I wonder how they define the word super in India?

[bull]

First off, you socialists probably shouldn't read this because the link I got from my brother comes from Fox News. I'd hate to see you getting brainwashed and turning into red-state zombies while reading about a car.

Anyway, this Indian "supercar" comes with a whopping 240 hp produced by a 2.0-liter turbocharged Ford Focus engine. The concept of it sort of reminds me of the short-changed 6 cylinder Prowler except the Prowler looked pretty good.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/01/06/india-gets-its-first-supercar/?test=faces

[John_Kunkel]

Built on a space-frame chassis, the mid-engine Avanti is about the size of a Chevrolet Corvette,

Good thing Studebaker isn't still around. 

[RallyeMike]

How much HP do you need to reach 1.3KM top speed on the streets of New Dehli?

First off, you socialists probably shouldn't read this because the link I got from my brother comes from Fox News. I'd hate to see you getting brainwashed and turning into red-state zombies while reading about a car.

[bull]

Not sure but I guess the meaning of super is a relative term. If many of the cars made in your country look like the one below it doesn't take much to earn a supercar title. 

[mauve66]

considering the roads in that country, the owner will have to export it just to get it over 40 mph, the original avanti was different looking but that just looks ugly to me

[Ponch ®]

Its an interesting looking car...I wouldn't be so dismissive of it without knowing more about it (power to weight ratio?). Remember that Vettes in the 80's had engines with less than 200HP, and by the same token, those lilttle Lotus Elise cars have the same engines as a Toyota Corolla but will blow the doors off a lot of cars with higher HP engines.

[bull]

Remember that Vettes in the 80's had engines with less than 200HP.

Yea, and they sucked.

[Ponch ®]

Remember that Vettes in the 80's had engines with less than 200HP.

Yea, and they sucked.

that's what Im saying...the Vette has been considered (by some) the American super car, even though for a long time it sucked.

[bull]

Remember that Vettes in the 80's had engines with less than 200HP.

Yea, and they sucked.

that's what Im saying...the Vette is considered (by some) a super car, but for a long time it sucked.

The CAFE standard is was caused the low hp ratings in the 70s and 80s but what's the excuse for a supercar to start that way today? The technology has been there for years to create a lot more power from this size engine.

One redeeming quality with the vette though is that Chevy stuck with it and now there are thousands of "blank canvasses" guys can use to put real engines into. My brother has a 75 vette, which I believe was originally rated at 165 hp, but between 68 and 82 they all look very similar so when upgraded with a decent 350 you can have a screamer that still looks cool. I sometimes wish Dodge would have stuck with the same Charger body style between 68 and 82.

[PocketThunder]

Remember that Vettes in the 80's had engines with less than 200HP.

Yea, and they sucked.

that's what Im saying...the Vette is considered (by some) a super car, but for a long time it sucked.

The CAFE standard is was caused the low hp ratings in the 70s and 80s but what's the excuse for a supercar to start that way today? The technology has been there for years to create a lot more power from this size engine.

One redeeming quality with the vette though is that Chevy stuck with it and now there are thousands of "blank canvasses" guys can use to put real engines into. My brother has a 75 vette, which I believe was originally rated at 165 hp, but between 68 and 82 they all look very similar so when upgraded with a decent 350 you can have a screamer that still looks cool. I sometimes wish Dodge would have stuck with the same Charger body style between 68 and 82.

I think you mean 69-82.   

[Ponch ®]

Remember that Vettes in the 80's had engines with less than 200HP.

Yea, and they sucked.

that's what Im saying...the Vette is considered (by some) a super car, but for a long time it sucked.

The CAFE standard is was caused the low hp ratings in the 70s and 80s but what's the excuse for a supercar to start that way today? The technology has been there for years to create a lot more power from this size engine.

I guess my point is that high horsepower does not necessarily mean that the car will be fast. Engine management and transmission technology is pretty advanced nowadays, so they can make more with less hp. Hence why all the racerboys love those WRXs and Lancer Evos.

[bull]

Remember that Vettes in the 80's had engines with less than 200HP.

Yea, and they sucked.

that's what Im saying...the Vette is considered (by some) a super car, but for a long time it sucked.

The CAFE standard is was caused the low hp ratings in the 70s and 80s but what's the excuse for a supercar to start that way today? The technology has been there for years to create a lot more power from this size engine.

