70 Coronet for sale for bird clone

[PocketThunder]

Since you guys missed the coronet in Houston a month ago.  There is a guy on here parting out a 70 Coronet.  Gary Mendy is his name.  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,85655.0.html

[nascarxx29]

Gary Mendy out of Ohio good guy.Check out dash appears to have AM-8 track

[69bronzeT5]

Tons of stuff I could use off that Coronet for mine. Way out of my price range though.

[F8-4life]

Sorry to say but thats just LAME parting out such a rarity.

[Highbanked Hauler]

Sorry to say but thats just LAME parting out such a rarity.

its a two edged sword , I am sure it could be rebuilt but at what cost.. Like just the fender alone if you are paying to have it done.

[pettybird]

it's a cool car to a Coronet junkie, but coronet junkies are dirt poor and cheap.

[nvrbdn]

and then there comes a time when no one wants to buy it, and you dont want to give it away knowing the parts can bring a decent price. how long do we expect someone to hold onto a car no one wants to buy just to keep from ending its life?

[70Sbird]

and then there comes a time when no one wants to buy it, and you dont want to give it away knowing the parts can bring a decent price. how long do we expect someone to hold onto a car no one wants to buy just to keep from ending its life?

Not all cars can be (or should be) saved.
But who am I to talk, I cut up more A bodies in the 80's for parts that were in better shape than some of the 5K projects for sale today.

This particular Coronet would need LOTS of help to come back from the dead and probably never be worth the cost. But again, who knows 20 years from now it may be a $20K builder, but someone would have to buy it and hold onto it for that time, keep all of the parts together with the car and not let it deteriorate any further
That car would be an awesome ride though, 383 4-speed, good color, nice interior package and a white top!

[held1823]

it's a cool car to a Coronet junkie, but coronet junkies are dirt poor and cheap.

i'm living proof, being both dirt poor and cheap.

the hood options and folding top available on a coronet, don't even exist for a charger. i'd choose those over a non aero charger, hands down.

[nvrbdn]

man, that is a beautiful rt. 

[held1823]

i even like coronets in top-on/hood-off form. not sure who owns this local car, but more than once i've seen it water injected, while being driven in the rain.

i now return you to your regularly scheduled charger programming...

[moparstuart]

 

[moparstuart]

my buddy mikes car 

[F8-4life]

You guys make some good points. I don't know about ya'll but even if I were broke I would still hold onto that car and store it for years just for preservation...as its such a rare and neat ride. This is just a humble opinion and I'm not trying to start anything but that car lived and survived 42 years to be cut up for quick cash. Seems pretty lame to me and it also says the owner doesn't appreciate the car for what it is.

[held1823]

is the orange one a real r/t, or a clone?

nothing to do with the first question, but his looks to have a body color piece between the grilles. i've seen R/T's with both body color and chrome there, and wonder what was the distinction on how the various models came? is there an option code for a car done one way or the other?

i don't recall seeing any (original) super bee with just the chrome there, although, if my memory serves me, my fc7 bee did have the chrome piece underneath a painted, bolt-on plate. that seems odd in retrospect, so now my curiousity makes me wonder which models came which way.

[pettybird]

it's a cool car to a Coronet junkie, but coronet junkies are dirt poor and cheap.

i'm living proof, being both dirt poor and cheap.

the hood options and folding top available on a coronet, don't even exist for a charger. i'd choose those over a non aero charger, hands down.

I think the former Otis Chandler Hemi R/T car doesn't quite fit my description...  I really don't like the double-grille front but I wouldn't kick that car out of the yard.

[70Sbird]

You guys make some good points. I don't know about ya'll but even if I were broke I would still hold onto that car and store it for years just for preservation...as its such a rare and neat ride. This is just a humble opinion and I'm not trying to start anything but that car lived and survived 42 years to be cut up for quick cash. Seems pretty lame to me and it also says the owner doesn't appreciate the car for what it is.

F8-4life,
I do agree with you line of thought and I don't think anyone in this hobby wants to see an old car simply cut up for a quick buck. It would be a loss for sure to part it out, since they aren't making any more, and the number grows fewer every day. However, If I would have kept every car I could have saved, I would have 10 acres of cars rusting away and everyone harassing me for not giving them away to someone who would take better care of them. The bottom line is that to "keep" this one requires a lot of space, it is basically immobile and will continue to deteriorate at an accelerating rate if left outside in the elements.
Unfortunately the seller has been trying to sell the car for at least a couple of months in the $5K range with no takers, and has the knowledge that some percentage of the parts could be sold off of the car for more than his asking price. So, if he doesn't have infinite storage at his disposal I really don't see many options. And, once the more valuable parts start disappearing the remaining hulk and "nick knacks" will take increasingly more time and effort to sell, and the total car will be worth even less as this process continues until simply scrapping the remains is the only option.
Parting out a complete car down to the shell is a long, PITA process and I hate to see cars go like this but it's simply a fact of economics and the state of the hobby at this time.
My wife would like to save every stray animal at the shelter as well, but it just isn't feasible

[held1823]

I think the former Otis Chandler Hemi R/T car doesn't quite fit my description...  I really don't like the double-grille front but I wouldn't kick that car out of the yard.

lol. i started to just post the photo, and ask if a pig wearing lipstick is still just a pig. that car is one of just two or three made, if i recall?

