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How much $$$$ would you place on green, reducing the overall value of a Charger?

Started by XS29L9Bxxxxxx, February 24, 2012, 09:24:08 PM

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XS29L9Bxxxxxx

I suppose it could be model-year dependent, but let's say the car is a triple green 1969 R/T Charger

If the car were something other than Green/Green/Green, how much more would it be worth?

Or, to simplify, let's say one has a $25,000 69 R/T which is either original, or in "solid driver" condition, how much would 3x Green REDUCE that price?

:popcrn:

spoolinhard


bull

Are you saying triple green is the original color in this scenario? Because you're not going to reduce the value of a classic Charger at all if it's painted the original color. If anything, painting one something other than original is going to devalue it or at best, break even.

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: bull on February 24, 2012, 09:31:19 PM
Are you saying triple green is the original color in this scenario? Because you're not going to reduce the value of a classic Charger at all if it's painted the original color. If anything, painting one something other than original is going to devalue it or at best, break even.

Yeah, green on fender tag :scratchchin:

XS29L9Bxxxxxx


bull

Like I said, you are not going to devalue a car by painting it the original color.

RallyeMike

I don't think its a simple question. It depends on what color its being compared to. A lot of people don't care for the T colors either.

Say,

3x green = T6+tan

but maybe

3x green (-15%) to 3x black.

:shruggy:
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cdr

for me if its green its worth less the amount to repaint it ANY other color :Twocents:
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PocketThunder

Quote from: cdr on February 24, 2012, 10:17:05 PM
for me if its green its worth less the amount to repaint it ANY other color :Twocents:

Yep..   :Twocents: + 2 more.

green or any T color (poop brown) is less value to me vs ANY other color.  But maybe this is age related.. i'm 36.
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My car was F8.  The paint was bad when I bought the car, which made a color change that much easier. Now, 12 years later, I have grown fond of the original color. NOT enough to strip the car down and return to stock, but if I found another car to build...... :yesnod:

cdr

Quote from: PocketThunder on February 24, 2012, 10:55:50 PM
Quote from: cdr on February 24, 2012, 10:17:05 PM
for me if its green its worth less the amount to repaint it ANY other color :Twocents:

Yep..   :Twocents: + 2 more.

green or any T color (poop brown) is less value to me vs ANY other color.  But maybe this is age related.. i'm 36.
its not an age thing I'm 49,my cars orig color IS POOP BROWN gold & i dislike green even worse
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Vainglory, Esq.

Maybe minus 10%.  Probably not even that, really.  I'd deal with green if everything else was there like 4-speed, original engine, etc.  Obviously I'd prefer red, but what are you gonna do?  They don't make 'em anymore.

Alaskan_TA

I would pay less for a car that was originally green - that is any other color now.

I love green.

I own a white car now with a green interior, both colors stay.   :yesnod:

Fred

Quote from: cdr on February 24, 2012, 11:15:45 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on February 24, 2012, 10:55:50 PM
Quote from: cdr on February 24, 2012, 10:17:05 PM
for me if its green its worth less the amount to repaint it ANY other color :Twocents:

Yep..   :Twocents: + 2 more.

green or any T color (poop brown) is less value to me vs ANY other color.  But maybe this is age related.. i'm 36.
its not an age thing I'm 49,my cars orig color IS POOP BROWN gold & i dislike green even worse

I love it in most colours (it's still a charger) except poop brown and gold. What were they thinking!


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resq302

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on February 25, 2012, 07:26:57 AM
Value & desirability do not go hand in hand

:iagree:  Although, in my opinion, if a car were painted a color that was not available for that year, to me, it would be worth less.  Say for instance, someone painted a 69 Charger plum crazy or panther pink (no offence to anyone here who has done that) but that would be worth less to me since it was not an available color in 1969.
Brian
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1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
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bakerhillpins

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on February 25, 2012, 07:26:57 AM
Value & desirability do not go hand in hand

No, but the desirability does play a role in value. Most folks judge the value of a car by what someone would pay. If you have a less desirable car you have less buyers throwing money at it and in many cases (not all) that changes the price it sells for. Supply/demand.

