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Whats the best four speed to use

Started by mopar0166, December 12, 2011, 08:59:25 AM

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mopar0166

I wanted to know as i look into the idea again of putting a manual transmission into my charger.   The engine is a 68 440 bored 30 over with edlebrck head etc etc should put out in the low 500's for power.  What do i neeed for the best street performance and also an occasion spirited drive down the quarter mile? 

As far as the converision i listed that question last year and now have a great list of parts to get but need to know the best 4 speed to locate

like years, gears ranges spline etc

thanks in advance.

Chryco Psycho

Any of the 833s will take what you want to do , the gear ranges are mostly similar with 2.6 1st gear & 1:1 4th gear . the 18 spline are slightly tougher but always more expensive to buy .  The exceptions to this are the 833 OD with 3 rd being 1:1 & 4th is .71 , all of the OD version are 23 spline but allow the use of lower rear gears & still be able to run on the highway easily .
Passon has 2 new offerings , a 18 spline OD 4 spd either in a ne case or you can fit the gearset to your case & a new 5 spd OD

Highbanked Hauler

would you still use an 833 for SCCA type racing ?
69 Charger 500, original owner  
68 Charger former parts car in process of rebuilding
92 Cummins Turbo Diesel
04 PT Cruiser

Cooter

The A833 was good enough for "The Boss" Ronnie Sox, so it's good enough for me.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Rolling_Thunder

Quote from: Cooter on December 16, 2011, 07:43:11 AM
The A833 was good enough for "The Boss" Ronnie Sox, so it's good enough for me.

Didnt Ronnie Sox use a Ford Toploader in his Cuda?
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

Chryco Psycho

Uhh NO !!
Jenkins used an 833 in his chevies though

Cooter

Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on December 17, 2011, 03:15:08 PM
Quote from: Cooter on December 16, 2011, 07:43:11 AM
The A833 was good enough for "The Boss" Ronnie Sox, so it's good enough for me.

Didnt Ronnie Sox use a Ford Toploader in his Cuda?

Um...No...See most people don't reallize The Ford Top loader was offered in two flavors like the 833. A "Big Block" and a "Small Block" version. The later being the weaker mainshaft that we'd snap like a twig on the Mustang when on Slicks. Bout the only Ford I know of that Ronnie Sox drove would be the 1964 Mercury Comet and after 1965, Sox and Martin were Chrysler.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

elacruze

Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on December 15, 2011, 10:14:28 PM
would you still use an 833 for SCCA type racing ?

If an OEM trans was mandated, yes and with the T/A close ratios.
1968 505" EFI 4-speed
1968 D200 Camper Special, 318/2bbl/4spd/4.10
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Torque converters are for construction equipment.

Rolling_Thunder

Quote from: Cooter on December 18, 2011, 01:51:57 AM
Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on December 17, 2011, 03:15:08 PM
Quote from: Cooter on December 16, 2011, 07:43:11 AM
The A833 was good enough for "The Boss" Ronnie Sox, so it's good enough for me.

Didnt Ronnie Sox use a Ford Toploader in his Cuda?

Um...No...See most people don't reallize The Ford Top loader was offered in two flavors like the 833. A "Big Block" and a "Small Block" version. The later being the weaker mainshaft that we'd snap like a twig on the Mustang when on Slicks. Bout the only Ford I know of that Ronnie Sox drove would be the 1964 Mercury Comet and after 1965, Sox and Martin were Chrysler.

I could swear I read an article somewhere stating that he used ford Toploaders in his cars...         not saying you're wrong or that I'm right - just saying I remember reading that somewhere...    I'll look for the article.
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip