Wheeler Dealers

[Hemidog]

Here's some entertainment for y'all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1YWEj_D0o

It's refreshing to see a car program you can actually see what they are doing, and without product placement and stupid jokes...

[bakerhillpins]

I like WD. Good show. Was nice to see them take on a Charger.   

[nvrbdn]

and the 57 4 door turned out fantastic also. i like the show.

[41husk]

First time i had seen the show.  I loved it!!!

[Paul G]

Once the spanners are out and the niggly bits are sorted, lol.

[moparstuart]

they did a jensen interceptor last night that came with a chrysler 440 in it
Man that thing must scream !!!!   

 

[67Charger440]

I watch it on occasion, and I saw the Jensen last night...  Decent show, and refreshingly void of "So now we're going to grab the new power-whatzit from who-cares, because it just makes it so easy to  ______.  You know, lets take a minute to check out the new thingamajig from so'n'no.  They've done a great job, and now you can just bolt on the entire (half of car) and be better than new.  Oh, by the way, there's a car around here somewhere..."  Generally these guys buy a decent runner, clean up the paint/body, do the safety "bits", and give it a good tune-up and seem to average about a 10 - 20% profit margin out an almost realistic cost tally.

[Gregory]

Agreed, great show. Its funny how much you notice the lack of product placement, its sad really. but good job with the Charger!!

[Budnicks]

They really do a decent job, I'm suprized how they can make any money taking them all the way from the US to England...  I guess they have a stronger lower end market for theses cars.... Their accents & car slang is kind of hard to follow at times though, like Car=Motor  Spanner=Wrench  Boot=Trunk  Bodgy=Bad & many others, too many to list... Entertaining metrosexual guys

[71green go]

Thanks for posting!...I watched it at work during lunch...made my day much nicer!
steve

[Paul G]

They don't include any labor costs. If you figured that in, how much would they actually be making on any of them? I think it is geared more for the do-it-your-selfer, guys like us. We can take an old car and make it respectable again.

I used to do what they are doing. I worked shift work in a steel mill. Had my days free, worked week ends, had two days off during the week. I had plenty of time to chase down "dodgy motors". Drag em home, repair and detail. Drive em for a few months and then "sell on for a profit". I "shifted" lots of cars there for a while. Always drove something different, and I kept myself occupied. Maybe that's why I like watching that show so much. 

[Paul G]

Oh, and that slang they use does get catchy!

[Budnicks]

Oh, and that slang they use does get catchy!

[Darkman]

They don't include any labor costs. If you figured that in, how much would they actually be making on any of them? I think it is geared more for the do-it-your-selfer, guys like us. We can take an old car and make it respectable again.

I used to do what they are doing. I worked shift work in a steel mill. Had my days free, worked week ends, had two days off during the week. I had plenty of time to chase down "dodgy motors". Drag em home, repair and detail. Drive em for a few months and then "sell on for a profit". I "shifted" lots of cars there for a while. Always drove something different, and I kept myself occupied. Maybe that's why I like watching that show so much. 

Paul, you are spot on...It is aimed for the average guy showing them how to buy, redo and on sell cars. That is why they don't factor in labour costs. They do highlight the "tricky bits" that the average backyarder can't do themselves and give them a guideline on the costs if a workshop did it.

I like the show also. It gives us a bit more confidence to tackle the smaller jobs ourselves

[cavemanno1]

they made no money on that charger!they didn't include the labor cost,plain ticket,car hire,hotel and time!they say they made a 850pounds profit but without counting all the other costs i just listed!plus two of them spending all that time with the car looking at it and fixing her up for 400quid?unlikely but maybe it's just me!
now here in Europe everyone thinks that 20000pound sterling get you a immaculate charger!Hell these cars start around that price tag!they sold it for 20k so it would be sold quick!IMO
as someone said in the earlier thread about the same topic,these guys do it for the show and not so much for the profit!i mean they get payed doing the show!
they never said if it was an original 4speed or not!would be a nice car neverless if it was a '69 !

[NHCharger]

Thought it was entertaining. The guy at Hidden Valley Auto Parts poked him pretty good on the parts.

[Back N Black]

Loved the show, did you see the quarter mile times? first run 18 +,second run 17+. They were excited with the speed! 

[nvrbdn]

yea, they thought they were really kicking it.

[TUFCAT]

Thought it was entertaining. The guy at Hidden Valley Auto Parts poked him pretty good on the parts.

  ... no "wheelin dealin" there! 

[bobs66440]

they did a jensen interceptor last night that came with a chrysler 440 in it
Man that thing must scream !!!!   

 

I just finished watching that one. I thought they sold it cheap though...

[Brass]

Thought it was entertaining. The guy at Hidden Valley Auto Parts poked him pretty good on the parts.

 ... no "wheelin dealin" there!  

Yeah, what a piece work that guy was.  I thought: Let me get this straight... This guy is on TV with the host of a show called Wheelin' Dealin', he's getting free publicity for his business, and he won't give the guy a deal.  Not even a friendly, token discount on parts I thought were priced high to begin with.  To me, it made him look cheap and miserly rather than a hard negotiator.  Also seemed like a good way to alienate any potential customers who were watching.

[Dino]

I noticed the car didn't have upper door pads.  Does this mean it's a base model?  Not too familiar with the '70 specs.  

These guys never complained about th ebrakes though so I guess the discs really do their thing.

Although the long shackles looked a bit dated, I love the stance of the car before they put the original shackles on.

Oh and I guess I hadn't seen the show in a while, Mike got a bit 'rounder' there!

[nh_mopar_fan]

Been watching this show for a while.

There have been a few shows where they end up netting a couple hundred pounds on a car and I think to myself, "Really? After all that?"

[six-tee-nine]

In the end its still television so maybe the profit is not all that big deal....

[aussiemuscle]

it's funny i've watched it from series one, the budget for the initial outlay has gone from £500 at the start to latest series £8,000. i guess it got too hard to get cheap cars 

t... Entertaining metrosexual guys

not metro, british (similar i know, but not the same thing).

[Budnicks]

Loved the show, did you see the quarter mile times? first run 18 +,second run 17+. They were excited with the speed! 

Yep they are some  No driven Ivans      ... Should have been in the 14's or 15's at near 100mph, they had to be babying it...

[Darkman]

Oh they most definitely were.

You have to remember, these guys are from the UK and 7.2L is the volume of the entire car they usually drive let alone the engine displacement 

[Paul G]

Any one see the episode where they did a Frogeye Sprite? Something just doesn't make sense to me. Ed had the front suspension apart for a brake conversion, pulled the engine and trans for a color change repaint, but didn't bother to clean off any of the grime and crud on the drivetrain or suspension. Just doesn't make sense to spend that much effort on a build and not clean things up before they go back together. Great looking car till you open the hood and see that gloppy lump sitting in there. I wonder if that is the norm over there?

[surmanajaja]

thanx for the link, downloaded and watched. i have watched earlier seasons where they played with e30 325 and 84-85 vette.. I enjoyed the episode, car looked real nice for the money..but the ending..come on, 18 seconds on the quarter with bb and 4-speed?? I did 16 flat in my STOCK 289 -2barrel automatic 3.00 peg-leg -rear stang...and that was depressigly slow to me.hell, my 65 99cid bug did 18 on the quarter....low 15s would be ok I guess..but 18 seconds..wow

[Budnicks]

Any one see the episode where they did a Frogeye Sprite? Something just doesn't make sense to me. Ed had the front suspension apart for a brake conversion, pulled the engine and trans for a color change repaint, but didn't bother to clean off any of the grime and crud on the drivetrain or suspension. Just doesn't make sense to spend that much effort on a build and not clean things up before they go back together. Great looking car till you open the hood and see that gloppy lump sitting in there. I wonder if that is the norm over there?

"Yep" ,   I've noticed the same thing, I've seen the same thing on many episodes now, they don't clean the grime off of anything, unless they do it after they are done withe the mechanical stuff, or maybe even before they sell them or something not shown on camera...

[moparstuart]

Any one see the episode where they did a Frogeye Sprite? Something just doesn't make sense to me. Ed had the front suspension apart for a brake conversion, pulled the engine and trans for a color change repaint, but didn't bother to clean off any of the grime and crud on the drivetrain or suspension. Just doesn't make sense to spend that much effort on a build and not clean things up before they go back together. Great looking car till you open the hood and see that gloppy lump sitting in there. I wonder if that is the norm over there?

"Yep" ,   I've noticed the same thing, I've seen the same thing on many episodes now, they don't clean the grime off of anything, unless they do it after they are done withe the mechanical stuff, or maybe even before they sell them or something not shown on camera...

I know at least steam clean the motors , but no they dont even do that  .

[Budnicks]

I glad to see, I'm not the only person it bugged,  to see some remove a part, then re-install the same dirty part or a new or different part & not even clean, let alone repaint them... Maybe parts are like teeth over there, they just don't care to clean them... Sorry I had to do that...

[Paul G]

I glad to see, I'm not the only person it bugged,  to see some remove a part, then re-install the same dirty part or a new or different part & not even clean, let alone repaint them... Maybe parts are like teeth over there, they just don't care to clean them... Sorry I had to do that...

  Maybe it is something like that.

As for the dismal quarter mile times, they must not be familier with an American 4 speed and granny shifted all the way down the track.

[Budnicks]

I was kind of thinking that England/UK is a pretty liberal country, lots of silly, stupid & over the top automotive type laws, maybe they have some type of laws that prohibit the washing or steam cleaning of parts or some EPA type govt. related, over the top rules, that makes it cost prohibitive to have a parts washer or steam cleaner, with out some over the top equipment &/or costs, or have to have an oil separator, like they make automotive dealership use, if your a business setting or something... Just a thought...

