Another white hemi charger 500 on the bag ?

[charger_fan_4ever]

This one is a 4 gear to boot  

Dream car right there.

I wonder if this is the white hemi I saw at moparfest way back in the late 90's  

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-DODGE-HEMI-CHARGER-500-426-HEMI-4-SPEED-4-10-DANA-FACTORY-J-CODE-/110820710370?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19cd6dd7e2

[hemi68charger]

Serious nice car for sure............

[StoneCold]

I wonder if this is the white hemi i saw at moparfest way back in the late 90's  

It was.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,78882.0.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,85376.0.html

[WINGIN IT]

Not a aficionado of 500s, so are they all coded V88 for the tail stripe , as they all come with it?
And is it always color coded to the interior?

[moparstuart]

 

[hemi68charger]

Not a aficionado of 500s, so are they all coded V88 for the tail stripe , as they all come with it?
And is it always color coded to the interior?

All C500's are supposed to have V88, just like the Daytonas... Or, I should say Daytonas are just like C500's since C500's were 1st..  

I do believe the stripe color was "supposed" to be connected to the interior color some how...

[richRTSE]

This one is a 4 gear to boot  

Dream car right there.

thats is one of my favorite 500s....now if only I could win the lottery....

[Ghoste]

Not if I win it first. 

[tan top]

 

[Aero426]

Not a aficionado of 500s, so are they all coded V88 for the tail stripe , as they all come with it?
And is it always color coded to the interior?

V88 means to "delete the R/T stripe".   The special 500 stripe was then included as part of the A11 Charger 500 package.

[WINGIN IT]

Not a aficionado of 500s, so are they all coded V88 for the tail stripe , as they all come with it?
And is it always color coded to the interior?

V88 means to "delete the R/T stripe".   The special 500 stripe was then included as part of the A11 Charger 500 package.

So does the buildsheet won't show any different than V88 either.
Was curious to know how you would know what the original color stripe was.
I think it's the same issue with the Daytonas...

[hemi68charger]

So does the buildsheet won't show any different than V88 either.
Was curious to know how you would know what the original color stripe was.
I think it's the same issue with the Daytonas...

Unless you have original 1st-hand knowledge, photos, mopar forensic-evidence or the car is a survivor, you can't............. Someone correct me if I'm incorrect... Doug?

[pettybird]

So does the buildsheet won't show any different than V88 either.
Was curious to know how you would know what the original color stripe was.
I think it's the same issue with the Daytonas...

Unless you have original 1st-hand knowledge, photos, mopar forensic-evidence or the car is a survivor, you can't............. Someone correct me if I'm incorrect... Doug?

Just ask MCG.  I'm sure they'll dig up The Truth for you!

[Aero426]

So does the buildsheet won't show any different than V88 either.
Was curious to know how you would know what the original color stripe was.
I think it's the same issue with the Daytonas...

As Troy said, the build sheet does not note the color of the 500 or Daytona stripe.    The only way to know for sure is to have a documented photo of the car, first hand knowledge, or look in the trunk of an unrestored car and see the remnants of the old stripe where it was tucked in around the marker hole.

[hemi68charger]

So does the buildsheet won't show any different than V88 either.
Was curious to know how you would know what the original color stripe was.
I think it's the same issue with the Daytonas...

Unless you have original 1st-hand knowledge, photos, mopar forensic-evidence or the car is a survivor, you can't............. Someone correct me if I'm incorrect... Doug?

Just ask MCG.  I'm sure they'll dig up The Truth for you!

[69_500]

Great looking ride for sure. Stripe colors are anyone's guess. Can not see much rhyme or reason on cars stripes as of yet. Some match interior others are tri color cars. Exterior, interior and stripe could pretty much be in any combo you wanted.

[WINGIN IT]

Great looking ride for sure. Stripe colors are anyone's guess. Can not see much rhyme or reason on cars stripes as of yet. Some match interior others are tri color cars. Exterior, interior and stripe could pretty much be in any combo you wanted.

So could you order a 500 or a Daytona, or was it just buy what was available, since they made only a set number of them?
If not then who decided the stripe color ? Creative?

[maxwellwedge]

That.....is an age old mystery. There were recommended stripe colors etc. for other (production) cars - even the Birds......never seen any internal engineering or memo's on these cars.

[XS29LA47V21]

As Troy said, the build sheet does not note the color of the 500 or Daytona stripe.    The only way to know for sure is to have a documented photo of the car, first hand knowledge, or look in the trunk of an unrestored car and see the remnants of the old stripe where it was tucked in around the marker hole.
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Ok but, not to be augmentative but history topic at times vs factory original, in 2012 the first hand knowledge on very few cars exists today and really only has priceless value to that person or their close friends honestly.  As much as I would love to have a 1978 photo of one of my cars does not mean at some occasion, although likely slim that an owner of a fancy car could or would have changed the stripe color with an original one in the early 70s say.   Remembering the gas crunch impacted these cars too in what was being done to them.  So you buy a nice crusty builder in 1998 with crusty stripe shows likely is what it was I agree, but not guarantee without a shadow of doubt, just part of its history. 

In other words hanging any hat on any 1970s-early 80s photos or "sellers first hand knowledge" might help feel better and provide history and intent but may not reflect as sold options.

With that said, what I think does help on some cars appears to me as having clear historical precedence common senses can apply with piecing some history together.  Red cars probably the thoughest, but say a red car with red interior is more likely to have a white stripe and if had black interior more likely would have a black stripe, maybe.  Or a black car w/ black interior more likely white stripe remotely could be red stripe.  Black car with red interior you really thing it could be any color beside red stripe, no do not think so, maybe.  Blue car with blue interior=> either black or blue common, but not red.  Green car green interior, some black stripes but few, but mostly white. A green car with white interior likely is a white stripe etc, etc    I do think the original color interior can help be a gauge of the stripe if not know.

[WINGIN IT]

Personally I think the stripe should match the interior , in both the case of Daytonas and Superbirds.
I think a  blue Daytona with , blue interior and light blue stripe would be awesome.
Triple black, even better.
I know for the Superbirds it's generally recognized it has to do with body color, but I still think keyed to interior would be better in most cases. 

[WINGR]

Not a aficionado of 500s, so are they all coded V88 for the tail stripe , as they all come with it?
And is it always color coded to the interior?

V88 means to "delete the R/T stripe".   The special 500 stripe was then included as part of the A11 Charger 500 package.

So does the buildsheet won't show any different than V88 either.
Was curious to know how you would know what the original color stripe was.
I think it's the same issue with the Daytonas...

I am not 100% on this but doesn't the NBBOA-Aero Warriors Club have copies of the Daytona order list that does show some of the cars along with their stripe colors. I had seen part of it but my old Tona was not on there. I guess for some reason it didn't have all of the cars listed like the actual shipping list did.

WINGR/Steve

[WINGIN IT]

That would be a good reference, if you ever wanted to check your Daytona/500 original stripe color.

[richRTSE]

I am not 100% on this but doesn't the NBBOA-Aero Warriors Club have copies of the Daytona order list that does show some of the cars along with their stripe colors.

I believe the Daytona shipping list does not contain stripe color info (or even car color), just VIN, VON, SPD, and dealer info. I think the list your thinking of is the Winged Warrior list that had VIN, ext color, int color, stripe, trans, etc. That list was made later and doesn't have every car, and some cars may have already had changes made by the time their info was recorded....

In other words hanging any hat on any 1970s-early 80s photos or "sellers first hand knowledge" might help feel better and provide history and intent but may not reflect as sold options.   

...and supposedly there is a 500 shipping list too, but I don't know if anyone has ever actually seen it....     I'd sure like to know where my 500 was sold new... 

[Ghoste]

Allegedly one person has seen it...

[Aero426]

...and supposedly there is a 500 shipping list too, but I don't know if anyone has ever actually seen it....     I'd sure like to know where my 500 was sold new...  

Have you asked Galen for the information?    

[moparstuart]

 I have very little if no information on my 500 ,  no fender tag or build sheet . So yes it would be nice to have access to that list   

[Aero426]

The blue Hemi 500 that was on Ebay showed Galen paperwork that said: 559 Charger 500s produced.  Which are:  116 - Hemis; 443 - 440s; 1 Hemi to Canada; and 4 - 440s to Canada.   Galen issued this paper to the owner of this car on 7/30/08.   Now either this car had a copy of the window sticker with it.  Or Galen does have a list.  He showed that it was originally shipped to Massey Dodge Inc. in Jacksonville, Florida.  

In any event, the info may be out there, but you will need to consult for it.   I don't think we are talking big dollars to get that done.   I don't think it will cost anything to ask "Can you provide this information?"   But I do not believe the alleged "list" is going to be made public any time soon.    

[nascarxx29]

There is a daytona stripe color list but not complete .Havent seen one for the 500 other than 1990-1994 a GG accounting magazine article

[arrow]

...and supposedly there is a 500 shipping list too, but I don't know if anyone has ever actually seen it....     I'd sure like to know where my 500 was sold new...  

Have you asked Galen for the information?    

If you contact and send the needed information to GTS , they will send you a certificate with the selling dealer of your 500 -they were doing this free of charge a few yrs. ago. They sent me mine .

[richRTSE]

...and supposedly there is a 500 shipping list too, but I don't know if anyone has ever actually seen it....     I'd sure like to know where my 500 was sold new...  

Have you asked Galen for the information?    

Yes, back in march of 2010 I emailed him. The car came with a reproduction window sticker previous owner had made in the 80's (doesn't remember who did it) using the build sheet, and I emailed a copy to Galen to verify if it was one done by him. It lists a dealer in Ohio, but i'm not sure its accurate, as it also lists the cars as an R/T not a 500 (fendertag and build sheet are XS, not XX like VIN on dash).  So, almost 2 yrs later I'm still wondering...would be nice to see a list made public like the Daytona list....

[moparstuart]

what is his email address  ? i guess i will try and get inline    

[WINGR]

There is a daytona stripe color list but not complete .Havent seen one for the 500 other than 1990-1994 a GG accounting magazine article

Yep, that's the list I was talking about. I believe the WWNBOA Club has a copy of that list but as Dave said it is not complete with all the Daytona's that were built and that were on the actual Daytona shipping list.

ALso there has not been a list like this for the C500 which has been made available to the public.

WINGR/Steve

[WINGIN IT]

what is his email address  ? i guess i will try and get inline    

Good Lord, let's not bleed over that Moparts thread to here !
I JUST finished reading the 26th page 

[richRTSE]

what is his email address  ? i guess i will try and get inline    

I emailed him again today and already received a response from Diane, saying she'll forward my question on to Galen for a reply. Wait and see now....

...I used the email link on the GTS home page...

[moparstuart]

what is his email address  ? i guess i will try and get inline    

I emailed him again today and already received a response from Diane, saying she'll forward my question on to Galen for a reply. Wait and see now....

...I used the email link on the GTS home page...

[69Charger500]

Something to think about...

If someone says they will provide original documentation to an owner if they can prove it is rightfully theirs, then why will Galen not provide the shipping list for Charger 500s back to Chrysler Historical where it came from in the first place?  And yes, they have asked for it...

[Ghoste]

Their offer wasn't big enough?

[69Charger500]

Now that is funny!

[69Charger500]

By the way, as far as stripe color goes, my 500 has a white stripe that does not match the black interior.  I have a pic from 1971 so it seems reasonably sure that was the original stripe color.  Not sure what determined who or how the stripe color got selected...  Code guides and engineering graphics listed "recommended" combinations, but those allowed almost any combination anyway...

[ksquared]

There is a daytona stripe color list but not complete .Havent seen one for the 500 other than 1990-1994 a GG accounting magazine article

What I don't understand is it says "Page 15."  Is "Page 15" the only page known, or are the other 14 pages top secret?  If it was published in the newsletters, does anyone know the month/year?

[nascarxx29]

It was published in several newsletters.But not every car that s on the daytona shiplist appears