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'68 383 4-barrel 4-speed sold on Mecum 1-29-12 - $37,000

Started by Dans 68, January 30, 2012, 02:08:00 AM

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Ryan

#25
January 31, 2012, 04:47:06 PM
I think someone got a nice car for a good price. Granted maybe it's not OE gold status but so what? Looks to be a very nice restoration and I don't think one could go out and buy a 383 4 speed car and restore it for less than this one sold for.
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BrianShaughnessy

#26
January 31, 2012, 05:00:45 PM
Looks a bit over restored to me...  not to mention the extras already picked at.    Glossy painted undercarriages weren't factory  :icon_smile_wink:

But $37K is probably a break even point on decent resto like this on a base model.    If it was a restored R/T and you picked it up at that price you'd have a steal.
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Troy

#27
January 31, 2012, 05:03:23 PM
Quote from: Ryan on January 31, 2012, 04:47:06 PM
Looks to be a very nice restoration and I don't think one could go out and buy a 383 4 speed car and restore it for less than this one sold for.
No. But it's unlikely you could restore one and sell it for that price either. I think the price was high for this market. I'd be happy as a seller (unless I had just put $50k into it!). I don't think the buyer made out terribly either as there aren't a lot of really clean cars out there. It's a popular color combination and it seems like everyone adds the stripes so neither of those hurt.

Troy
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bill440rt

#28
January 31, 2012, 08:06:07 PM
Quote from: Ryan on January 31, 2012, 04:47:06 PM
I think someone got a nice car for a good price. Granted maybe it's not OE gold status but so what? Looks to be a very nice restoration and I don't think one could go out and buy a 383 4 speed car and restore it for less than this one sold for.


I agree 100%, Ryan.  :yesnod:
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Dans 68

#29
January 31, 2012, 08:15:33 PM
Remember, out of the 80,000 plus XP's made in 1968, only "333" were 4-speeds. And that breaks down further to "259" 383 4-bbl's and "74" 2-barrels. Rarer than the much coveted Daytonas.  :yesnod:

Oh, wait, Curtis is going with a 4-bbl in his...so make that "260" 4-bbl's and "73" 2-bbl's.  ;)

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

bull

#30
February 01, 2012, 12:06:15 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on January 31, 2012, 08:15:33 PM
Remember, out of the 80,000 plus XP's made in 1968, only "333" were 4-speeds. And that breaks down further to "259" 383 4-bbl's and "74" 2-barrels. Rarer than the much coveted Daytonas.  :yesnod:

Oh, wait, Curtis is going with a 4-bbl in his...so make that "260" 4-bbl's and "73" 2-bbl's.  ;)

Dan

Yea, I'm going to hammer those numbers flat on the fender tag too. :nana:

resq302

#31
February 01, 2012, 09:22:54 AM
Nice car but like others said, a few incorrect things that could be changed back.    :scratchchin: :scratchchin:  Kinda makes me wonder what I could get for my 69 383 4 bbl 4 spd car.    :scratchchin:
Brian
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1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

richRTSE

#32
February 01, 2012, 10:19:33 AM
Quote from: Dans 68 on January 31, 2012, 08:15:33 PM
Remember, out of the 80,000 plus XP's made in 1968, only "333" were 4-speeds. And that breaks down further to "259" 383 4-bbl's and "74" 2-barrels. Rarer than the much coveted Daytonas.  :yesnod:


259?? Thats alot more than they made of 4-speed 4-bbl Daytonas.... :icon_smile_big:


I see they added stiffening plates to the lower controls arms..... :scope:

Ghoste

#33
February 01, 2012, 10:25:03 AM
Rare does not always equal desirable.  Look at the production numbers for 66-67 and then the value guides.   I have a 67 with a factory vinyl top, factory disc brakes, and a factory "recall" steering wheel.  It's a rare car but worth no more really than any other 67, and that ain't much.

bull

#34
February 01, 2012, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on February 01, 2012, 10:25:03 AM
Rare does not always equal desirable.

In this case it does. It may not be as desireable as a Hemi car or R/T but you can safely bet a 2nd gen Charger with a big block and a 4 speed is right in line right behind those. Add to that the rarity and in many people's minds it becomes a toss up. I would wager that to those who know and love these cars, a 383/4 speed is probably evenly popular with an R/T 440/auto.

Troy

#35
February 01, 2012, 12:46:37 PM
Quote from: bull on February 01, 2012, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on February 01, 2012, 10:25:03 AM
Rare does not always equal desirable.

In this case it does. It may not be as desireable as a Hemi car or R/T but you can safely bet a 2nd gen Charger with a big block and a 4 speed is right in line right behind those. Add to that the rarity and in many people's minds it becomes a toss up. I would wager that to those who know and love these cars, a 383/4 speed is probably evenly popular with an R/T 440/auto.
Well, I know and love 68 Chargers! However, I've had opportunities in the past to pick up 383 4-speed cars yet I have a 440 R/T 4-speed in my garage instead. ;) I think if the price/quality is equivalent most people would grab the R/T. None are plentiful. The 383 cars were much more affordable which makes them a great choice. This car is getting into the range where it's competing with R/Ts.

Troy
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bull

#36
February 01, 2012, 12:56:56 PM
I agree that a 383/4spd is not going to be as popular as an R/T 440/4spd (what you chose) but that in many minds it is as popular as a R/T 440/auto.

Ghoste

#37
February 01, 2012, 01:03:24 PM
I disagree.  Just my  :Twocents: though.
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