[F8-4life]

Yea I understand. Maybe I'm a fool but I saved a og paint '68 coronet 500 from being parted and its missing the engine/trans and its just a common 383 auto car. So to see this chopped up hurts a bit.

[pettybird]

I think the former Otis Chandler Hemi R/T car doesn't quite fit my description...  I really don't like the double-grille front but I wouldn't kick that car out of the yard.

lol. i started to just post the photo, and ask if a pig wearing lipstick is still just a pig. that car is one of just two or three made, if i recall?

yeah it's stupid rare.  3-4 maybe?   And, an R in the VIN suuuuuure is a lot of lipstick 

[pettybird]

is the orange one a real r/t, or a clone?

nothing to do with the first question, but his looks to have a body color piece between the grilles. i've seen R/T's with both body color and chrome there, and wonder what was the distinction on how the various models came? is there an option code for a car done one way or the other?

It was optional on a 'bee, and should be standard on the R/T and 500.  You could order a front grille decor package that had the chromed lower bumper plate, the valance panel chrome and the bumperettes.  It's coded on the build sheet but I don't remember what it is now...

[nascarxx29]

I still have my 70 burnt orange on burnt orange Coronet 383 4 bl 500 but have owned 70 RT and Super Bee 4 doors station wagons that paint panel between the bumper is a riveted on metal cover plate .Remove the rivets and its chrome underneath Its a shame to see a 70 Coronet get crushed or parted

My old RT loaded with many optionsAC PS PW 6 way seats etc 1 of 2 known

[pettybird]

My old RT loaded with many optionsAC PS PW 6 way seats etc 1 of 2 known

and now your current one is loaded with magazines and garbage bags of die casts!

[moparstuart]

is the orange one a real r/t, or a clone?

nothing to do with the first question, but his looks to have a body color piece between the grilles. i've seen R/T's with both body color and chrome there, and wonder what was the distinction on how the various models came? is there an option code for a car done one way or the other?

i don't recall seeing any (original) super bee with just the chrome there, although, if my memory serves me, my fc7 bee did have the chrome piece underneath a painted, bolt-on plate. that seems odd in retrospect, so now my curiousity makes me wonder which models came which way.

it was a rust bucket basket case 500  , so yes a clone  now has a bullet proof six pak motor and  tremec manual trans . He drives it everywhere and on all the power tours .  

  I have located a 500 convertible that is also a basket case and for sale  , It will one day become a one of none superbee convertible   c stripe and all .  I love this body style and the c stripe !!!!!!!  

[nascarxx29]

[pettybird]

I'm telling you...I see those cars and ALL I think is "donor sheetmetal."

[nascarxx29]

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Guy near me I sold parts to was building a 70 hemi super bee conv 2007 .Havent seen the finished version

[nascarxx29]

More Donor Sheetmetal
Clean black 4 Dr I bought for Parts 

[moparstuart]

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Guy near me I sold parts to was building a 70 hemi super bee conv 2007 .Havent seen the finished version

  love it   another one the factory should have built 

[pettybird]

More Donor Sheetmetal
Clean black 4 Dr I bought for Parts 

THAT one needs to be turned into a Nevada State Police car like the ones in Vanishing Point.

[held1823]

i'm starting to get my feelings hurt by this thread. not from what's being said, but from missing my first car.

[F8-4life]

I agree that black 4-door is awesome and would make a great driver.

[PocketThunder]

I agree that black 4-door is awesome and would make a great driver.

Ya buddy!      

[pettybird]

i'm starting to get my feelings hurt by this thread. not from what's being said, but from missing my first car.

my first car was an '85 Ford Tempo.  I'm, like, bulletproof!  I bought it for $150 and sold it two years later for $60, and the guy made me deliver it.  I was afraid it would break down on the way over and I'd be out the sixty bucks 

[nvrbdn]

thats funny, been in that boat before.