For me I don't hate green paint but green interior....  :eek2:  Not a big fan of the green tops either.  Green with white interior cars are sweet though.  :drool5:
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Maybe the value of the car isn't the part that decreases, maybe it's just that you eliminate some of the potential buyers with certain colors. There are colors that I despise, but if the car is in perfect condition I wouldn't say it's worth less. I also wouldn't say that a car with a color I really like is worth some kind of premium either. For me, originality isn't the important part of the hobby, it's the condition. I'd have absolutely no problem repainting a rare car the color that "I" prefer.

Now at the risk of contradicting myself, value is still tied to the car in another way. If I were to look at 2 identically optioned Chargers for sale, one a color I like, & one I hate, the nasty colored one would have to be priced cheaper in order to interest me. I wouldn't consider telling the seller they had to reduce the price because I didn't like the color, that's just stupid. It's no different than the moron who looked at a standard shift car I was selling once & telling me he needs an automatic & that the price must be reduced to cover the conversion costs.

I locked the car, told him to go look for an automatic & went back into my house.   ::)
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 Green cars are only worth half the price of ...say "red".  :Twocents:  Green only belongs on : Tanks, Jeeps and tractors.  :nana:

Old Moparz

Quote from: ACUDANUT on February 25, 2012, 10:49:08 AM
Green cars are only worth half the price of ...say "red".  :Twocents:  Green only belongs on : Tanks, Jeeps and tractors.  :nana:


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Tilar

Quote from: ACUDANUT on February 25, 2012, 10:49:08 AM
Green cars are only worth half the price of ...say "red".  :Twocents:  Green only belongs on : Tanks, Jeeps and tractors.  :nana:

 :2thumbs:

Quote from: cdr on February 24, 2012, 10:17:05 PM
for me if its green its worth less the amount to repaint it ANY other color :Twocents:

:iagree:  I've never been a fan of green, but as of right now two of my vehicles are green. My suburban and a 98 Ram 1500 I bought this last year.   :rotz:
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charger_fan_4ever

My 70 R/T was originally B5. I would take any color other than b5. I'd rather it been F8.

I'm pretty stuck on Y1. I wonder how that will affect the value once done compared to b5. Motor/trans are gone just a fender tag.

I would think the yellow on it would not devalue it but ?

cdr

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resq302

Ok, so lets throw this out there then....... My car is restored nicely as some of you have seen it in person could attest to,but it is paint R4 (bright red) which was an optional factory color back in 1969.  However, when the car was originally built, it was F8 green with a green vinyl roof and a saddle colored interior.  What would you consider would be worth more?  Leaving the color scheme the way it is as your see in the pic or returning it to its original green/green/tan color even though the numbers matching engine and trans are long gone (yet has been replaced with a period correct engine and trans).
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1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
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cdr

Quote from: resq302 on February 25, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
Ok, so lets throw this out there then....... My car is restored nicely as some of you have seen it in person could attest to,but it is paint R4 (bright red) which was an optional factory color back in 1969.  However, when the car was originally built, it was F8 green with a green vinyl roof and a saddle colored interior.  What would you consider would be worth more?  Leaving the color scheme the way it is as your see in the pic or returning it to its original green/green/tan color even though the numbers matching engine and trans are long gone (yet has been replaced with a period correct engine and trans).
your car looks very nice ,if it was green I would'ent consider buying it unless the price was 8 to 10 thou less to do a repaint  :Twocents:
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XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: Old Moparz on February 25, 2012, 10:27:18 AM
Maybe the value of the car isn't the part that decreases, maybe it's just that you eliminate some of the potential buyers with certain colors. There are colors that I despise, but if the car is in perfect condition I wouldn't say it's worth less. I also wouldn't say that a car with a color I really like is worth some kind of premium either. For me, originality isn't the important part of the hobby, it's the condition. I'd have absolutely no problem repainting a rare car the color that "I" prefer.

Now at the risk of contradicting myself, value is still tied to the car in another way. If I were to look at 2 identically optioned Chargers for sale, one a color I like, & one I hate, the nasty colored one would have to be priced cheaper in order to interest me. I wouldn't consider telling the seller they had to reduce the price because I didn't like the color, that's just stupid. It's no different than the moron who looked at a standard shift car I was selling once & telling me he needs an automatic & that the price must be reduced to cover the conversion costs.

