. Not to common. Man I love those blue hardtop chargers.  

Will be interesting to see what it goes for.  

Not an ordered car.
a6 - console
b4 - buckets
h7 - hood turn signals
k7 - passenger mirror
m6 - drivers remote mirror
A1 - 26 in rad
H1 - power brakes
N8 - rear defrost
P6 - rear speaker
R0 - AM 8 track?
T7 - tach
X2 - tinted windsheild

A6 - 3.54/3.55 ratio (Dana/8 3/4 axle)
X8 - Sure grip
C6B - Blue on Blue interior (sure looks like a B stamped in there, otherwise its a D and that is White/Green??)
UU1 -Light blue exterior. 

62 - 383 4bbl
3 - 4spd   

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/383-4-Speed-California-Car-41K-Miles-Rust-Free-s-Match-259-Made-Build-Sheet-/110833980052?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19ce385294

[73rallye440magnum]

Think it will fetch the buy it now price? It looks like a clean driver.

[bakerhillpins]

Another car just like this came up on ebay almost exactly a year ago (I recall because I was in FL on business at that time). It was a Texas all original (paint/interior/spare/...) 4bbl 4spd QQ1 original owner with white interior and I believe manual brakes and an AM radio.  I was looking at the time and the owner, deceased's daughter, wanted 35k for it. It bid up to 29k. It was out of my price range and I figured it would get re-listed but it never was so I suspect they sold to the highest bidder.

This car looks like it has been repainted QQ1, and it's missing the Tach in the dash. The Texas car I mentioned they didn't look for the broadcast sheet and left that up in the air.

I don't think it will go for the BIN but ya never can tell. 

[PocketThunder]

Another car just like this came up on ebay almost exactly a year ago (I recall because I was in FL on business at that time). It was a Texas all original (paint/interior/spare/...) 4bbl 4spd QQ1 original owner with white interior and I believe manual brakes and an AM radio.  I was looking at the time and the owner, deceased's daughter, wanted 35k for it. It bid up to 29k. It was out of my price range and I figured it would get re-listed but it never was so I suspect they sold to the highest bidder.

This car looks like it has been repainted QQ1, and it's missing the Tach in the dash. The Texas car I mentioned they didn't look for the broadcast sheet and left that up in the air.

I don't think it will go for the BIN but ya never can tell. 

I think you should sell your car and buy this one...      

[OldGuy]

Looks to be in pretty good shape.  Nice having the 26" radiator - but could have at least hooked up an overflow hose on the radiator.

[bakerhillpins]

I think you should sell your car and buy this one...      

You're not helping...     

[TUFCAT]

Bryan, this is your car!

[73rallye440magnum]

I dunno guys. That 4 speed would get boring. 

[elanmars]

I agree, you could totally sell your black '69 to me so you could get this blue '68...sounds good to me.

[TUFCAT]

I agree, you could totally sell your black '69 to me so you could get this blue '68...sounds good to me.

Uh Oh Bryan!! What to do?.....what to do? 

[bakerhillpins]

I agree, you could totally sell your black '69 to me so you could get this blue '68...sounds good to me.

Uh Oh Bryan!! What to do?.....what to do? 

 

[moparfan53]

Will be interesting to see what it goes for.  

Just for comparison, here is a very nice 69 383 4spd numbers matching car that sold on ebay a few days ago for $36K. It had lots of bidding for a week then sold for the BIN price. The current red with black top is nice but the fender tag says it was originally white with white top and red interior. I don't recall seeing that combo before. I think that would be very striking and probably rare. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=ViewItem&_rdc=1&item=160741802865&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp5197.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D160741802865%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1

[Troy]

It's coded for an 8 track but doesn't appear to have a 3 speaker dash. Tach is missing too.

Definitely not stuff you see every day: 3.55 SG, tachometer, rear defrost, and rear speaker (to go along with the 8 track no less). Wonder if the 3.55 is what prompted the 26" rad? Wouldn't it also have a power steering cooler then? I'm very fuzzy on this.

The passenger mirror is MIA and the horn button is odd.

The interior code looks like "C6D" (white/green) in one picture but "C6C" (white/blue) in another - which is more likely. However, I thought white/blue interior was primarily white which would make the door paint white as well. I'm fuzzy on that though since there are very few cars coded for it (and the last nice one I saw was converted to a GL).

There's no "sold car" designation so this combination just something that popped up in regular production?

The color definitely doesn't look like UU1 light blue. I don't think it looks QQ1 either - although the metallics (blues especially) are very hard to photograph.

Troy

[bakerhillpins]

I wondered about the 3spkr dash too since I thought that it was supposed to be there. 

I don't know about the rad either. If it had AC that would be one thing.