[moparstuart]

i'm starting to get my feelings hurt by this thread. not from what's being said, but from missing my first car.

my first car was an '85 Ford Tempo.  I'm, like, bulletproof!  I bought it for $150 and sold it two years later for $60, and the guy made me deliver it.  I was afraid it would break down on the way over and I'd be out the sixty bucks 

[moparstuart]

i'm starting to get my feelings hurt by this thread. not from what's being said, but from missing my first car.

[nascarxx29]

More Donor Sheetmetal
Clean black 4 Dr I bought for Parts 

THAT one needs to be turned into a Nevada State Police car like the ones in Vanishing Point.

Places like this use old cars for movies

http://www.studiopicturevehicles.com/

[superbirdtom]

When I lived in L.A.  studio picture vehicles was right next door to my aircraft paint hanger on the executive side of the Burbank airport.. I would drive past it an there would be a whole load of cop cars . polaras furys satellites etc .All shined up and badged on a car hauler.  A week later it would be back with all of them smashed to bits! this went on and on for years. so studio picture vehicles is responsible for a lot of wrecked mopars.  Then just a mile away was the shop where all the dukes of hazard cars were built. I still got pics of that place somewhere. many chargers in every state of disrepair.  They had a constant ad in the paper for 68 through 70  chargers wanted any condition.

  back to the coronet, I would never part that car out ,if he saves it Ill send him a hood. thats a great car with a 4 speed. my brother still has his 70 bee from high school ,bought in 1973. we painted it metalflake lime green, its a 383 ram air  factory 4 speed console bucket seat orange c stripe car.  its close to a basket case but can be saved, too much sentimental value .last seeing the street in 1978.If I had the money id buy it in a second. I stripped out a 6 pack bee and still have the disc brakes- doors- hood- tranny- dash with 4 way speaker and 8 track and vin. what a great clone that would make. my brother is builing an aircraft hangar in concrete washington and the bee and big block 70 cuda convert will be sent down this summer and the restorations will start. I have 7 coronet hoods .love these cars.    one question for anybody.  Did the 70 r/t coronets have honeycomb grilles?

[Arnie Cunningham]

When I was very young, the angry old neighbor lady next door drove a 70 coronet 4 door with a 383 and it was factory plum crazy.  The car really fit her lol.

[F8-4life]

You know I've always wondered how many oddball cars got high-impact colors in 1970. Like 4 door satellites and coronets and wagons and such. They've got to be pretty rare.

[Dave Kanofsky]

  one question for anybody.  Did the 70 r/t coronets have honeycomb grilles?

I've never seen a honeycomb grille in any flavor of '70 Coronet. 
All of the grilles I have seen have the vertical bars. 
Some of the them have the vertical bars blacked out. 
AFAIK, all of them had the surrounding shell painted argent.

[nascarxx29]

Honeycomb Grilles 70 Sport Satellite or 70 GTX.

[moparstuart]

 

[Aero426]

It would be a good donor for this...  

[held1823]

what happened to the stripes in stuart's last photo? did they get drunk and confuse the front fenders for the quarter panels?

[moparstuart]

what happened to the stripes in stuart's last photo? did they get drunk and confuse the front fenders for the quarter panels?

thats what i really like about that one is the reverse c on the fender also       One mean  looking bee   that race car too doug   

[held1823]

this one is already the right color...

[moparstuart]

woody

[Mopurr]

It would be a good donor for this...  

And all the $$$$$ went to this........    so the reskin has to wait and wait and wait.

Waaaaaahhhhhhh, I want the Super Bee body and 14 paint job

[pettybird]

Was that car campaigned out of Muncie?  That's where I was born!

[Aero426]

The Coronet was probably run out of Les Snow's shop in Illinois.  The Pierce Brothers owned a number of different salvage yards and sponsored cars for a long time.    A lot of name drivers ran for them over the years,  Ramo, Roger McCluskey, Glotzbach, Larry Moore and Les.   

You will still see ads for Hartley Truck Parts and GW Pierce Auto Parts along I-70 east of Indianapolis.   It is a big operation. 

[Old Moparz]

I used to have a 4 door, '70 Coronet Deluxe with a slant 6, AM radio & a heater. Paid $100 for it, drove it for almost a year, then traded it for a set of chrome magnum wheels & $75 cash. Of course I wish I saved it for the nose.

[held1823]

Was that car campaigned out of Muncie?  That's where I was born!

small world. muncie is 15 minutes from here.

The Coronet was probably run out of Les Snow's shop in Illinois.  The Pierce Brothers owned a number of different salvage yards and sponsored cars for a long time.    A lot of name drivers ran for them over the years,  Ramo, Roger McCluskey, Glotzbach, Larry Moore and Les.
You will still see ads for Hartley Truck Parts and GW Pierce Auto Parts along I-70 east of Indianapolis.   It is a big operation.

even smaller world. the truck yard is just south of town, and the main pierce yard a few miles farther down the same road in dunreith. the main location is late model vehicles, while the smaller yard here in town is for the older ones. sadly, all of the 1960s/70s stuff is long gone from there.

