California tells you when to change oil in your car...

[Silver R/T]

So Communist California is at it again, telling drivers when to change their oil now.
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/driving-green-means-not-changing-your-oil-until-you-need-to.html
What's next? Wipe with your hand to save toiled paper, maybe recycle toilet water and use it to cook and for drinking? 

[nvrbdn]

yea, and when you dont change the oil, the oil companies raise the price to pick up the slack from lack of sales.

[Budnicks]

As a born & raised Californian I & most people with any common sense, just ignore the tree hugging lib-tards & all there stupid ridiculous suggestions... It's not Californians, that's the problem, it's the socialists politicians...

[Silver R/T]

Some cars REQUIRE oil change at 3,000 as their oil passages are very tiny and turbo cars (Subaru) rely on clean oil flowing through turbo. There's way too many turbo cars, particularly turbo-charged Subarus with blown engines due to lack of oil changes.

[404NOTFOUND]

As a born & raised Californian I & most people with any common sense, just ignore the tree hugging lib-tards & all there stupid ridiculous suggestions... It's not Californians, that's the problem, it's the socialists politicians...

As a Canadian, I agree and share your pain. It's simply what happens when left wing, tree hugging pussies infiltrate government and try to force their agenda on everyone. I'm sure most Californians are of a normal mindset and can think for themselves. We here in Canada finally have a good government although I'm sure it is to late to undo decades of damage done by the lefties. I do change the oil with synthetic as little as possible on my new diesel Mercedes but, my Charger will get it's oil change whenever I feel it's needed. Now if only we can replace our provincial government.

[Ponch ®]

Some cars REQUIRE oil change at 3,000 as their oil passages are very tiny and turbo cars (Subaru) rely on clean oil flowing through turbo. There's way too many turbo cars, particularly turbo-charged Subarus with blown engines due to lack of oil changes.

did you even read the article?

a) California is not telling people not to change their oil every 3,000 miles. It's simply a publicity campaign along the same lines of "Dont waste water" and "Check your smoke detector battery". It is not a law or ordinance.

b) Some cars DO require changes every 3,000 miles and that why it says "...the ad campaign [is] to encourage owners to be aware of the recommended oil-change interval for their car."

[elacruze]

So Communist California is at it again, telling drivers when to change their oil now.
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/driving-green-means-not-changing-your-oil-until-you-need-to.html
What's next? Wipe with your hand to save toiled paper, maybe recycle toilet water and use it to cook and for drinking? 

I don't see a problem here? There is no legislation, and there doesn't seem to be any indication of enforcement. All I see is taxpayer's money spent on recommending the curbing of personal choice. 

[greenpigs]

I think Silver should have his man oil removed....

[PA Dodger]

You know, come to think of it, my Jeep tells me when the oil needs changed. I think it may be communist too.

[bordin34]

The website is wrong for my Saab. Saab recommends 10,000 miles, California says 7,500 miles.

[bordin34]

My mom's 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee, Jeep says 5,000, California says 3,000.

[RallyeMike]

did you even read the article?

a) California is not telling people not to change their oil every 3,000 miles. It's simply a publicity campaign along the same lines of "Dont waste water" and "Check your smoke detector battery". It is not a law or ordinance.

b) Some cars DO require changes every 3,000 miles and that why it says "...the ad campaign [is] to encourage owners to be aware of the recommended oil-change interval for their car."

Read.

Comprehend.

Post.

This is what Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and Air America have done to us. Why read and think for yourself when someone has done it for you?

I think Silver should have his man oil removed....

Ew!

[Old Moparz]

My mom's 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee, Jeep says 5,000, California says 3,000.

Funny, my Mom used to get the oil changed at intervals that weren't mileage based. When the rattling in the engine got louder than the radio, she'd add 4 to 5 quarts.  

And she got 245,000 miles out of an Olds she had with that maintenance schedule.  

[bull]

This is what Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and Air America have done to us. Why read and think for yourself when someone has done it for you?

So trite how the socialists sheeple are so quick to point fingers at a couple of radio talk shows and Fox in blame for half the nation not agreeing with them. So quick to question the intelligence of their fellow Americans and say they're easily led. Of course none of those on the other side of the fence never get any marching orders, right?

I don't listen to any talk shows and I don't have cable. There are many others I know who don't also. How is it that we haven't become socialists yet? Do you think if it weren't for Fox news and Limbaugh there would be no more resistance and we'd have turned D.C. into Kremlin West by now? Just because Silver is a dork doesn't mean Limbaugh has brainwashed 50% of the population.

[RallyeMike]

So trite how the socialists sheeple are so quick to point fingers at a couple of radio talk shows and Fox in blame for half the nation not agreeing with them. So quick to question the intelligence of their fellow Americans and say they're easily led. Of course none of those on the other side of the fence never get any marching orders, right? Roll Eyes

I don't listen to any talk shows and I don't have cable. There are many others I know who don't also. How is it that we haven't become socialists yet? Do you think if it weren't for Fox news and Limbaugh there would be no more resistance and we'd have turned D.C. into Kremlin West by now? Just because Silver is a dork doesn't mean Limbaugh has brainwashed 50% of the population.

You have mistakenly painted me blue.  If you would educate yourself on my reference to "Air America", you'd see that I am lambasting BOTH the right AND left drivel that exists in the media that has trained a nation to just automatically oppose instead of think.

As pointed out by another, clearly the author and posters within this thread have jumped to conclusions and began the typical rants about socialism etc etc without even reading the article or understanding what the CA program is. Bravo to Ponch for calling a duck a duck. What we see in this thread is pretty typical of the type of automatic programmed responses that blathering talk radio and slanted TV shows have trained people to spew.

The subject before us: Program by the lefty CA Govt. Result: Automatic opposition from the right without a single synapse firing. Not all govt is good, but not all govt is bad either. Unfortunately fewer and fewer people believe that there is any good in govt, or put any thought into what is in front of them anymore..... instead they just spew the same old tired, programmed crap. I don't believe it is a question of intelligence that people do this, so I'm not questioning that. More so, I think it's a product of being immersed in an environment where many people are constantly being subjected to polarizing programming (Resistance is futile?)

So you don't watch Fox or listen to Rush or the (now defunct?) Air America - It's not just all about you and the handful of people you know. This slanted, unbalanced crap is is taken in hook line and sinker by the zombie millions, and it goes hand in hand with the ranting opposition that we see everywhere today. 


I realize now that I should have passed on this thread    because nothing good ever comes of engaging in these conversations, but now your lambasting me as a "socialist sheeple" has peaked my curiosity, so I am driven to ask: Don't you collect your paycheck from the left wing socialist govt you loath? Perhaps you are even a socialist organized labor member? How can you bear to be a party to it all?     

[bull]

My mistake, but at the same time you might be taking too much credit. You're right that I don't know much about the media entities you mentioned in your post because I really don't care to indulge. But I was not necessarily pointing the finger at you as much as the general mentality that people cannot think for themselves about political issues.

How is this not "about me and the handful of people I know" when the entire nation consists of millions of individuals and their handfuls of friends? Can you paint with such a broad brush? There is plenty of evidence to support your theory but at the same time there are too many variations of opinion out there for it to be all-encompassing.

Not sure what the deal is with your last paragraph. What do you want, I've gotta feed my family don't I? Does everyone out there love their job but me? I'm just happy to have one.

[Tilar]

As a born & raised Californian I & most people with any common sense, just ignore the tree hugging lib-tards & all there stupid ridiculous suggestions... It's not Californians, that's the problem, it's the socialists politicians...

Somebody has to vote them in... or out depending on how you look at it.

[Todd Wilson]

That oil check web site doesnt go back far enough so I guess I will just have to keep thinking for myself and change the oil when I think its time...............


Todd

[The70RT]

Another worthless thread 

[billssuperbird]

 

[John_Kunkel]

Somebody has to vote them in... or out depending on how you look at it.

And, perhaps, the reason those dildos get voted in is because the alternative is worse.

[Brads70]

As a born & raised Californian I & most people with any common sense, just ignore the tree hugging lib-tards & all there stupid ridiculous suggestions... It's not Californians, that's the problem, it's the socialists politicians...

As a Canadian, I agree and share your pain. It's simply what happens when left wing, tree hugging pussies infiltrate government and try to force their agenda on everyone. I'm sure most Californians are of a normal mindset and can think for themselves. We here in Canada finally have a good government although I'm sure it is to late to undo decades of damage done by the lefties. I do change the oil with synthetic as little as possible on my new diesel Mercedes but, my Charger will get it's oil change whenever I feel it's needed. Now if only we can replace our provincial government.

  you must live in Ontario too! 

[404NOTFOUND]

  Quote: you must live in Ontario too!


You guessed it. Home of Dalton ("Today we are introducing legislation") McGuinty. Hopefully, we will get a good provincial government some day. I don't want to change the world, I just want to change my oil.

[Budnicks]

As a born & raised Californian I & most people with any common sense, just ignore the tree hugging lib-tards & all there stupid ridiculous suggestions... It's not Californians, that's the problem, it's the socialists politicians...

As a Canadian, I agree and share your pain. It's simply what happens when left wing, tree hugging pussies infiltrate government and try to force their agenda on everyone. I'm sure most Californians are of a normal mindset and can think for themselves. We here in Canada finally have a good government although I'm sure it is to late to undo decades of damage done by the lefties. I do change the oil with synthetic as little as possible on my new diesel Mercedes but, my Charger will get it's oil change whenever I feel it's needed. Now if only we can replace our provincial government.

Thanks at least some else sees it like i do... It's just LA & SF, Nancey Poleosy, Barbra Boxer, Diane Fienstien {Spellings ?},some of Sacramento that really mess up the rest of the state... It's too bad 15%-20% of the land mass has most of the population 20+million {38 million total}, very socialist liberal views, lots of welfare & social programs, lots of homeless, lots of panhandlers, lots of gays, lots of minorities, lots of trailer trash too & both are considered sanctuary cities, they don't adhere to many federal or state laws, concerning immigration or drugs, welfare etc., that no were near represents the true feelings, of the rest of the great people that live in this once fine state of California... We still do have some of the best weather in the country though, except maybe Hawaii... Oh well sorry for the rant...  I change my oil less often more like 7500 miles, because I use synthetics, they last much longer, but much more expensive too, there are some that recommend ever 10K miles, I do change the filters every 3K-5K, depending on usage... I really hate some of the politicians that think they can dictate what your maintenance schedule on your car can or should be, They should just stay out of our personal choices & pocketbooks, do the damn job they were voted in to do or should be voted out period... 

[Budnicks]

So Communist California is at it again, telling drivers when to change their oil now.
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/driving-green-means-not-changing-your-oil-until-you-need-to.html
What's next? Wipe with your hand to save toiled paper, maybe recycle toilet water and use it to cook and for drinking?  

I don't see a problem here? There is no legislation, and there doesn't seem to be any indication of enforcement. All I see is taxpayer's money spent on recommending the curbing of personal choice.  

The problem here is, in my opinion when this stuff get down on paper as just suggestions or it's a state sponsored information, it doesn't usually take too long before, some big govt. socialist libtard group or global warming or green lobbyists, tries to make it into law for everyone...

[mauve66]

that is the point right there, some one getting paid to make things better wasted the time and money in investigate the subject and gather all the data (erroneous data at that) and then paid to have a web site put up and maintained to tell someone what to do with their own personal vehicle

kinda like a city council hiring a consulting company for $75K to find ways to REDUCE costs in government, wake up and do your own damn job at reducing costs instead of appointing a "blue ribbon panel to investigate and advise and spend over a year time frame when they could of been doing something usefull

[Tilar]

Somebody has to vote them in... or out depending on how you look at it.

And, perhaps, the reason those dildos get voted in is because the alternative is worse.

Actually, I think you're wrong, It's because those dildos including the unions have robbed enough money from the taxpayers that they can afford to spend more on deceptive advertising. Just look at Issue 2 in Ohio this last round... The unions spent 30 million dollars on scare tactic advertising and it went down. After all they were the only ones that were going to lose out if it stayed law.  Normal everyday taxpayers don't have a chance.

[Silver R/T]

So Communist California is at it again, telling drivers when to change their oil now.
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/driving-green-means-not-changing-your-oil-until-you-need-to.html
What's next? Wipe with your hand to save toiled paper, maybe recycle toilet water and use it to cook and for drinking? 

I don't see a problem here? There is no legislation, and there doesn't seem to be any indication of enforcement. All I see is taxpayer's money spent on recommending the curbing of personal choice. 

The problem here is, in my opinion when this stuff get down on paper as just suggestions or it's a state sponsored information, it doesn't usually take too long before, some big govt. socialist libtard group or global warming or green lobbyists, tries to make it into law for everyone...