The horn button is wrong (just like the hemi 68 that sold for 90 sumpin K at BJ earlier in the year). The missing mirror and new paint suggest possible door replacement or they broke/lost the pass mirror and didn't bother to find another and just sealed up the hole. Which is sad because it's a rare option IIRC.

Yea, the interior code is difficult to make out, if it was white then the door code should also be white. I have seen this several times. That's why I figured it was a B rather than a C.  Too bad the build sheet is not legible in the pic. Maybe Dan will ask him for a better pic and clear it all up.

Seems like an odd regular production car combo indeed.

[TUFCAT]

Sumthin' seems fishy. Why would the fender tag have rear defrost, rear speaker, AM 8-track, and tach when the car clearly doesn't have any of these things? I can understand a radio swap but that's about it.

You would have to see the buildsheet to verify.  

Like Troy said, the interior code appears to read (C6D - white w/green carpet) but can only be (C6B - blue w/blue carpet).  Maybe the "B" wasn't striking hard that day?  (C6C - white w/blue carpet), (C6B  - blue w/blue carpet), and (C6W - white w/black carpet) were the only three interiors offered with UU1 "light blue met".

[Troy]

Sumthin' seems fishy. Why would the fender tag have rear defrost, rear speaker, AM 8-track, and tach when the car clearly doesn't have any of these things? I can understand a radio swap but that's about it.

You would have to see the buildsheet to verify. 

The car has been "restored" even though it supposedly has 41k miles and, at this point, it barely resembles the tag. It's possible that the car was parted at one point or those parts didn't come with the car when the current owner bought it.

There was a blue one near me a few years ago that was nothing but a mangled shell and tags. The numbers engine and some other parts were in another 68 that the guy had. It disappeared a few months after I first inquired about it but, if someone wanted to put it back on the road they'd have to find a ton of parts. The cost of some of the rare items might prohibit putting them back on the car.

Just speculation of course! Who knows the real story. Being able to read the build sheet would be nice since it will tie the fender tag, body stampings, and VIN together.

Troy

[Dans 68]

...Definitely not stuff you see every day: 3.55 SG, tachometer, rear defrost, and rear speaker (to go along with the 8 track no less). Wonder if the 3.55 is what prompted the 26" rad? Wouldn't it also have a power steering cooler then? I'm very fuzzy on this....

The 3.55 came with the Performance Axle Package (code 358) and included the sure grip, 26" radiator and seven-blade slip-drive fan with shroud (according to my sketchy sources).

...Too bad the build sheet is not legible in the pic. Maybe Dan will ask him for a better pic and clear it all up.....

Oh, all right, I'll ask. 

Dan

[rarefish]

Yeah, the color on the does not look correct to me either. I had a original UU1 68 Dart back in the day and this color is not even close.

[Dans 68]

...Too bad the build sheet is not legible in the pic. Maybe Dan will ask him for a better pic and clear it all up.....

Oh, all right, I'll ask. 

Dan

I did, they declined (and said the build sheet was much too fragile and they did not want to handle it).   

Dan

[bakerhillpins]

I did, they declined (and said the build sheet was much too fragile and they did not want to handle it).   

Dan

Nothing like a seller that wants 35k but will not provide a scan or decent photo of pertinent information. 

[1974dodgecharger]

hahaha....these people and their thining of sitting on a pot of gold and not let anyone see it 

...Too bad the build sheet is not legible in the pic. Maybe Dan will ask him for a better pic and clear it all up.....

Oh, all right, I'll ask. 

Dan

I did, they declined (and said the build sheet was much too fragile and they did not want to handle it).   

Dan

[TUFCAT]

Nothing like a seller that wants 35k but will not provide a scan or decent photo of pertinent information.  

We're already suspicious about the options, colors, and tag info.  Do you suppose that's why they can only provide a fuzzy illegible buildsheet?...

[472 R/T SE]

That's gotta be C6B

[bakerhillpins]

I don't know, The tag doesn't seem bogus to me, or at least it's not incorrect as far as I can tell. I still think that it's a B.  It certainly isn't a C as the left side of the letter is most definitely straight, unlike the C just to the left.

[84shelby]

 Should there be a  reverse light on the dash  on  a 68 four speed ?    I do not see one  .          

[F8-4life]

Kinda curious... any theorys on why they made so little '68 xp 4 speeds? They churned out 3,xxx in 1969 and even 1970 got a few thousand I think (if I remember correctly) So why less then 400 cars in 1968?

[bull]

Should there be a  reverse light on the dash  on  a 68 four speed ?    I do not see one  .          

Not entirely sure right now but I believe it was optional.

[Dans 68]

Should there be a  reverse light on the dash  on  a 68 four speed ?    I do not see one  .        

Not entirely sure right now but I believe it was optional.

