Flat/Matte Black Paintjob Questions & Advice - Malibu is BLACKED OUT!!

[bill440rt]

OK, car has been primed, & guide-coated. I was really hoping to use Evercoat's Uro-Fill, but the jobber sold him some Nason 2K. It worked OK, not as good as the Uro-fill, but I think it'll do the job. Everything was given 3 coats except the roof which was given 2. The roof didn't need any work.

I'm meeting with a paint rep on Tuesday to discuss PPG, & other options. We'll start blocking & jambing it out soon.

[jaak]

Nice Work, Bill  Doesn't bother me that its a Chevy.... I love looking at bodywork/paint pics no matter what type of vehicle it is.

Thanks for sharing,
Jason

[squeakfinder]

     It doe's look really straight.   

[tan top]

    

[bill440rt]

Well, we finally got the Malibu painted last weekend now that winter is behind us.
I jambed it out for him the previous weekend. We decided to use PPG. Paint process consisted of black DP primer mixed as a sealer, black DBU basecoat, and 2060 Flexed-n-Flat clear. I laid out some test panels, one with straight F-n-F clear and the other cocktailed with some 2002 Concept Clear as an eggshell mix. Straight F-n-F clear is VERY flat, no gloss at all. The eggshell mix was a VERY nice satin finish, so my friend decided on that. It's a weird mix, ratio is 9.5-parts F-n-F to 1-part 2002 clear, then reduced & hardener added.

I've never shot an overall flat job before, so I can say now that the base/clear was totally the right way to go. This is AWESOME stuff! 
VERY easy to use to achieve a uniform finish. Just had to watch to make sure each batch was mixed exactly, and to lay it on evenly & watch your spray gun overlap. (Brian & Paul, THANKS!!  )

Paint job consisted of one coat of black sealer, two coats of black DBU base, and then two coats of F-n-F clear. Sprayed at 70*, baked for 1/2 hour at 140*. Paint was still a little soft, so we let it dry overnight after the bake cycle.
Here's how it looked in the booth, and then when we pulled it out the next morning. I'll try to get some other pics too when he has it back together.

[bill440rt]

A few more... 

[Dino]

Perfect sheen, good job!   

[Charger-Bodie]

Looks like an NOS Malibu, Or e-coat. Awesome job Bill!

[deanj309]

What would be the cost to have a paint job like that done? And how would it be in the rain?,,,nice job!!!

[jaak]

Nice work Bill 


Jason

[tan top]

   nice 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

I expected nothing less 

Awesome work bud

[69 OUR/TEA]

Looks real nice Bill,great job!!!!!! Was wondering how you were gonna like the 2060,glad to see you like it.

[bill440rt]

Hey guys, thanks!
Paul & Brian, thanks for the tip-off on the 2060. Damn, that is some NICE stuff to use! Hardest part was just dialing in a mix to see what sheen my friend liked. But even that was easy because I used one of PPG's mix ratios so it worked out. Yeah Brian, it DOES kinda look like e-coat, but it's just a tad on the flat side from it.

Chris, maybe this might come in handy for some V21?       

Thanks Jason, TT, & Dino! 

Dean, cost depends on a lot of factors: prep work involved/body work, labor cost/market area, size of the car, etc. Too many factors.
I can say that as far as materials, he purchased 2 quarts of DP primer, 3 quarts of DBU base, and 3 quarts of clear, not to mention the hardeners/reducers to go along with it. Tab on that was about $750 give or take. But, we had 1 quart of DP & 1 quart of base left over so he can return those back. That also doesn't include primers or other misc materials (tape, sandpaper, etc etc etc).
It is a clear just like other modern urethanes just pre-flattened, so it will hold up to the elements best.

[myk]

Good Lord man.  Listening to you guys talk body work 'tech is like listening to people speaking in a different language.  Hats off to all of you, especially you Bill, that's a great looking car...

[BananaDan]

It came out good Bill!  Nice work.

[SRT-440]

Awesome!! Looks great. Now do the same thing with my GN. LOL

[Budnicks]

Looks great, I love the Hot Rod Black look...

[Indygenerallee]

Looks Bitchin' Bill!!!! I likey!!! 

[Cooter]

So, WTF Bill, it looks like it runs deep in 9's @ around 140 Plus...What the hell is in it? SB, BB, LS?

[bill440rt]

So, WTF Bill, it looks like it runs deep in 9's @ around 140 Plus...What the hell is in it? SB, BB, LS?

Hey, Cooter!    (Did they get rid of that ignore feature on here already??)     (Yes, I'm really kidding again!)
See the first post.

I'm helping a neighbor friend of mine paint his '81 Malibu 2-dr hardtop. This is NOT a show car, it is primarily a race car but can be street driven. It's powered by a 454 with nitrous, and it'll run very low-10's in the 1/4. He wants it painted matte black.

454 BBC with nitrous. Low 10-sec car. However, it also has a full interior & that is thru the mufflers, and it is street driven. He is one of the track announcers here at the legendary Old Bridge Raceway Park. He drives it to the track, races it, then drives it home.

Awesome!! Looks great. Now do the same thing with my GN. LOL

You near NJ, SRT??   

He's almost done putting the rest of it back together. Looks really good now with the bumpers, grille, etc back on it. I can try to get some final pics up if any of you guys are interested.

[SRT-440]

Nope...I'm in Arkansas. My cars biggest problem is little dings and dents...looks like the previous owner set the hood on the roof while installing the motor...little dents comparable to hail damage but not random.
The doors also are wavey...ugh...so it needs lotsa love before any paint can go on.

But looks like u did a amazing job making sure this car is nice and straight!

[69finder]

Your 'flat black' paint is better than some people's 'show cars!'  Outstanding work, just goes to show how proper prep makes the best results.

[Cooter]

Hey, Cooter!    (Did they get rid of that ignore feature on here already??)     (Yes, I'm really kidding again!)
See the first post.

Nope, I can still see pictures and from the other responses, your name kept coming up. But, I think I will "allow" you again. Seems time I guess.

[BananaDan]