[69 DAYTONA]

...99% sure my old friend Bill Baker built that Hartley car and/or engine...he was Pierces main race guy at that point in time

[held1823]

...99% sure my old friend Bill Baker built that Hartley car and/or engine...he was Pierces main race guy at that point in time

bill is who put together my super bee, seen earlier in this thread. i can easily recall the grin on his face, the first time we took it down the road. the guy was an incredible mechanic, as that engine was indestructible. Lord knows i tried to grenade it, more than once...

[Mopurr]

So is it possible to connect up with your friend Bill?

[held1823]

unless larry is referring to a second bill baker that would have been from this area,  bill passed away several years ago.

in hindsight, i should have let him answer your question...

[69 DAYTONA]

So is it possible to connect up with your friend Bill?

....sorry, my old buddy passed away several years ago

...he built the engine in my first '69 Daytona, never drove another MOPAR like it...he was the best engine builder I ever knew...Bill worked for the Pierce Brothers for a few years, built their NASCAR racer(special exhibit at Carlisle a couple of years ago), built his own cars for the local tracks etc...above all, he was about the best buddy I ever had

PS...names on the car are "driver Roger McClusky" and "mechanic Bill Baker"

[Mopurr]

sorry to hear your friend has passed.  sounds like a really nice & cool guy.

neat old race pictures too.

Do you know any other guys that may have worked on the cars there?  Or would have any old pictures of the cars?

[69 DAYTONA]

...I know Doyle Onkst worked on the cars (chassis I think), his name is on the 14 Charger...and Mel Beck painted some of them...unfortunately, they are all deceased

[69 DAYTONA]

another shot.......

[held1823]

larry, what year was that photo of bill taken? i doubt mt. lawn has changed much since then. the light pole even looked the same the last time i was there. i'll have to show that photo to dad, since he knew bill pretty well.

i recall being out at bill's house while he worked on the bee, and slobbering all over myself at the three or four complete hemis sitting under the workbench. i need to repeat that slobbering sometime soon, at the 'home.

[69 DAYTONA]

...I would guess about 1970-1

...HEMI engines, HEMI parts layin' everywhere

[held1823]

check this out, in regards to the #14 car. is it the same one?

http://www.hodgerestorations.com/Race%20Car%20Restoration.html

[Aero426]

The car restored by Le Hodge it is said to be the '74 Pierce Brothers Charger.     The one with the '72 quarter window was another one of their cars at the same time.  

The Pierce car was always fast, but when Larry Moore got in it, it was BAD fast.    The value of the wing car on a flat mile like Milwaukee has been debated.    Bobby Unser set the track record in 1972 in the Nichels #5 Superbird at like 33.07 seconds.    That record stood for FOUR years until Larry Moore broke it in the Pierce car.    It was the first stock car to turn a lap in the 32's at Milwaukee.    They had their mojo workin'.

[held1823]

thanks for the history and info. after i posted that link here, i remembered the other photo of the (older) pierce car was posted in the dave witcomb daytona thread. it wasn't until i "rediscovered" that photo that i even realized this body was a later model.

does the hodge car have a nichels connection? the track record you mention hints at it having some big league stuff under the sheet metal. it's amazing i grew up in the same area the pierces' are from, and never realized just how well known and high tech their cars were.

[Aero426]

Almost every Chrysler race car competing in a major stock car series at that time was "Nichels built".  They had the assembly line.   They were the factory connection for parts.  They had the jigs and fixtures to perform a fast repair on a heavy hit.   Most cars were turn key complete and sent to the individual teams for their own touches.   Some cars could be sent off in a semi-complete fashion if desired.    Petty often built his own cars as the exception.

[superbirdtom]

  one question for anybody.  Did the 70 r/t coronets have honeycomb grilles?

I've never seen a honeycomb grille in any flavor of '70 Coronet. 
All of the grilles I have seen have the vertical bars. 
Some of the them have the vertical bars blacked out. 
AFAIK, all of them had the surrounding shell painted argent.  -----

  I MUST BE THINKING OF THE 70 GTX  THAT HAD THE HONEYCOMB GRILLE   THANKS  ARNIE

[mopar_man]

What would 50k buy in an 70 R/T or a Bee ? Trying to get a feel for whats out there .

[oldcarnut]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-DODGE-CORONET-RT-CONV-440-6-PACK-GREEN-WHITE-SCAT-PAC-LIKE-NEW-COND-/280815185750?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4161e3af56
Looks like it so far.  Check out others on there as they come up to get a better idea