[Inked_Ghandi]

I've seen that show a few times. Not a big fan. I like the DIY aspect of it but other than that i just felt like i was wasting my time sitting in front of the tv.

[BigBlockSam]

great show , Ed's the man . good mechanic too and i love the way he talks 

[Ponch ®]

It's the little things that are worth paying attention to. I'm thinking of the Delorean episode. The rear louver was broken in one corner...so Ed showed an (almost) step by step on how to fix it with fiberglass.

[moparstuart]

It's the little things that are worth paying attention to. I'm thinking of the Delorean episode. The rear louver was broken in one corner...so Ed showed an (almost) step by step on how to fix it with fiberglass.

   he didnt fix it , he got it sorted 

[Ponch ®]

It's the little things that are worth paying attention to. I'm thinking of the Delorean episode. The rear louver was broken in one corner...so Ed showed an (almost) step by step on how to fix it with fiberglass.

   he didnt fix it , he got it sorted 

you mean he "goh et so-ehd"

[aussiemuscle]

I was kind of thinking that England/UK is a pretty liberal country, lots of silly, stupid & over the top automotive type laws, maybe they have some type of laws that prohibit the washing or steam cleaning of parts or some EPA type govt. related, over the top rules, that makes it cost prohibitive to have a parts washer or steam cleaner, with out some over the top equipment &/or costs, or have to have an oil separator, like they make automotive dealership use, if your a business setting or something... Just a thought...

You could be describing australia. we aren't even allowed to drive Left-hand-drive cars, unless they are 30 years old AND on a special restricted club registration (plate). i remember an episode of American Hot Rod where they had to mod the lights on an El Camino so he could take it to his home country. it had all sorts of odd light configurations. we're like that.


I think Ed steam cleaned the engine on the Mini, but i could be mistaken.

[Domino]

I noticed the car didn't have upper door pads.  Does this mean it's a base model?  Not too familiar with the '70 specs.  

Yeah, it looked like the base model below the 500(middle of the line) with no door pads and no tailpanel trim + carry over of the 69 taillights with trim.  I like the base model look on a black '70 only (well, a very dark color might be OK too), cause with any other light/bright color the tailpanel being 100% car color looks a bit off.

Cool car, bare bones 383 4speed pistol, no console or other fancy stuff.

[Dino]

I noticed the car didn't have upper door pads.  Does this mean it's a base model?  Not too familiar with the '70 specs.  

Yeah, it looked like the base model below the 500(middle of the line) with no door pads and no tailpanel trim + carry over of the 69 taillights with trim.  I like the base model look on a black '70 only (well, a very dark color might be OK too), cause with any other light/bright color the tailpanel being 100% car color looks a bit off.

Cool car, bare bones 383 4speed pistol, no console or other fancy stuff.

Cool, thanks for clearing that up. 
I agree the tailpanel would look weird in a lighter color.  It sure was a nice ride, I love the stance it had before Edd put the stock spring brackets on. 

[Magnumcharger]

I thought it strange when the guy was removing the front disc brakes, he stated that we wasn't happy because this meant he had to bleed the brakes afterwards...
Which means he disconnected the brake line. Why? The caliper can easily be lifted off the rotor and moved aside.

A weird way to do things!

[Paul G]

And they drive on the wrong side of the road too.

[FastbackJon]

Neat episode. Funny hearing a british guy saying "put the hamma down". Also thought those guys leaned on and touched the cars too much. You don't just walk in a guys garage, lift the hood of a vehicle, put your hand right on the top of both chrome air cleaners and then shut the hood and walk off.

It didn't look like he packed the wheel bearings either, just spread some grease on the outside.

And if he wanted to get 20,000 pounds for it, why did he list it for that? Shouldn't he know better?

[FastbackJon]

He could have gotten the headlight motor, ps pump and stock shackles all new, why even bother with 40-year old junkyard parts?

The junkyard owner wanted $35 each for used stock shackles when you can get new ones at NAPA for about $30 with all new bushings.

But I guess you wouldn't be "wheelin-dealin" if you bought all your replacement parts new.

[FastbackJon]

Loved the show, did you see the quarter mile times? first run 18 +,second run 17+. They were excited with the speed! 

When I took my stock '66 318 2bbl automatic Charger with 2.92 gears to the track, and just left it in drive, it ran just over 18 seconds in the 1/4.

[aussiemuscle]

And they drive on the wrong side of the road too.

no, we drive on the RIGHT, you drive on the WRONG

[BananaDan]

Anyone watch the Land Rover episode tonight?  I really liked the gunmetal grey color they sprayed it, it would look good on a resto-mod Charger IMO.

[Budnicks]

Anyone watch the Land Rover episode tonight?  I really liked the gunmetal grey color they sprayed it, it would look good on a resto-mod Charger IMO.

Yes that darker grey color was great, the bight silver pieces on the grill & light surrounds & the black powder coated aluminum plate stuff helped set it off... I looked way better... IMHO That would be a great color on a Charger...