I locked the car, told him to go look for an automatic & went back into my house.   ::)

Very good points  :cheers:

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: cdr on February 25, 2012, 12:25:19 PM
Quote from: resq302 on February 25, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
Ok, so lets throw this out there then....... My car is restored nicely as some of you have seen it in person could attest to,but it is paint R4 (bright red) which was an optional factory color back in 1969.  However, when the car was originally built, it was F8 green with a green vinyl roof and a saddle colored interior.  What would you consider would be worth more?  Leaving the color scheme the way it is as your see in the pic or returning it to its original green/green/tan color even though the numbers matching engine and trans are long gone (yet has been replaced with a period correct engine and trans).
your car looks very nice ,if it was green I would'ent consider buying it unless the price was 8 to 10 thou less to do a repaint  :Twocents:

Interesting... So green paint REDUCES the value to you, by 8-10k  :scratchchin:

Ghoste

I like green personally and wouldn't find it to devalue the car so in the case of yours Brian, I might find it worth less with the R4.  (might not too though)

cdr

Quote from: XS29L9Bxxxxxx on February 25, 2012, 12:27:08 PM
Quote from: cdr on February 25, 2012, 12:25:19 PM
Quote from: resq302 on February 25, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
Ok, so lets throw this out there then....... My car is restored nicely as some of you have seen it in person could attest to,but it is paint R4 (bright red) which was an optional factory color back in 1969.  However, when the car was originally built, it was F8 green with a green vinyl roof and a saddle colored interior.  What would you consider would be worth more?  Leaving the color scheme the way it is as your see in the pic or returning it to its original green/green/tan color even though the numbers matching engine and trans are long gone (yet has been replaced with a period correct engine and trans).
your car looks very nice ,if it was green I would'ent consider buying it unless the price was 8 to 10 thou less to do a repaint  :Twocents:

Interesting... So green paint REDUCES the value to you, by 8-10k  :scratchchin:
to do a paint job the correct way ,take car apart, strip, prime,block sand,paint,put car back together,just paint for mY car is 1000.00
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cdr

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bakerhillpins

Quote from: resq302 on February 25, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
Ok, so lets throw this out there then....... My car is restored nicely as some of you have seen it in person could attest to,but it is paint R4 (bright red) which was an optional factory color back in 1969.  However, when the car was originally built, it was F8 green with a green vinyl roof and a saddle colored interior.  What would you consider would be worth more?  Leaving the color scheme the way it is as your see in the pic or returning it to its original green/green/tan color even though the numbers matching engine and trans are long gone (yet has been replaced with a period correct engine and trans).

In my particular case it would be worth less since I wanted a car that I could return to it's fender tag and that particular color combination is way down on my shell out the $$ to get that list. Doesn't mean that you don't have a beautiful Charger, but rather I am just not part of the ones that want to buy it from you.

There is a recent thread in the Aero section that is trying to figure out why a particular Daytona hasn't sold yet. Lots of different opinions but one that pertains to this discussion is how color is effecting its sale. In this case it's a R4 with Black top/interior car. (  :scratchchin:  ;) ) Some were suggesting that since it's the most common color combination on the Aero cars that it's more plain and isn't able to pull in as many buyers. Suggesting that those that are in the buying pool at the upper end of the $$ spectrum are more concerned about rare rather than color.

What is cool to one is blah to another, what is an investment to one is a toy to another. It's what makes life interesting.  :2thumbs:
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XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: bakerhillpins on February 25, 2012, 01:59:35 PM
There is a recent thread in the Aero section that is trying to figure out why a particular Daytona hasn't sold yet. Lots of different opinions but one that pertains to this discussion is how color is effecting its sale. In this case it's a R4 with Black top/interior car. (  :scratchchin:  ;) ) Some were suggesting that since it's the most common color combination on the Aero cars that it's more plain and isn't able to pull in as many buyers. Suggesting that those that are in the buying pool at the upper end of the $$ spectrum are more concerned about rare rather than color.

What is cool to one is blah to another, what is an investment to one is a toy to another. It's what makes life interesting.  :2thumbs:

Interesting point... If I were buying a Daytona, it would have to be unique. Bronze or Copper Met., come to mind  :Twocents:

resq302

Hell, if I was buying a daytona, I wouldn't care WHAT color it was as long as I would be able to finally own a daytona!  But back to speaking of chargers, from what I remember on Chris' registry, the F8 color seemed to be the most common color.  Personally, when I was looking for a 69 charger, I could care less what color it was.  This one just happened to be repainted R4 and a fantastic job was done on the body.  Knowing how much body work costs and trying to find a good body shop is like hitting the lottery, I figured I couldn't go wrong with the car I got, be it factory applied color or not.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

six-tee-nine

I will never ever  buy a green car unless it needs full restoration and a respray.....



