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Pro-touring Guys, whats more important thrust bearings or disc brakes?

Started by miller, February 27, 2012, 08:26:02 AM

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BrianShaughnessy

Quote from: flyinlow on March 12, 2012, 08:16:57 PM
Do you have more info on the Dr.Diff Ford bearings?

It's not really a Dr. Diff thing.   He makes a living doing rear ends and parts.       Torino ends and bearings are something that needs to be planned in advance.    Utilize ford brakes, etc.

Hindsight is 20/20, blah blah.

Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

flyinlow

I just could not find the info on his website. Are the ford bearings larger? Tappered or flat?

BrianShaughnessy

Quote from: flyinlow on March 15, 2012, 12:04:17 PM
I just could not find the info on his website. Are the ford bearings larger? Tappered or flat?

You'd be better off looking around Moser / Stranger,  etc. websites.   

Ford bearings aka: Torino bearings are taper bearings.     Require torino housing ends on the rear.   They're larger AND tapered.    They have retainers on the axle much like the green bearings so they don't require adjustment blah blah like the stock mopar stuff and being tapered they run corners, etc.
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.


flyinlow

Thanks for the links.

So you use the Large ford bearings that match the Mopar axles (1.562) and fit the housing ends to my 8 3/4 tubes?

The ball bearings are more durable than a roller?

Musicman


thedodgeboys

Quote from: flyinlow on March 16, 2012, 01:17:07 PM
Thanks for the links.

So you use the Large ford bearings that match the Mopar axles (1.562) and fit the housing ends to my 8 3/4 tubes?

The ball bearings are more durable than a roller?

Im sure the guys at moser will get you all the correct parts to do it right.

Bigtree

Use Doctor Diffs kit (check his web-site), low prices and keep the taper-bearings the way Mopar intended!

pro451bee

Bear Iron sport works with Mopar tapered too.

Brads70

I went with a DrDiff Dana 60 with oversize tapered roller bearings and his rear disc kit. I saved a few bucks machining the caliper bracket and rotor myself.







BrianShaughnessy

Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

dangina

Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on March 10, 2012, 12:00:49 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on March 09, 2012, 05:07:42 AM
Has anybody actully had a properly installed and maintaind green bearing fail?




First set of snap ring greenies...  failed within a few thousand miles ... BUT the rear end didn't have the inner seals installed.   Somebody tried to tell me they shouldn't have failed as they're sealed but they didn't see the failed bearings.

But I made the mistake of using the fixed MP replacements.   Driver side didn't last long.  Replaced it with snap ring. 

I replaced the other side last year with the snap ring for the aerospace brakes.    Driver side was still OK.   The wilwood backing plate / e-brake setup requires snap ring versions.

I'll repeat it...  if I had to do it over I'd use ford ends / bearings and save the hassle of greenie failure or stock bearing adjustment.


can you use the ford bearings with the wilwoods?




BrianShaughnessy

Quote from: dangina on November 24, 2012, 01:49:55 AM
Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on March 10, 2012, 12:00:49 PM
Quote from: thedodgeboys on March 09, 2012, 05:07:42 AM
Has anybody actully had a properly installed and maintaind green bearing fail?




First set of snap ring greenies...  failed within a few thousand miles ... BUT the rear end didn't have the inner seals installed.   Somebody tried to tell me they shouldn't have failed as they're sealed but they didn't see the failed bearings.

But I made the mistake of using the fixed MP replacements.   Driver side didn't last long.  Replaced it with snap ring. 

I replaced the other side last year with the snap ring for the aerospace brakes.    Driver side was still OK.   The wilwood backing plate / e-brake setup requires snap ring versions.

I'll repeat it...  if I had to do it over I'd use ford ends / bearings and save the hassle of greenie failure or stock bearing adjustment.

can you use the ford bearings with the wilwoods?



"Probably" takes a different wilwood kit but haven't looked into it. 

Again... ford bearings require axle housing ends changed and axle modifications....   
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

green69rt

Tried to go to the doctordiff site and got a no show.   Is he still in business??  Also nothing on ebay that I could find.

BrianShaughnessy

Quote from: green69rt on November 24, 2012, 11:09:37 AM
Tried to go to the doctordiff site and got a no show.   Is he still in business??  Also nothing on ebay that I could find.


http://www.doctordiff.com/

Works for me  :shruggy:
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

green69rt


dangina

I wonder why they haven't found a way to use these tapered wheel bearings that are the same as in my toyota - they are the cats ass - it takes me under 15 min to swap out the pumpkin and axles when I need to, no adjusting or anything, just pull out the axles, slap the new ones in. pic: