?? HOW MANY ,,,,daytona's and superbird's,,,alive today???

[djcarguy]

The production # i have got from site are like,,,392-c500 made,,,, 503 daytonas made,,, and 1935 to 2000 superbirds made?
   
how many still survive today?  the info is very questable and verys.. what is the best info or site to answer how many left?
       Steve Magnante,from car craft 2007---believes just over 1,000 birds left today.Areo cars says 1257 birds known?  and a wing guy with long history with the wing communite posted maybe 1200 wing cars left today?
   info and numbers wanted.  thanks

[marty42]

Define 'alive"

[nascarxx29]

If its still around and looks like this one .I  would say its not alive 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,44932.msg492531/topicseen.html#msg492531

[Ghoste]

The generally accepted survival rate for musclecars is 20%.  I would estimate it's higher with wing cars because the exclusivity of the cars was known right from the start.  They were seen as a desired collectible from new and not just a cool new car.

[Aero426]

The info posted at this link has not changed dramatically since 2009.  Just a few cars added. 

http://www.superbirdclub.com/survivors.html

Yes, the survival rate on the wing cars far exceeds the norm for other muscle cars - probably because of the weird factor.   

The Talladega and Spoiler II survival rate is much lower, and I would expect C500's to similar to that. 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

I have 122 C500's & 102 Daytona's in my '69 Registry.....

[FJMG]

An interesting tidbit is that  some people have compiled almost as many Hemi daytona VIN's as there are on the shipping list (36 or 37 I think), in other words, of all the "known" or "registered" Hemi daytona VIN's it does not appear that any of them DO NOT appear on the list. Rather interesting in that the commonly accepted number of J-code daytonas is 70 and the 33 or 34 that do not show up on the list seem to never surface in reallity either.

I understand that at least one Hemi was listed as a 440 car and of course there exists a very high possibility that there were many more but, still quite interesting that the only misprinted engine codes belong to cars that have never seem to be found.

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Although I cannot prove it, I believe the "survival" rate is extremely high for the wing cars... say 75-80%...    Their outrageous features attracted hardcore fans by the mid 1970s.  On Charger 500s, I would expect fewer would still exist, maybe 65-70%.

One of the reasons that I believe the survival rate is extremely high is that I personally know of 8 wing cars That have never been registered or seen by the public.

[69_500]

Well let's just say that there are more than 200 of the C500's left. Can not personally say I have seen every one I have info on but that number is 268. With a very small number of those being noted as too far gone to do anything with or having been crushed already.

[XS29LA47V21]

I have 122 C500's & 102 Daytona's in my '69 Registry.....

 That odd to me, I personally think there are more Daytonas remaining (titled) all day long, closer to the 2 to 1 range maybe?  

Both have always been "collectable" but the 500s lagged some maybe, but even then by mid 80s I would like to think most began finding good homes,  I am in the stack of 50-65% 500 and greater than 80% Daytonas 

[62 Max]

Well let's just say that there are more than 200 of the C500's left. Can not personally say I have seen every one I have info on but that number is 268. With a very small number of those being noted as too far gone to do anything with or having been crushed already.

About three years ago it was said quite a few more existed than were actually built.Sort of like some of the Corvette's.

[Ghoste]

And 69 Z 28's.  I find it hard to believe in the case of the wing cars though.

[69_500]

Well if you take the entire list I have of 500's and take the oldest figure of 392 produced I am around 65%.

[odcics2]

The "70" number was based on known hemi Daytonas vs the 503 total number built.   "If we know of "xx" amount and there are 503 total, well, there must be 70 all together."  I recall a "Special Interest Auto" magazine in the late 70s-early 80s was where that number came from...  And it was made up at that time.  If the contributors to that story are found, they will tell you. 

[nascarxx29]

The 1978 Special interest article also it gave sequences of vin numbers for 500 Daytona and Superbird
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2009/05/17/sia-flashback-mopars-winged-wonders/

[68 Bullitt Charger]

Gonna find one(either Wing car) soon thats 100% original I hope. They are awesome.

[djcarguy]

Gonna find one(either Wing car) soon thats 100% original I hope. They are awesome.

==================================================================================   well have ya or anyone found more info     or found 100% original wing cars lately???     GOOD LUCK with the 100%   find?     

[djcarguy]

Define 'alive"

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Well  for a rare car ,like wing cars;; i would define alive ;  as one that is still restorable..  not beyond saving even if it will never be a numbers match.  
    basicly a shell with vin that can be saved ,,without rebody and that whole can of trickery.
 I know older thread but with winter coming on maybe good time .think there is more info and numbers ,to learn and share.   if no   interest it will die off and fade away.thanks    dj-tona

[1970Moparmann]

I have 122 C500's & 102 Daytona's in my '69 Registry.....

Too bad that more owners don't register them....

[Aussie_Charger]

g'day, n00b here;

Ive read a bit that some datona's were sold as 500s after the nose cones and wings were removed as they didnt orignally sell the greatest, do we know how many of these there were? or if the owners of the "500s" actually know that they were actually daytona's (if there was some way to actually tell)

[69_500]

g'day, n00b here;

Ive read a bit that some datona's were sold as 500s after the nose cones and wings were removed as they didnt orignally sell the greatest, do we know how many of these there were? or if the owners of the "500s" actually know that they were actually daytona's (if there was some way to actually tell)

I can not think of a single Daytona that was converted back to a 500 just to be sold. And if one was done it would be really easy to tell if it was a Daytona instead of a 500 due to the large gap in the VIN's of the two cars. There is almost 100,000 digit gap between the two runs of cars. Now there are several 500's that early on people added noses and wings to, to try to sell them as Daytona's years ago (IE late 70's early 80's). Because at that time 500's were cheap and the Daytona's were starting to rise in value. But honestly even back then there was enough knowledge about the cars that several people could tell which were legit Daytona's.

[5hunert]

I have 122 C500's & 102 Daytona's in my '69 Registry.....

Too bad that more owners don't register them....

Well, there's the folks who have a runner that doesn't get registered, then there's the truly "off the grid" cars. Examples: My C500 was in a backyard for decades waiting to be fixed up.  Just 2 miles up the road from where it was, still sits a real 69 A12 6Pack Super Bee that I doubt is known to any registration.  To my knowledge, it hasn't been licensed since at least the early 1980s. In rural areas, storage is cheap and getting a car running again takes cash that often isn't there.  The guy that owns this car knows what it is, digs it, and plans to fix it up.  And has been for the past 20 or more years.  Someday (hopefully) he will.  I'm willing to bet a lot of other high profile cars got saved in a similar manner, but are unregistered. 

[Ghoste]

And as strange as it might seem to us sometimes, there are a lot of these cars that belong to people who aren't on the internet.  (so registries are a bit unknown to them)

[djcarguy]

  Any New finds??/  birds,,tonas,,or c500??    





  that c500 on ebay ,,STATED  1 of 463 c-500es made but many were givin too nascar teams ,so the c-500 is real rare as so many were destoryied by nascar and thru the yrs?? 

[Aero426]

Charger 500 cars are certainly rare.    But almost all of the race cars by this time were built up from bare Charger bodies with no VIN numbers.    The last cars built from the tear down method were in 1966.