Only if it had the Hurst Shifter. With the positive reverse lockout the Inland's didn't need or use them. This July 5th built car should have had the reverse light. Probably left off when it was restored.  

Dan

[73rallye440magnum]

Was the inland shift early model year '68, hurst starting mid-year?

[Dans 68]

That is correct. I believe sometime around late Feb/early March was when the switch took place.

Dan

[73rallye440magnum]

Must have struck a deal? The listing was ended by the seller at $23,500.

[Dans 68]

It appears that the auction ended at its anointed time, with no one meeting the reserve price. Now is when the prospective buyers start talking to the seller...

Dan

[73rallye440magnum]

I thought it had one day left? 

[6bblgt]

Ended 25hr 19min early by seller.

[73rallye440magnum]

Look familiar?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-DODGE-CHARGER-4-SPD-BIG-BLOCK-383-NUMBERS-MATCHING-41465-MILE-BEAUTIFUL-CAR-/180853114873?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a1baf87f9

Sigh... 

[Ghoste]

It either fell through then or they have a ridiculous idea of what it should bring and ended it early last time because they weren't happy with the instant online appraisal they were getting.  Hopefully this time it all goes well.

[bakerhillpins]

Looks to me like the car is just being resold by a dealer now. Original Ebay ad was in WI    and this is out of PA..  Wheeler Dealers maybe? 

[lloyd3]

Neat! The C6B frost blue interior looks right (and it's fun for me to finally see a blue interior console 4-gear).  It may have the reverse light, but it simply isn't shown in that angle of the interior photo (mine sits fairly low on the dash).  The UU-1 exterior doesn't look anything like mine (mind you, my car has been repainted at least twice now).  My version of UU-1 looks more silver and is a much lighter shade of blue.  I used to think that I'd rather have a hardtop, but after looking at black vinyl for so long I guess I'm more used to that now.  The breather connector to the air cleaner is different than mine (paint vrs. chrome) and is shaped slightly differently, but it is a 383 car after all.  From what I've read so far, I'd guess that it is indeed a "flipper" situation, but it seems to be a fairly nice example of the species. Being from Pennsylvania, I can tell you that even the cars that were well cared-for there don't look that good after 44-years (long and very bad winters in a very damp climate, as-well-as the ever present potholes and salt always seemed to take their toll). The claim of it coming from out-of-state makes sense, even with those supposedly-original low miles.

Obviously, I'm interested in how much it finally goes for.

[bakerhillpins]

The UU-1 exterior doesn't look anything like mine

I don't think it was repainted in a proper UU1 hue. Looks more like a QQ1..

The claim of it coming from out-of-state makes sense, even with those supposedly-original low miles.

The Lake Geneva,WI owner in their auction (listed in the initial post) stated it was a CA car.

This car is from California  ( I still have CA title )   

Last spring (almost exactly a year ago) a completely original (yes survivor) 68 383 4spd QQ1 white interior console car.. basically same options - the auction ended at 29k. It will be interesting to see if they can flip it for more as the first auction was pulled at 24k so we don't know the sale price.

[lloyd3]

$29K eh?  Not a bad number at all for a nice original 383 car.  I've started tracking the listing so as to see where it ends up. I've also looked at the recent eBay advert a bit more closely and I guess that I don't see a reverse light either, so a minor error on the restorer's part?  Those exhaust tips are not to my taste either, but no biggie.  It seems to be a fairly honest example and it's a hoot for me to see it because it is so-much like my own car.  Did I see that it decodes to a July 5th build date, because the Julian Calender (at least as I understand and decode it) gives that same build date for my UU-1 R/T.  I saw my car again last week and the interior was done (w/new headliner, carpet, new windshield and wiper seals in place). All that remains are brakes and the tailstripe decal and I'm back in the gas guzzling business here (after almost 4-years).  Ahhh, to be politically incorrect yet again!

[73rallye440magnum]

Has anyone emailed the new seller and asked for a copy of the broadcast sheet?

[Dans 68]

The new seller, no. Give her a try.

Dan

[73rallye440magnum]

That was the previous seller, correct?

I believe he made a lame excuse. Maybe the new seller would be a little more forthcoming with the fragile document.

[WINGIN IT]

The UU-1 exterior doesn't look anything like mine

I don't think it was repainted in a proper UU1 hue. Looks more like a QQ1..

The claim of it coming from out-of-state makes sense, even with those supposedly-original low miles.

The Lake Geneva,WI owner in their auction (listed in the initial post) stated it was a CA car.

This car is from California  ( I still have CA title )   

Last spring (almost exactly a year ago) a completely original (yes survivor) 68 383 4spd QQ1 white interior console car.. basically same options - the auction ended at 29k. It will be interesting to see if they can flip it for more as the first auction was pulled at 24k so we don't know the sale price.

