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Black Matte Wrap Wanted

Started by Allblackeverything, February 09, 2012, 09:30:42 AM

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Allblackeverything

 :icon_smile_question: I have a black 2008 Charger and I want to have it painted a black matte; mainly because I do not see any Chargers that color around my way. Then I came across the black matte wrap at
http://www.matteblackcar.com/
and now, this is what I want.  I live in Indianapolis, and have not had any luck finding a shop that specializes in matte black wraps.  I thought to go to a regular wrap shop, but thought they were mainly for signage. So if anyone can steer me in the right direction, I'd be much obliged.  :yesnod:

Allblackeverything

 :o I would LOVE  :drool5: to have my Charger this color!!  :yesnod:

68X426

Use the 3M site to learn more about the product and installation. Here's a helpful link:

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Graphics/3Mgraphics/WTB/Installers/



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xpbprox

I've seen someone plasti-dip a whole car, not really sure how it turned out tho.
Plasti-dip I believe is just like a spray on vynal that car peel off if you want it to

Indygenerallee

You do know most full vehicle wraps run about $5,000! I would just paint it.
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

bill440rt

Unless there are 0% bubbles, wrinkles, imperfections, overlap lines, etc, a complete matte black vehicle wrap would probably look like crap. Just throwing that out there.  :Twocents:
Meanwhile, you could spend several thousand on a QUALITY matte black paint job. It all depends on how high quality you want get.

Keep in mind that ANY imperfections in the paint (dirt nibs, runs/sags, etc) are there forever because you cannot remove them with a matte finish. Fingerprints, grease, tire dressings, etc will all stain the surface and are very difficult to remove.
I'm going through this painting a car matte black for a buddy right now. We're just about to do the inner jambs & surfaces. Base/matte clear. He's dead set on it as well.
Good luck with the matte black job, let us know how you like it after 6 months.  :cheers:
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Troy

Quote from: Allblackeverything on February 09, 2012, 09:30:42 AM
:icon_smile_question: I have a black 2008 Charger and I want to have it painted a black matte; mainly because I do not see any Chargers that color around my way. Then I came across the black matte wrap at
http://www.matteblackcar.com/
and now, this is what I want.  I live in Indianapolis, and have not had any luck finding a shop that specializes in matte black wraps.  I thought to go to a regular wrap shop, but thought they were mainly for signage. So if anyone can steer me in the right direction, I'd be much obliged.  :yesnod:
It's the same process for installation. Any shop who already does wraps should be able to do it. Don't expect it to be cheap though.

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SRT-440

I was recently quoted $2200 to wrap my GN matte black...yes you can wash it...no it won't stain like the flat paint does..it's actually very durable and can be done with zero seams. Typically it can last 5 years or more depending on how much direct sunlight it gets...it could last much longer if it was a weekend cruiser. :2thumbs:
I have several friends with wraps on their vehicles and they drive them dailey...one even being a four wheel drive that sees offroading.
The guys that do just "signage" are some of the best in the biz.

From what I hear, flat paint (even the ones with a semi gloss clear coat) leaves finger prints and stains and is all around less forgiving.
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SRT-440

The wrap is typically more consistant in it's shade/color than paint...u'd need a very HIGH end paint job to compare to a 3M wrap:


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bill440rt

Quote from: SRT-440 on February 10, 2012, 08:45:31 PM
The wrap is typically more consistant in it's shade/color than paint...u'd need a very HIGH end paint job to compare to a 3M wrap:




That's a wrap?? That looks pretty damn good! No seams, either?? That's definitely a good alternative then if there are no seams.  :2thumbs:
The most common thing I hear from people is how much they hate flat black after a while from wrenching on their vehicle, driving it, touching it, finish maintanence, etc. People I've spoken with end up hating it after a short while because it is so different than having a vehicle with a gloss finish.
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b5blue

  Many of the V.A.'s trucks/vans have the signage type wrap so I can tell you.... A: A door ding is a disaster, the film rips or wrinkles up leaving a tear, blister or bubble. The exposed glue stays embedded with dirt. B: Stretched areas around curves or tight angles will stress and start a kind of wrinkle or ripple at the transition, THAT GETS WORSE OVER TIME. C: It scratches around key holes and door handles as it's plastic that is softer than paint, with no way to buff it out. D: As it ages it hangs on to dirt better. E: It ends at the jamb area just at the visible exterior, so open doors, hoods or trunk areas reveal original color.
  It may look cool for a year or two but will fail just like all the "wood-grain" wagons you've seen, it's the same stuff. Depending on where you live, you could be turning your car into a freaking oven, that stuff will get so hot it will accelerate all of the above problems X 10! (And you'll scorch your hand touching it at high noon!)   :lol:
 
     

SRT-440

None of the cars I know of has experienced these problems except the door ding...they just pulled the wrap on the door off did a paint less dent repair and reapplied the wrap.
Wraps by nature are temporary...meant to last 3-5 years with the option of pulling it off and going back to ur paint...I love the flat look but I would prolly get tired of it after a couple years and be ready for gloss again. It's all in what u want...but if u go with a wrap don't use cheap material use the 3M stuff.
And it's really not too hard to apply...get a heat gun or even a hair dryer and warm the vinyl up and it will contour to anything...heat also removes it without damaging the paint underneath..it's really cool stuff...a high end paint job will be just as nice but its not removable. :)
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b5blue

  I'm in Florida, the heat from my roof in flat black primer in late Nov. was shocking!  :o  Our Ford van for logistics was 3-4 years old when replaced and it's the one I knew closely with these issues. The top of the roof was not covered but even the windows were, they were covered in vinyl with millions of pin holes so you could see quite well through it.   :yesnod: