Gearhead movies they should remake and the ones they ruined...

Inked_Ghandi · February 03, 2012, 12:19:16 PM

I would just like to know what everyone thinks about this topic. I tried watching the more recent Dukes of Hazzard because that charget is sexy but I couldn't get past the opening credits.

Ghoste · February 03, 2012, 12:29:24 PM

Generally I find they shouldn't remake any and they ruined them all. They arguably did a better job with Gone In 60 Seconds but most of the time, it was right the first time.
Perhaps my other reason for saying this is my strongly held opinion that they need to STOP doing rmakes of every boomer image and icon no matter how flimsy the original was just for the sake of tying to something that is at least partially pre-sold. Take a chance Hollywood, be original.
The same goes for endless sequels. Enough already. If F&F was meant to go on and on you could make it a syndicated series on tv. Make it into another of those fake reality shows.

Inked_Ghandi · February 03, 2012, 12:32:45 PM

I also agree with you on the Gone in 60 Seconds being a good remake. Well I have not seen the original but i heard it was better. As for the F&F series, I always enjoyed them. Yes they need to stop now but growing up it was more seeing what was out there and how people took a similar item and made it their own. While ruining it at the same time because ricers are stupid. Vin Diesel was the only one who knew the right cars to drive.

nvrbdn · February 03, 2012, 12:43:43 PM

i agree not to remake the old films. they always feel the need to add todays touch which changes the movie. ha ha, i wonder how "grand thieft auto" would turn out?

Inked_Ghandi · February 03, 2012, 12:47:43 PM

Grand Theft Auto would probably be based more on that horrible video game.

Cooter · February 03, 2012, 12:48:02 PM

See, what people can't seem to get their head around is the fact that all of the "So-called" Classics today were complete tanks when they came out. i can all but bet that most had the same "Bandwagon" statements about DMCL, VP, Easy Rider, Gone In 60 Seconds, etc. when they all came out. They were about no basic plot at all, very poor acting by mostly newbies to the silver screen, yet 30-40 years later, they are considered classics.

I feel the F&F movies will be considered cult classics in 25-30 years because of the musclecars.
I also feel remakes will almost NEVER do the original justice. Better off to do a sequel/prequel type thing.
To complain that a remake didn't do your favorite movie justice is about the same thing as sticking your hand in a snake pit and expecting not to get bitten. Never gonna happen.

At least the silver screen has finally realized that it's the classic Detroit iron that brings in the ricers as well as the old skoolers.

On the other hand, if Hollyweird tried to bring out a basic car guy movie with an actual story line, it too would tank as you and I would be the only ones in the audience. Remember the Vanishing Point remake in 1997? I thought it was as good as the original, but better in the storyline dept. Lots of folks didn't because today's movie going public could care less as long as there's some bimbo's t*ts hanging out, gettin' banged in full view, a cussword ever other word, lots of NOS (Pronounced NOS, instead of N....O.....S), and the ricer type cars with those stupid grapefruit launcher exhaust pipes.

Ghoste · February 03, 2012, 12:50:38 PM

I'm not talking about remakes of my favorites, I think I pretty much lambasted them all. For example, I didn't like the Brady Bunch when it was new, didn't get any better when it became a movie. The list goes on and on for me where remakes are concerned.

projectanimal · February 03, 2012, 12:59:57 PM

I agree that most of the movie remakes or TV shows turned into movies have not been the best. I did however think that the latest A-TEAM was done well and the Italian Job.

nvrbdn · February 03, 2012, 01:02:51 PM

i havent seen that a-team yet. need to put it on my list.

Inked_Ghandi · February 03, 2012, 01:04:50 PM

The A-Team wasn't bad. Had it's comical moments.

4cruzin · February 03, 2012, 01:29:16 PM

One of the worst I have seen lately was the green hornet . . the remake was terrible . . .

Inked_Ghandi · February 03, 2012, 01:31:00 PM

I think I am too young. I didn't realize there was an original green hornet. But yes that movie was bad.

projectanimal · February 03, 2012, 01:52:46 PM

Do you guys remember years ago when they tried to make a Smokey and the Bandit TV series with a younger crew?? they used a Mitsubishi as the Bandit car!

WTF..... the only thing it had going for it was it was black!

thankfully i believe 4 people tuned in to see it and it was canceled quickly..

nvrbdn · February 03, 2012, 02:58:03 PM

good thing

nvrbdn · February 03, 2012, 02:59:05 PM

when i was a kid i loved hearing the green hornet on the radio. that was a cool show. every sunday morning on the way to church we would listen to it.

Old Moparz · February 03, 2012, 03:22:14 PM

Quote from: 4cruzin on February 03, 2012, 01:29:16 PM
One of the worst I have seen lately was the green hornet . . the remake was terrible . . .

Dave, you're 100% right, it was awful. I gave it a shot since it was on HBO recently & I think I lasted 15 minutes with it before I decided that the infomercial with the woman wearing spandex for some salt shaker exercise machine was more entertaining.

maxwellwedge · February 03, 2012, 05:51:04 PM

Vanishing Point - Killed it.

I liked both Gone in 60 seconds. What Toby did (everything) in the original was pretty darned cool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gone_in_60_seconds

nvrbdn · February 03, 2012, 06:08:07 PM

i remember seeing that original gone in 60 seconds mustang a couple times on display. it was smashed up pretty good.

maxwellwedge · February 03, 2012, 06:17:37 PM

Oh Yeah!

moparstuart · February 06, 2012, 02:27:45 PM

Quote from: maxwellwedge on February 03, 2012, 05:51:04 PM
Vanishing Point - Killed it.

I liked both Gone in 60 seconds. What Toby did (everything) in the original was pretty darned cool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gone_in_60_seconds

toby was crazy , no budget using real locations and having crashes in public on public roads !!!!!!!!!!

maxwellwedge · February 06, 2012, 05:52:16 PM

I think he did a lot more than Nicolas Cage did...for sure!

RTDaddy · February 06, 2012, 06:24:30 PM

Quote from: projectanimal on February 03, 2012, 01:52:46 PM
Do you guys remember years ago when they tried to make a Smokey and the Bandit TV series with a younger crew?? they used a Mitsubishi as the Bandit car! WTF..... the only thing it had going for it was it was black! thankfully i believe 4 people tuned in to see it and it was canceled quickly..

Never knew about this one.

Glad I was not one of the 4.

"IF YOU'RE UNDER CONTROL, YOU AIN'T GOING FAST ENOUGH."

Kern Dog · February 07, 2012, 12:10:11 AM

I hadn't heard about the Bandit TV show either.....
I've wondered why there was no Vanishing Point remake once the new Challengers came out. The 1997 version with Viggo was annoying. He mumbles too much and had minimal charisma. The stunts were minimal. ONE jump? He cleared maybe 2 1/2 feet. I've done better and driven away damage free.
The 2005 DUKES movie had the best car stunts of any modern movie. DRIFTING that Charger on the wet roundabout while other cars were pacing alongside? AMAZING! I think that regarding the PLOT though..... I didn't like how they reversed the comic interaction of Boss Hogg and Rosco. TV had it right. The Dukes had some humorous moments but Boss and Rosco provided the laughs. Burt Beynolds is about as funny as a rubber crutch, so there was no way a traditional version true to the series could have been done with Burt.
The 2000 remake of GONE was a remarkable improvement in terms of acting and scene continuity. The Mustang jump on the bridge was a pathetic joke though. A crayola drawing displays the same level of scene quality as the CGI did.

Fred · February 07, 2012, 12:32:34 AM

Quote from: Inked_Ghandi on February 03, 2012, 12:32:45 PM
I also agree with you on the Gone in 60 Seconds being a good remake. Well I have not seen the original but i heard it was better. As for the F&F series, I always enjoyed them. Yes they need to stop now but growing up it was more seeing what was out there and how people took a similar item and made it their own. While ruining it at the same time because ricers are stupid. Vin Diesel was the only one who knew the right cars to drive.

I agree the Gone in 60 remake is pretty good but I have to say, in my opinion, the car chase from the original version is heaps better.

Fred · February 07, 2012, 12:36:34 AM

Quote from: nvrbdn on February 03, 2012, 01:02:51 PM
i havent seen that a-team yet. need to put it on my list.

Geez I was just going to say the same thingyou did until I read your comment Jim. No need now as you beat me to it.

projectanimal · February 07, 2012, 09:48:03 AM

I found the year of the Smokey TV series (1994) and this website to check out on other Movies. http://www.automopedia.org/2009/03/05/car-movies-hollywood-has-remade-but-shouldnt-have/

I agree that the latest Duke Movie had some really good stunt driving and if you haven't seen the bonus features on the DVD, check them out. they show how they launched the cars onto the freeway and the drifting! Pretty cool stuff.

projectanimal · February 10, 2012, 03:55:33 PM

I happened to see The Green Hornet again last night and noticed during the first time he's sitting in his fathers car listening to the record player and drinking, they pan outside the car in the garage and next to him is a 69' Red charger!

only for a few seconds, but wish they showed that car a little more!

Iceyone · February 10, 2012, 10:44:30 PM

I think they should remake all the drivers ed movies the had in 1976. Chargers everywhere in them!!!

redgum78 · February 11, 2012, 12:25:21 AM

I am going to step a foot out of line and say that I prefer most of the remakes to the originals. They have a better acting and better story lines IMO and make for better overall movies. The originals do have better and more raw footage of the classic cars and chases so they win out here. DMCL and Vanishing point have horrible acting and very basic story lines. I still enjoyed these movies but if it was not for iconic cars in them they would have been forgoten about years ago.

Fred · February 11, 2012, 12:35:47 AM

Same as "Finish Line' but the cars are a sight for sore eyes.

aussiemuscle · February 12, 2012, 11:38:27 PM

I think all those attempts to re-ignite Knight Rider were flops. (including both 'team knight rider' and the recent remake).

Gone in 60 seconds. the remake was a better movie, but a worse 'car movie'. if you combined them, you'd end up with a fantastic movie

There's a few that need to be remade, but i can't think of them off the top of my head.

Quote from: Ghoste on February 03, 2012, 12:29:24 PM
If F&F was meant to go on and on you could make it a syndicated series on tv.

If you think F&F was original, think again
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTMzMDc3NTQ4MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTI3Njk5._V1._SX335_SY475_.jpg

1955! (actually, plot is different, only shares the same title).

Fred · February 13, 2012, 12:53:02 AM

Quote from: aussiemuscle on February 12, 2012, 11:38:27 PM
I think all those attempts to re-ignite Knight Rider were flops. (including both 'team knight rider' and the recent remake).

You can say that again, they were terrible. Kid's shows providing kids watch that kind of stuff these days.

Inked_Ghandi · February 13, 2012, 08:10:27 AM

I will admit that I found that Knight Rider TV movie thing quite enjoyable.

Fred · February 14, 2012, 12:30:32 AM

Quote from: Inked_Ghandi on February 13, 2012, 08:10:27 AM
I will admit that I found that Knight Rider TV movie thing quite enjoyable.

to each his own.

ODZKing · March 03, 2012, 12:02:21 AM

Hey, for those interested the movie "Duel" featuring the Valiant vs. the Peterbuilt is on Cinemax this and next month AND also on On-Demand.

3/5, 3/8, 4/15, 4/20, 4/26, 4/29

aussiemuscle · March 03, 2012, 03:41:34 AM

Quote from: Inked_Ghandi on February 03, 2012, 12:32:45 PM
I also agree with you on the Gone in 60 Seconds being a good remake. Well I have not seen the original but i heard it was better.

better acting and story, not better is the car chases. what do you want from a movie?

Quote from: Inked_Ghandi
Grand Theft Auto would probably be based more on that horrible video game.

GTA is a GREAT game. best open world driving game around.

nvrbdn · March 03, 2012, 09:35:17 PM

while we are talking movies, there was a movie i saw years ago.......and im not young, so i mean years ago at a drive in. in the movie this guy has a camaro 67-69 fixed up. he hangs at a car hop place like a rootbeer stand. the song playing is the song "welcome back my friends to the show that never ends were so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside" and at the end of that song, the camaro does a big burn out. whats the name of this movie?

1974dodgecharger · March 04, 2012, 05:59:03 AM

well the fast and furiuos is a remake believe it not from a long time ago fast and furious original almost same plot, but the remake changed some things around such as brian the cop instead of being the so called DOM, etc.....

Kern Dog · March 05, 2012, 02:06:34 AM

i like moviex cuz they are fun i like to go to the theater too most movies from the sixties are okay but slow moving todays movies move along faster but often have too much CGI.....
Isn't THAT annoying to read? I know that nobody wants to be insulted, and nobody likes to have their grammar corrected, but come on, people! A few typos are okay . A run on sentence happens to the best of us. It's just very disappointing when some here combine every bad grammar habit in one post. You know that you can do better. SOME members will overlook your posts and avoid helping you if your typing skills are terrible.

cavemanno1 · March 05, 2012, 02:33:56 AM

I wouldn't say it's annoying but you got a point there,i think!
My second language is English and i always make sure i have not made a terrible mistake!Since we have the"spell check"it's pretty easy to correct your mistake!However you know what will happen next,won't you because this is a

and been down that road too many times!

If it annoys you just ignore it but pointing out someone's mistake isn't wise!You don't know his circumstances,maybe worked 14 hours,but then why aren't he resting then

,or has reading disabilities!I'm not saying he has because i don't know him but don't judge people!If it was a whole book like that i would say it's pretty annoying but it was a few sentenses put together!

Be happy your English is better and start a thread on the off topic discussion for English improvement!I'm not making fun of you i swear!I would like to improve my English so if you start that thread with choosing the right grammar,words or expressions questions i will be the first one to try to do it!

I even would thank you for helping me to get my English better!

To be and let to be!

Back to the topic!

Thanks,
Peter

Fred · March 05, 2012, 03:04:57 AM

Quote from: ODZKing on March 03, 2012, 12:02:21 AM
Hey, for those interested the movie "Duel" featuring the Valiant vs. the Peterbuilt is on Cinemax this and next month AND also on On-Demand.
3/5, 3/8, 4/15, 4/20, 4/26, 4/29

I've got it on dvd. It's one the wife enjoys.

Fred · March 05, 2012, 03:09:49 AM

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on March 04, 2012, 05:59:03 AM
well the fast and furiuos is a remake believe it not from a long time ago fast and furious original almost same plot, but the remake changed some things around such as brian the cop instead of being the so called DOM, etc.....

Hey, I'd forgotten all about that........... 1955 with John Ireland and Dorothy Malone.

Kern Dog · March 05, 2012, 02:59:00 PM

Caveman, you did fine. I fully understood what you wrote and I hope to read from you in the future. You set a good example for the rest of us.

JT01 · March 05, 2012, 08:08:23 PM

I heard they are going to do a Fall Guy movie. Maybe heard from this site. I really like that show

Kern Dog · March 06, 2012, 02:42:53 AM

I wished that they would release MORE seasons of the Fall Guy TV show. I have the first season and thats it. Its a little campy and dated, but I had great memories of the show from my youth.

Inked_Ghandi · March 07, 2012, 07:42:43 PM

I recently watched the movie drive and there was a of mopars. Still can't figure out what he was driving though.l

aussiemuscle · March 07, 2012, 10:11:18 PM

Quote from: nvrbdn on March 03, 2012, 09:35:17 PM
while we are talking movies, there was a movie i saw years ago.......and im not young, so i mean years ago at a drive in. in the movie this guy has a camaro 67-69 fixed up. he hangs at a car hop place like a rootbeer stand. the song playing is the song "welcome back my friends to the show that never ends were so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside" and at the end of that song, the camaro does a big burn out. whats the name of this movie?

Aloha Bobby & Rose?

otherwise, is it here?
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&sortBy=4&make=Chevrolet&model=Camaro&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on

Fred · March 07, 2012, 11:15:34 PM

Quote from: Inked_Ghandi on March 07, 2012, 07:42:43 PM
I recently watched the movie drive and there was a of mopars. Still can't figure out what he was driving though.l

I'm watching it tonight.

Kern Dog · March 07, 2012, 11:42:01 PM

Drive? Don't bother... UNless you have insomnia and haven't had luck with any OTHER remedy.

Fred · March 08, 2012, 12:26:44 AM

Quote from: Red 70 R/T 493 on March 07, 2012, 11:42:01 PM
Drive? Don't bother... UNless you have insomnia and haven't had luck with any OTHER remedy.

Oh no, The wife's already brought it home from the rental shop and we were really looking forward to it.

Watched "In Time" last night because I heard there were Challengers in it.................disappointing!

Kern Dog · March 08, 2012, 12:58:15 AM

My assessment of 'Drive": I expected it to be a car guy movie. It sorta WAS, but it moved waaaaaaaaaay too slow for me. At the 45 minute mark, I was really expecting something to start happening, but the car stuff was minimal. The violence was extreme.
TWO car chases, and one was in a rental fleet Impala....Yipee !!!

Fred · March 08, 2012, 01:02:31 AM

It looked action packed in the trailer. Oh well lets see if I can get through it before nodding off in my chair.

Mike DC · March 08, 2012, 04:24:40 AM

"Drive" was a blatant throwback to gritty 1980's action movies. The cheap violent R-rated stuff from before Jerry Bruckheimer softened & glamorized the genre.

It had some strong moments but it suffered from a bit of the Tarantino Deathproof problem. The director seemed to be pushing the limits of the mainstream viewer's attention span just for the sake of doing it.

Fred · March 08, 2012, 04:29:52 PM

Wasn't to bad. I got through it without nodding off. I've seen worse.
Wouldn't watch it again though...........once was enough.

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