So true, someone got my point

[Ponch ®]

So Communist California is at it again, telling drivers when to change their oil now.
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/driving-green-means-not-changing-your-oil-until-you-need-to.html
What's next? Wipe with your hand to save toiled paper, maybe recycle toilet water and use it to cook and for drinking? 

I don't see a problem here? There is no legislation, and there doesn't seem to be any indication of enforcement. All I see is taxpayer's money spent on recommending the curbing of personal choice. 

The problem here is, in my opinion when this stuff get down on paper as just suggestions or it's a state sponsored information, it doesn't usually take too long before, some big govt. socialist libtard group or global warming or green lobbyists, tries to make it into law for everyone...

So true, someone got my point

No, your point was that this was some type of liberal neo marxist Hugo Chavez like government conspiracy to control our lives. Its not. Is it a waste of money? Probably.

The irony is that a lot of these "its only a matter of time before they take over and tell you how to run your life" posts come from people that tend to be ideologically aligned with those who try to tell you who you can f--ck, what is decent or not decent to watch on tv, and which God you should pray to.

[Ghoste]

I can feel it, I can feel it...

[bull]

The irony is that a lot of these "its only a matter of time before they take over and tell you how to run your life" posts come from people that tend to be ideologically aligned with those who try to tell you who you can f--ck, what is decent or not decent to watch on tv, and which God you should pray to.

Oh, come on. Are you trying to say moral zealots are barking orders from only one side of the ideological fence?  That's hilarious. I'll try to remember that the next time a guy like Alec Baldwin is doing one of his red-faced, venom-spitting rants.

[Ponch ®]

The irony is that a lot of these "its only a matter of time before they take over and tell you how to run your life" posts come from people that tend to be ideologically aligned with those who try to tell you who you can f--ck, what is decent or not decent to watch on tv, and which God you should pray to.

Oh, come on. Are you trying to say moral zealots are barking orders from only one side of the ideological fence?  That's hilarious. I'll try to remember that the next time a guy like Alec Baldwin is doing one of his red-faced, venom-spitting rants.

Nope...BOTH sides are equally zealous. Some of us DO see through that, others (like Silver) seem to think only the other side does it.

[Silver R/T]

There's only one RIGHT and only one WRONG, you can't be in the middle Ponch.

[aussiemuscle]

hmm, i would have thought the problem would be people not changing their oil enough, rather than too often. most 'average' drivers i know don't maintain their vehicles and let them blow heavy smoke and other bad engine problems that'd be fixed with regular servicing.

[Silver R/T]

hmm, i would have thought the problem would be people not changing their oil enough, rather than too often. most 'average' drivers i know don't maintain their vehicles and let them blow heavy smoke and other bad engine problems that'd be fixed with regular servicing.

That is so true, however greenies don't see that as a problem. They also totally ignore problem where all the old batteries go from econoboxes they want us to drive. Also energy that needs to be made to charge those batteries. I already pay too much for my energy each month (especially during winter) I'd hate to imagine if I had to charge one of those zip zap cars. I'd pay more for energy than what I'd save on gas.

[TK73]

I can feel it, I can feel it...

That only happens on this site when a liberal progressive commie union bureaucrat bastard (like me) expresses an opinion that is not in line with the nazi republitard whacko regressive wingnuts (Like Silver) agenda... otherwise it just keeps going...


Guess the "moderators discretion" is only implemented when a mod is offended:
"Please remember: this is the place to discuss Chargers - NOT the place to discuss politics. Political posts will be locked or deleted at the Moderator's discretion."

This entire thread is a waste of time brought on by a member that has not learned to read beyond the headline or think before reacting based on his programming...

[TK73]

There's only one RIGHT and only one WRONG, you can't be in the middle Ponch.

Well, Ponch is Correct and you are Way the F Off...

Ponch has an IQ above his body temperature and the life experience which allows him to see the nuances and "shades of grey" in this world and those less capable only believe in Right and Wrong...

Get out of Spokane and see what the world really is.

[TheGhost]

Somebody has to vote them in... or out depending on how you look at it.

And, perhaps, the reason those dildos get voted in is because the alternative is worse.

Don't you know? Every election is between a douche and a turd, as those are the only kinds of people who can suck up enough to make it that far in politics.  We haven't had a true leader in my lifetime.

[Mike DC]

                          
       

[mauve66]

i've been waiting for them to move this to the politics section