One redeeming quality with the vette though is that Chevy stuck with it and now there are thousands of "blank canvasses" guys can use to put real engines into. My brother has a 75 vette, which I believe was originally rated at 165 hp, but between 68 and 82 they all look very similar so when upgraded with a decent 350 you can have a screamer that still looks cool. I sometimes wish Dodge would have stuck with the same Charger body style between 68 and 82.

I think you mean 69-82.  

I do? Here's a 68 vette and an 82 vette, the start and end of the third generation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvette_(C3):

[Ponch ®]

Remember that Vettes in the 80's had engines with less than 200HP.

Yea, and they sucked.

that's what Im saying...the Vette is considered (by some) a super car, but for a long time it sucked.

The CAFE standard is was caused the low hp ratings in the 70s and 80s but what's the excuse for a supercar to start that way today? The technology has been there for years to create a lot more power from this size engine.

One redeeming quality with the vette though is that Chevy stuck with it and now there are thousands of "blank canvasses" guys can use to put real engines into. My brother has a 75 vette, which I believe was originally rated at 165 hp, but between 68 and 82 they all look very similar so when upgraded with a decent 350 you can have a screamer that still looks cool. I sometimes wish Dodge would have stuck with the same Charger body style between 68 and 82.

I think you mean 69-82.   

I do? Here's a 68 vette and an 82 vette:

I want a "Competition Orange" one, Dirk Diggler style.

[bull]

I guess my point is that high horsepower does not necessarily mean that the car will be fast. Engine management and transmission technology is pretty advanced nowadays, so they can make more with less hp. Hence why all the racerboys love those WRXs and Lancer Evos.

True, and in my mind a "supercar" would be something like what McLaren, Bugatti and Lamboghini produces. Something "very fast, with sporting handling to match." "It should be sleek and eye-catching" and its price should be "one in a rarefied atmosphere of its own," as described by Ian Ward. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercar

By Indian standards I guess a WRX would be a supercar.

[Ponch ®]

I guess my point is that high horsepower does not necessarily mean that the car will be fast. Engine management and transmission technology is pretty advanced nowadays, so they can make more with less hp. Hence why all the racerboys love those WRXs and Lancer Evos.

True, and in my mind a "supercar" would be something like what McLaren, Bugatti and Lamboghini produces. Something "very fast, with sporting handling to match." "It should be sleek and eye-catching" and its price should be "one in a rarefied atmosphere of its own," as described by Ian Ward. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercar

By Indian standards I guess a WRX would be a supercar.

I dont remember which TV show or magazine did it, but they ran an EVO (one of the higher end ones) around a test track and then one of the "supercars" (again, I dont remember which) and it beat it.

[bull]

Like asking a supermodel to run a 100 meter sprint? Yea, I've seen lots of "whatever" vs. "supercar" stories and videos and the results are all over the place. Generally though it seems the supercars are well rounded in acceleration, performance, handling, top speed, etc. Some cars can beat them in one or two areas but not often in all. All seem to beat them in price and mpg though.

[Vainglory, Esq.]

Does anybody else think it's a cheap-looking knockoff of the Ferrari Italia?  Like the designer took a look at it, then closed his eyes and sketched it out from memory?

[aussiemuscle]

I dont remember which TV show or magazine did it, but they ran an EVO (one of the higher end ones) around a test track and then one of the "supercars" (again, I dont remember which) and it beat it.

Top Gear UK
the top spec EVO 8 was faster than the murcielago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ees2aZcDUn8

[bull]

I dont remember which TV show or magazine did it, but they ran an EVO (one of the higher end ones) around a test track and then one of the "supercars" (again, I dont remember which) and it beat it.

Top Gear UK
the top spec EVO 8 was faster than the murcielago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ees2aZcDUn8

Wow, impressive. 175 mph top end. 400 horses. I wonder what kind of mpg you get when you're not rodding it?

[Ponch ®]

I dont remember which TV show or magazine did it, but they ran an EVO (one of the higher end ones) around a test track and then one of the "supercars" (again, I dont remember which) and it beat it.

Top Gear UK
the top spec EVO 8 was faster than the murcielago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ees2aZcDUn8

Wow, impressive. 175 mph top end. 400 horses. I wonder what kind of mpg you get when you're not rodding it?

Who knows, but probably something relatively decent. I guess what it comes down to is that in the end youre still just riding around in a Mitsubishi. But a Lambo, Ferrari, etc...now those cars have gravitas.

[Topher]

Wow, They're economy is BOOMING! Imagine what could happen if WE Americans answered our own damn phones!