Magnum 500 wheel question

[66FBCharger]

Are the factory Magnum 500/Road wheels hub centric or lug centric (for spin balancing)?

[wrench]

all wheels held by tapered lug nuts are stud centered(most auto). Hub centered wheels would be held by nuts with flat washers(HD trucks)

[b5blue]

Are the factory Magnum 500/Road wheels hub centric or lug centric (for spin balancing)?

I'm NOT finding any wheels on the aftermarket that are hub centric. Seems odd to me. 

[bull]

What I believe is that all wheels are lug centric but very few are balanced at the lugs like they should be. If you think about this concept for a second you soon realize that all wheels have to be lug centric. There's no other way to do it because the hub center on many wheels does not attach the wheel to the car. However, due to the way 99% of the wheels we buy are balanced, wheel manufacturers try to make the hub match the lugs. Make sense? When you buy wheels from an aftermarket place like Wheel Vintiques or Specialty they say the wheels are lug centric because, I assume, they don't want to try matching the hub to the lug mounting surface every single wheel they produce.

It's different when you're making 500,000 of the same wheel for Ford F150 and Expeditions or Camrys and what not. But when you're only making 10,000 wheels a year and most of them are different, you don't worry about such things.

[b5blue]

Right but the factory rims on both front and rear seat snugly to the hub center section also and that adds tremendous strength to the entire assembly. 

[bull]

Right. What are you getting at?

[b5blue]

The seemingly universal unavailability of aftermarket hub-centricity. Do you know of anyone making any?  (Until recently I wasn't aware of the general omission of that feature.)   

[471_Magnum]

Center registers are of differing diameter. Fords are smaller than Mopars. That means double the part numbers to go hub centric. Lug centric works just fine, so no aftermarket wheels will come hub centric.

Some will come with plastic insert hub adapters to make the center register fit snug. That's mostly late model stuff though.

[John_Kunkel]

Right. What are you getting at?

If the wheel center fits the axle hub snuggly the wheel is, by defintion, hub centric even if there are also tapered lug nuts.

Aftermarket wheel makers don't want to deal with the varying hub sizes on axles that have a common bolt pattern so they make the wheels lug centric.

[bull]

Perhaps someone should call Specialty and get their definition of the two terms.

[AirborneSilva]

Perhaps someone should call Specialty and get their definition of the two terms.

I nominate  you 

[bull]

Sure, I've talked to them dozens of times before. If I remember i'll cal them tomorrow.

[AirborneSilva]

See there, I knew I nominated the right guy 

[bull]

Yea, except I forgot to call them.