Was that previouls one last spring an R/T ? I don't recall, but thinking it was. Out of TX I believe.

[bakerhillpins]

Was that previouls one last spring an R/T ? I don't recall, but thinking it was. Out of TX I believe.

The one I brought up was most definitely not an RT, but a 383 4spd and was in TX.  It was basically the car I wanted, OE options wise, but was out of my price range. When I called the owner about the car she said she had a 35k reserve. I believe sold it to the highest bidder as she was liquidating her fathers estate and it was his car (he had bought it new).

[WINGIN IT]

Yeah, that was the one. I talked to her as well.
My mistake. Nice car, as is this one.

I think $35K was out of range for that one , just as I think $40K is out of range for this one , IMO .

[bakerhillpins]

I think $35K was out of range for that one , just as I think $40K is out of range for this one , IMO .

        So it's going to be interesting to see how it sells. 

[Dans 68]

I've asked about the build sheet...but don't hold your breath.   

Dan

[WINGIN IT]

Ended early, anyone here grab it?

[bakerhillpins]

Ended early, anyone here grab it?

  Are you looking at the 1st auction or the flipper auction (link below) as it is still running?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-DODGE-CHARGER-4-SPD-BIG-BLOCK-383-NUMBERS-MATCHING-41465-MILE-BEAUTIFUL-CAR-/180853114873?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a1baf87f9

[WINGIN IT]

Woops yeah, sorry, just saw that. My mistake. 

[WINGIN IT]

So it looks like it ended around $31K, then shows it was relisted , but if you click on the  relisting link, it is no longer available.

Deal probably made on the down low....

[Dans 68]

Better late than never. 

Dan

[Bob T]

Better late than never.  

Dan

Speaking of late and maybe not that relevant perhaps, but I remember sseing this one on ebay probably 1 1/2 years ago for POA from a dealership in Ohio, No, sorry Dan I wasnt able to get the tag, but Man what a beautiful car.
Even had carpet cutouts placed on the floor like some old guy would do back in the day..Mileage was 26531.6
It was only listed for 2 days and then was gone    So Nice  

[73rallye440magnum]

Very nice. What is that little dial to the right of the radio?

[bakerhillpins]

Even had carpet cutouts placed on the floor like some old guy would do back in the day..Mileage was 26531.6

  I did that with all my cars until I had kids... Then nothing could keep up with all the mess.    That was my 20s.    

Better late than never.  

Dan

Yippee!  Did you get a more legible scan for your records?  Its tough to make out anything on those pics.

[Dans 68]

Very nice. What is that little dial to the right of the radio?

Rear speaker fader. http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,65929.msg741640.html#msg741640

Yippee!  Did you get a more legible scan for your records?  Its tough to make out anything on those pics.

What, you want to be able to read it too?    I do have larger images, but I had to shrink them down to a more acceptable size to post. When I get a more than a few free minutes I'll post sections of the sheet.

Dan

[WINGIN IT]

Were those copies you had on file, or did you buy the car?

[Dans 68]

Were those copies you had on file, or did you buy the car?

The copies were sent to my by the seller. If I had bought the car I wouldn't be underplaying it, trust me.  

Dan

[73rallye440magnum]

Thanks, Dan. Just a curious observation   

[WINGIN IT]

Were those copies you had on file, or did you buy the car?

The copies were sent to my by the seller. If I had bought the car I wouldn't be underplaying it, trust me.  

Dan

Ha, wouldn't expect you would, but just didn't want to wade through the back pages as I didn't remember you getting copies. 

[73rallye440magnum]

It's back. This time no reserve or buy it now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Charger-4-SPD-BIG-BLOCK-383-NUMBERS-MATCHING-NO-RESERVE-41K-orig-mi-Mopar-Muscle-/180860323877?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a1c1d8825

[Dans 68]

I wonder why the bullseye medallian was taken off the dash?   Wrong one anyway...should be the fratzog. http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,32972.msg405286.html#msg405286

Nice car anyway you cut it. I predict a $23,501 final bid.  

Dan

[WINGIN IT]

I wonder why the bullseye medallian was taken off the dash?   Wrong one anyway...should be the fratzog. http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,32972.msg405286.html#msg405286

Nice car anyway you cut it. I predict a $23,501 final bid.  

Dan

Dan, shouldn't give away your high bid  

I predict 23,502  

I don't think the car had a emblem in the dash ( didn't see one in the original auction from WI). May be getting mixed up with other car posted  within this post   

[Dans 68]

...I don't think the car had a emblem in the dash ( didn't see one in the original auction from WI). May be getting mixed up with other car posted  within this post   

You're right.   I guess I had emblems on the brain as I tried to buy one on eBay yesterday. My high bid was $20.01 and it went for $31.00. 

Dan

[T3/RT]

Found another pic. Looks like C6B...