Of course people will offer more $ for a 3X black then a 3X green car since green is al less wanted color, but to the right person it can be worth just the same.
So in generel........yeah the green car will be woth less.
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bsakal

I debate this in my head all the time. My car is originally F3 with a green top, and black interior. When I bought it I didn't care what color it was, just that it was a complete car. One day I want to change it to either F8 or T7, then the next day I want to leave it F3. I love the greens, but I have never seen another F3 Charger in person, so part of me wants to keep it F3 because it will be different. But I also worry changing the color might hurt the value.
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Fred

Quote from: ACUDANUT on February 25, 2012, 10:49:08 AM
Green cars are only worth half the price of ...say "red".  :Twocents:  Green only belongs on : Tanks, Jeeps and tractors.  :nana:

Not sure about that. My 70 Cuda looked fabulous in green. In my opinion that car was made to be green, to me that's definitely the colour it looks best in.  :Twocents:


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charger Downunder

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Alaskan_TA


Check the definition of restored, (to return to as original is the cliff notes version) so if it is a different color now it has been customized, not restored.

For the record, I enjoy the custom cars as well as the restored cars, but I love green. Green with a tan gut is just awesome.  :yesnod:

At the same time, if I bought a car with a color change & it looked great, I would not repaint it until after an accident or other damage.

bullit68

my 70 sixpack(bought off this site)was originaly f8,green int,green vinyl top and green longitudinal side stripe.quadruple green!i got it with a black top and int and no stripe.hemi orange is my favourite 70 charger colour and i contemplated changing it to that but i'm going to stay green with green stripe.i think that would look cool.

bill440rt

Again, for me personally I think it really just depends on the car. I've seen some pretty nice green stock Chargers out there.  :yesnod:

A close friend of mine was on the hunt for a '69 Charger R/T, with one stipulation: it HAD to be green! That's what he wanted.
He searched for about a year. He finally found the car of his dreams: a '69 500, 440-4spd. In GREEN.

As for brown, there was a brown 440-6pack '70 'Cuda at Carlisle last year that made me have to mop up my drool off the ground. It was was just stunning in that color. You don't see too many of them, most are now painted red, yellow, purple, or some other hi-impact color.

What's desirable for one may not be for the other. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. 
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Quote from: resq302 on February 25, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
Ok, so lets throw this out there then....... My car is restored nicely as some of you have seen it in person could attest to,but it is paint R4 (bright red) which was an optional factory color back in 1969.  However, when the car was originally built, it was F8 green with a green vinyl roof and a saddle colored interior.  What would you consider would be worth more?  Leaving the color scheme the way it is as your see in the pic or returning it to its original green/green/tan color even though the numbers matching engine and trans are long gone (yet has been replaced with a period correct engine and trans).

I never did the fender tag police on your car,thats what it was ??????     :paintingpink:     

resq302

Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on February 25, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
Quote from: resq302 on February 25, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
Ok, so lets throw this out there then....... My car is restored nicely as some of you have seen it in person could attest to,but it is paint R4 (bright red) which was an optional factory color back in 1969.  However, when the car was originally built, it was F8 green with a green vinyl roof and a saddle colored interior.  What would you consider would be worth more?  Leaving the color scheme the way it is as your see in the pic or returning it to its original green/green/tan color even though the numbers matching engine and trans are long gone (yet has been replaced with a period correct engine and trans).

I never did the fender tag police on your car,thats what it was ??????     :paintingpink:     

Yup, thats what my car was "born" with.  However, when I got the car in July of 2000, the car was already done up nicely with the color scheme and didn't need any work done to the body.  Why mess with a good thing?
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

roger440

Interesting debate. I had to agonise over this with mine. Originally it was T7, probably the nastiest color ever devised.

2 things made me go with T5 (and the original white roof and saddle interior)

T5 was the closest i could get to the original "theme" of the car that i thought looked nice.

2nd was my thinking, that if you had $$$$ in your pocket looking for a nice charger, would you buy one thats T7 poop brown, or one in a more attractive color.? Yes, its not original now, but i suspect its value is no lower than if i did it T7. Of course being in the UK, originality is arguably less important anyway.
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nvrbdn

i would think if your making a pristine, back to factory specs,trailer queen restoration with everything perfect,stay with the factory colors.if your building a car you will enjoy,and the average guy would be interested in buying if you choose to sell,do your thing with your colors.i dont mind mopars dark green color of the 60's and early 70's. had a 69 roadrunner in dark green with green interior in 77. loved that car.
70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
50 Dodge Pilot House

Laxy

I love dark green on 68/69 Chargers! It's the next best thing to black! 70 Chargers I would prefer the Hi Impact colors though.

It was actually a bonus to me to find my 68 with green interior and exterior. Every other farking car I looked at was either brown or tan which just weren't doing it for me. 68's look best in a darker color.

If someone tried to offer me less because it's green I would punch them in the face for their sheer stupidity. There is a dark green factory Hemi 68 Charger with the correct wheels and dog dish hubcaps over here that is probably one of the best looking 68s of any color I have ever seen.  :icon_smile_big:

This thread is retarded.  :smilielol:
71 Valiant VH Hardtop 265 Hemi 4-speed, 71 VH Valiant Charger R/T Replica 360 4-speed, 68 Dodge Charger 440/727.

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: roger440 on February 26, 2012, 08:30:54 AM
Interesting debate. I had to agonise over this with mine. Originally it was T7, probably the nastiest color ever devised.

2 things made me go with T5 (and the original white roof and saddle interior)

T5 was the closest i could get to the original "theme" of the car that i thought looked nice.

2nd was my thinking, that if you had $$$$ in your pocket looking for a nice charger, would you buy one thats T7 poop brown, or one in a more attractive color.? Yes, its not original now, but i suspect its value is no lower than if i did it T7. Of course being in the UK, originality is arguably less important anyway.

I love both T7 and T5, but hat F colors and most B colors. Esp. when the interior matches. But hey, that's me...  :Twocents:

myk

Doesn't make any difference to me if the car is green or Barbie Pink-I'm just going to repaint it anyway.  Ultimately, I don't see why a color should have any say in the asking price of a car...

Ghoste


charge69

Back in the day, I rode in or drove a lot of Green cars and even had a '66 Mustang GT Convertible in what I would call "British Racing Green" with a black top and interior that was beautiful to me. That said, I just could never bring myself to buy a Green MOPAR of any type or style. Green was an extremely popular color with people back then and they sold a lot of Green cars.

I don't remember too many Chargers, though, being a shade of green. Lots of "C" bodies and many Darts/etc. and a few cuda/challys but, mostly, it was the big "C" bodies I observed.

When I stumbled upon my Charger, it was pure luck that it was R6 Red with white top/interior/stripe and that is the  way it is being restored. I do remember my buddy and work-friend coming home from classes for our new jobs in a T5 mettalic bronze with white top and interior 1969 Charger he bought used in 1971 and it was stunning to look at for me. Beautiful car !

Just my personal opinion and taste but a triple green car is nice to look at and see restored to original color but, I just would not buy it, discount for green or not.

EDIT: and NO, I would not insult the person by offering less for his car because it is green, I just would not try to buy it !

ACUDANUT

"desirability does play a role in value". Very true, how many of us dream of a green car, and repainting it only adds more money into it. 

Ghoste

I don't know that I dream about any color.  There are some that turn me off and green is not one of them (in fact two that don't do much for me are quite popular by the standards of most) but I don't think a color would influence me much on value when buying unless it was something truly horrid.

1974dodgecharger

Ill take green and repaint it....its like the saying some folks wont take a 318, but I will just take it and replace with 440.

XH29N0G

For me, f8 green outside (no vinyl top) and black inside is very nice.   Its what I grew up with.

Other colors also nice, and continue to grow on me.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Fred



Tomorrow is promised to no one.......drive your Charger today.

69 OUR/TEA

Quote from: XS29L9Bxxxxxx on February 24, 2012, 09:24:08 PM
I suppose it could be model-year dependent, but let's say the car is a triple green 1969 R/T Charger

If the car were something other than Green/Green/Green, how much more would it be worth?

Or, to simplify, let's say one has a $25,000 69 R/T which is either original, or in "solid driver" condition, how much would 3x Green REDUCE that price?

:popcrn:

None for me,it would actually be more desirable to me as that is one of my fav color combo's !!!Triple green,either F5 or F8,with a white stripe !!! :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:

69 OUR/TEA

Quote from: resq302 on February 25, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
Ok, so lets throw this out there then....... My car is restored nicely as some of you have seen it in person could attest to,but it is paint R4 (bright red) which was an optional factory color back in 1969.  However, when the car was originally built, it was F8 green with a green vinyl roof and a saddle colored interior.  What would you consider would be worth more?  Leaving the color scheme the way it is as your see in the pic or returning it to its original green/green/tan color even though the numbers matching engine and trans are long gone (yet has been replaced with a period correct engine and trans).


Brian,I'd bring it back to orig,you can't help that something happened to the orig eng/tranny,but you DO have control over what color it should be per the fender tag screwed down in your eng bay.Restored back to day one as built and delivered.The diff with you and others seem that others that have color changed thier Chargers are that they want to satisfy themselves,you seem to be in the category of dragging your car around for judged purposes,therefore,IMO,should be an orig restore.

My ultimate Charger was to have a factory triple black 69,I had the 69 B5 car that I could have easily painted black,but for numerous reasons I felt it should stay orig,it was a real R/T,great combo B5,white top,white stripe,and for value(IMO).
Therefore,after 10 years of owning it,a black one appeared for sale,bought it,and sold the B5 car.
The thing with this forum is you have a big variety of people and their opinions,thoughts,advice,etc,so one should'nt judge others on their specific taste...year of Chargers,color,clones,eng swaps,etc.Makes the world go round !!!!

Mytur Binsdirti

Dark metallic green, limelight & F6 green llook good to me, but that light metallic green is just gawd-aweful.  :eek2:

And any car with a green interior and/or green vinyl roof should be launched off of a cliff, no matter how nice it is.  :yesnod:

But back to the origial question as to how much green reduces the value; If the exterior is a shade of green that I don't like, deduct 50%. If it's got a green interior & exterior; the car is valueless.

Mytur Binsdirti has spoken. 

Ghoste


69 OUR/TEA

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on September 03, 2012, 09:03:32 AM
Dark metallic green, limelight & F6 green llook good to me, but that light metallic green is just gawd-aweful.  :eek2:

And any car with a green interior and/or green vinyl roof should be launched off of a cliff, no matter how nice it is.  :yesnod:

Can't beleive you say it like that? :shruggy:

kikgas01

Mine is green/green/green. Must only be worth 2 or 3 k even if it does still have all of the original body panels and 98%rust free including trunk, tubs, floors and blah blah blah.....It was light green new... Instead of launching it off a cliff, maybe I should biuld it into a General since it is a terrible car/color combo anyway. No loss right?
:scratchchin: :shruggy: :rofl:


Ghoste


kikgas01

Quote from: Ghoste on September 03, 2012, 09:31:22 AM
Just don't launch it from a cliff whatever you do.
LoL, I love my Charger and the color in the bright sun just kicks ass. The niceness on mine makes up for everything and I ain`t changing a thing. I can say I have a 69 Charger and a NICE one at that.

resq302

Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on September 03, 2012, 09:03:09 AM
Quote from: resq302 on February 25, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
Ok, so lets throw this out there then....... My car is restored nicely as some of you have seen it in person could attest to,but it is paint R4 (bright red) which was an optional factory color back in 1969.  However, when the car was originally built, it was F8 green with a green vinyl roof and a saddle colored interior.  What would you consider would be worth more?  Leaving the color scheme the way it is as your see in the pic or returning it to its original green/green/tan color even though the numbers matching engine and trans are long gone (yet has been replaced with a period correct engine and trans).


Brian,I'd bring it back to orig,you can't help that something happened to the orig eng/tranny,but you DO have control over what color it should be per the fender tag screwed down in your eng bay.Restored back to day one as built and delivered.The diff with you and others seem that others that have color changed thier Chargers are that they want to satisfy themselves,you seem to be in the category of dragging your car around for judged purposes,therefore,IMO,should be an orig restore.


Well, I gotta be honest.  I have a set of bias ply white wall tires and another set of radial tires.  Yes, there are times where I drive my car all over the place but then there are times where I trail it. Mainly if it is long distances with strict judging, the bias ply tires go on.  Otherwise, unless it is a short distance show, the radials are on it.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

bill440rt

Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on September 03, 2012, 09:03:09 AM

The thing with this forum is you have a big variety of people and their opinions,thoughts,advice,etc,so one should'nt judge others on their specific taste...year of Chargers,color,clones,eng swaps,etc.Makes the world go round !!!!


Well said, bro!  :cheers:



Quote from: kikgas01 on September 03, 2012, 09:29:22 AM
Mine is green/green/green. Must only be worth 2 or 3 k even if it does still have all of the original body panels and 98%rust free including trunk, tubs, floors and blah blah blah.....It was light green new... Instead of launching it off a cliff, maybe I should biuld it into a General since it is a terrible car/color combo anyway. No loss right?
:scratchchin: :shruggy: :rofl:



Build it into a GL first, THEN launch it off a cliff!!  :icon_smile_big:  :smilielol:
(Actually, don't touch it. It's effing awesome just the way it is.)
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

kikgas01


buckeyecharger

This should stir up some comments!!!  :nana:True story...I sold my R6 (red), black interior, black strip, black top, 69 R/T to buy an F5 (Med GREEN Met.) XP matching numbers 383 car. F5 is one of my favorite colors and that's what I was looking for.   :drool5:

Now for the rest of the story. The R/T was painted yellow when I had it and was drivable. Sold it from here almost 2 years ago to a guy in the Netherlands.The R/T needed a total restore, quarters, floor patches, trunk floor, one rear frame rail, tranny support, fenders and door work.  I am not a body man and I don't have a good friend or relative as one either. The body work alone would have cost a small fortune. Mechanically, it had a 1974 440 in it. It ran great and had some extra goodies on it. I had a lot of fun with the car!

My thought was this, I didn't have the room, the time, or the money to redo the R/T, plus with it being non-numbers and needing an HP 440 to be "done right" I thought I would never get back what I would invest into it. The F5 XP 383 is numbers-matching and from Arkansas, the body is all original, only needing center trunk work and lower, right rear quarter skin replaced and a new F5 paint job. The engine was completely rebuilt, and some of the GREEN interior was already replaced from Legendary. In my mind, a smaller investment and still an opportunity to make some money down the road, even if it is green!

I am good with my decision, some people who think the R/T is the end-all, be-all think I should have kept the R/T and restored it anyway. By some of the comments in this post, I am sure many will say the same.

kikgas01


Ghoste


hawkeye

i'm no expert on value, but i like seeing the green cars.  they were a very popular color back in the late 60's early 70's.  some of the colors have been done to death and it is refreshing to see one that is different.  that is why i am painting mine burnt orange.  hawkeye   


1970chargerrt

Quote from: kikgas01 on September 03, 2012, 09:29:22 AM
Mine is green/green/green. Must only be worth 2 or 3 k even if it does still have all of the original body panels and 98%rust free including trunk, tubs, floors and blah blah blah.....It was light green new... Instead of launching it off a cliff, maybe I should biuld it into a General since it is a terrible car/color combo anyway. No loss right?
:scratchchin: :shruggy: :rofl:



That's a really nice looking car.  Green isn't my favorite color (blue is) but I don't dislike it.  I don't think there was a factory color combo that was actually produced that didnt look good with a vinyl top and magnum wheels.  I actually think the vinyl top is more of an issue to me than any factory color.  I really think 68-70 Chargers need the vinyl top to look right although non vinyl top ones are nice too, but they just don't look right to me. 

Tilar

I've never been a fan of green, but a dark green can look really good. A light green would probably drop 40% for me IF it were going to be just a driver, If I were going to restore it to something other than factory it wouldnt matter. Funny thing is I now own two vehicles that are green.  :brickwall: 
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



Ghoste

Quote from: 1970chargerrt on September 04, 2012, 05:28:04 PMI really think 68-70 Chargers need the vinyl top to look right although non vinyl top ones are nice too, but they just don't look right to me. 

I don't know that my personal feeling is that they NEED it but I sure would agree that they are one of the few cars that almost always look great with it.

sixpack70

My 70 Charger is a triple green car and I love it. It is also a v code 4spd car and I just feel like this car needs to stay original even though I do not have the fender tag and only 2/3rds of the build sheet. My 69 Mach 1 was originally a black jade car and I will eventually return it to it's original color. I am just a sick green lover.
1966 Falcon
1969 Mustang Mach 1
1970 Charger R/T 440+6 4spd