69 Charger 500's

[69_500]

So far I've done all my records by hand on paper as well. I'm hoping to get more organized here in the future to make it easier at adding new information without having to hand write up a new list. Which isn't so bad if the car is a late VIN but when its an early one that is multiple pages of new writing.

[69_500]

A new update for anyone who really cars. 235 VIN's now in the database. I now have them all listed in a word document, listing VIN's as seen on dash plates, including those that are XS and not XX.

And then I also have them all in a spreadsheet to be able to sort them all by color, engine, and any option that was available. The only thing I don't have them sortable by so far is stripe color. I'll get that going soon though.

[WINGMAN]

   Danny is the Man.

[69_500]

I think I'm going to have to ask Troy for a little assistance on the spreadsheet however. As I'm new to the whole concept, and I want it to be able to total all of the options. So that I can easily do a scroll down and see exactly how many of which way cars were made. I'm still working on it though.

Its coming along definately though. I talked to Dave Patik, and I'm going to be swapping information on these cars with him, to see if his list, and my list match or if we have cars the other hasn't seen. To make a more comprehensive list. Also on fender tag info, and broadcast sheets. So hopefully we can get a larger data base to work from on these cars.

[wingcar builder]

this better come with the chick too!!

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[hemi68charger]

I don't recall any A4 with red interior HEMI 500's around here in the INdy area, but then again I wasn't here in this area all of my life.

I do know of a A4 HEMI 500 with blue interior though.

That one is here in Houston, albeit it's painted B5 now....... Unless, we're talking about wo different A4's... I remember an A4 C500 quarter panel that was cut off a car and for sale many years ago... Sad sight.......

[hemi68charger]

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Interesting that the steelies AREN'T painted body color........

[nascarxx29]

Cliff D 69 500 hemi was the A-4 silver to B5 car I recall in Houston

[hemi68charger]

Cliff ******** 69 500 hemi was the A-4 silver to B5 car I recall in Houston

Yes,, I didn't want to say names since he's a very private person.... Can you edit the reply Dave out of respect to him. He's a friend of mine........

Troy

[Ghoste]

And is it just me, or do those dog dish caps look oddly sized too?

[nascarxx29]

No offense meant Troy hemi 68 charger.Cliff is a ok guy I often seen and met Cliff in the 80-s. when I lived in TX and was in the houston mopar club many events like the one pictured at gulf freeway dodge .And used to often visit fortis international where his cars were along with other cool mopars.I got pictures of..If I recall correctly Allen V had found that silver 69 500 in San Antonio .Another 500 from my houston days .I can think if is John R  R6 red 69 charger 500 AC car.That a friend of mine Randy who also had 2 superbirds found.Wondered where his cars ended up

[nascarxx29]

The other silver 69 500 157499 that was on ebay .Orig Y4 gold AC belonged to a friend of mine

[69_500]

There are other A4 500's out there. There is one in Detroit, Michigan, a Factory HEMI car too. One of the last 500's built.

[nascarxx29]

138602 was a hemi 500 that got daytona parts on it.Was a A4 silver car

[69_500]

Its a factory B5 car though, 138602 is anyways.

[nascarxx29]

Sorry I thought it was silver going by the bottom of page description   

[69_500]

I believe it was painted A4 silver when a Mr. Underwood owned the car. However then again I've also been told it has always been the B5 blue. I know the fender tag says B5, and that the car is B5 now. Tag is legit too by the way. Its actually one of the earliest VIN's to a 500, as far as batches of cars goes.

[nascarxx29]

Can you colaberate on the statement that it was used a 1/4 pace car.or is it a typo and should have been 1/4 race car as a daytona

[69_500]

I can colaborate that it was used as a Pace car, which is why it origionally received the nose cone, wing, and front fenders hence making it into a cloned Daytona. I don't know about the size of the race track. The current owner of the car has mentioned having some photo's of it pacing laps at the track.

This car has been for sale lately, as its 2 tone blue currently, still wearing the wing and nose cone. Very low mileage on the car as well, but doesn't have a numbers matching engine. Which from what I've gaterhed was gone before the days of being a pace vehicle.

[69_500]

Does anyone happen to have a photo of the fender tag for car 156008?

[69_500]

Been doing a lot of little searching and counting over the past few weeks on my spreadsheet on Charger 500's. I have been told that the figure that is going around of Charger 500's is 575-580 and that it is being quoted by a supposed GURU. I am not sure on how he figures this number though.

I do know that in 1991 he was saying that there were 223 known 500's, but that he had it figured at 443 being produced. The way figured was to take the known VIN's and then fill in the gaps in the sequences and then add those gaps to the known number and he was coming up with 443.

So by using this same thinking I just went through my spreadsheet and by taking into account that I know of 241 VIN's to Charger 500's. If you fill in all of those gaps you would come up with 631. Now the reason the number shoots up so high is that there are 3 really big gaps in numbers, as in one gap of 33 digits, another of 26, and another of 51. If you take those away you would come up with 521. Which I still think is too high.

Does anyone else have any other threories? I haven't taken the time to study the VIN's to Daytona's as closely to see if there are any gaps in the sequences of if they really followed a tried and true 10-15 car batches.

[69_500]

Side note I have also recently came into possession of a letter that is written by Chrysler Corp from March 8, 1971 that says that they built 548 Charger 500's for the 1969 year. Their records show the break down to be 15 charger 500's with 4 speed and a HEMI (which we know isn't true), and that there was 17 HEMI 500's with AT transmissions (which we also know isn't true). The letter also breaks down 440's as 163 4 speed cars (I haven't found but 26), and the AT's are listed as being 353 cars (which haven't even seen anywhere near that many, I think my count is around 90 or so).

Also had the discussion with Gene over at the Monster Mopar about the total number of HEMI Chargers produced, and I'm think that the number of 462 or whatever it is right, but that it shouldn't include the HEMI 500's or Daytona's. What is anyone else's idea on that one? If it did include them, that would only leave roughly 280-290 total HEMI Charger R/T's for 1969, does anyone else think that this number is way too low? I'm just going by impression here, but at every major Mopar show I attend there is at least 1 HEMI Charger R/T that is a 69 car. However in this year I've seen 4 HEMI 500's at shows this whole year, and and that takes into account that there was 3 of them at Carlisle due to the AERO section display.

[Ghoste]

Well, it doesn't mean squat, but my personal observation is that I always see more 69 Hemi RT's at major shows than I do 500's of ANY powertrain. 

[hemi68charger]

Well, it doesn't mean squat, but my personal observation is that I always see more 69 Hemi RT's at major shows than I do 500's of ANY powertrain. 

True enough... The closet I've seen to the same amount was a Charger Meet a few years ago in which there was my C500 and another C500-hemi car... There were still more Hemi Charger R/T's from '66 to '69... This past year, I again was the only C500 out of a handfull or more of Hemi Chargers..

[69_500]

I wasn't meaning any year HEMI Charger, I was just narrowing that down to HEMI 69 Charger R/T's at major shows. I really can't think of a single larger Mopar show over the past 4 years where there wasn't at least 1 HEMI R/T 69 in attendance.